NCIS Review: Medal of Honor and a Ferrari Comments (Page 3)
64 Comments
Dani
November 1st, 2012 4:26 PM
@Kath; I agree with you and Nat - the case WAS the weakest part. I got distracted while watching it -it did not keep my attention. Also I disagree with Mel. Sorry Mel, but if you've been paying attn since "S5", you should know that Tony has actually SHARED the focus with literally EVERY major cast member - whether co-sharing with Ziva, Gibbs, or even McGee. And S8 was LARGELY the "Season of Tony" - especially by mid-to-end season, when EJ (who EVERYONE hated) showed up. One Last Score was a shameless "Tony tribute", and MW certainly put HIS character in the best light possible. Tony has had PLENTY of attention; I'd like to see Tim/Abby get some more now.
gatorgal Rank: Recurring Character
November 1st, 2012 3:21 PM
@ Sue Ann
Rank: Recurring Character
November 1st, 2012 2:47 AM
It was made clear early in the series that Gibbs wants to use hand tools to do his wood-working, not power tools. He would never accept, nor ever use,
Well, Sue Ann, or whoever you are, the Shopsmith Gibbs bought roughly approximates all the tools I mentioned, except for the planer. So your statement is false. And a wood lathe has already been shown in the basement. Its all moot. I've figured out what he's making.
Mel
November 1st, 2012 12:29 PM
Kath, I disagree that the past two seasons were Tony heavy. S8 Tony had one ep, Baltimore, where his character took center stage, and one ep, False Witness,where Tony had a good amount of the B story(although it was more of a team ep). That's it. S9 Tony had a bit more focus, I agree,but after having little focus for five seasons (since S4), I hardly think that's unfair. The Tony character has been with the show since the very begining, Michael Weatherly is given second billing, so I would expect more focus than his character got in S5 thru 8, actually. That said, I think the show does try to spread the wealth as far as the main characters go. Gibbs will always take center stage. Ziva had a good amount of attention in S6 and 7, and has the bulk of spoilers so far for S10. I do think fans of Abby, McGee and Jimmy have legit complaints as far as their contribution to the show, but so far this season we've gotten a bit more McGee and Abby, so maybe this will get better. I like all
Michael
November 1st, 2012 8:41 AM
@Kath
Why do you think the last two seasons were overwhelming emphasis on Gibbs, Tony and Vance? I can kind of see Gibbs but the last time we had a good tony storyline at that time was season 4 and it was not till Michael Weatherly was thinking about quitting NCIS that they finally did a back-story on him. As for Vance he still a new character to the show and there so much we still don't know about him so of course we are going to see some stuff on him not as much as we did Jenny but some.
However I do agree with you that I think they learn their mistake from season 7 which was the Tiva season and that there should not be a whole season about ONE character even though NCIS has so far been a disappointment these season I have a feeling it’s going to pick up.
Sue Ann Rank: Regular Character
November 1st, 2012 2:47 AM
It was made clear early in the series that Gibbs wants to use hand tools to do his wood-working, not power tools. He would never accept, nor ever use, all of the power tools Eutro listed. He was protecting someone or other at his house one time, and that person was helping him work on his boat, and started sanding or scraping the wrong way, against the grain of the wood. Gibbs stopped them, and gave them a small lecture on hand work. He will always do it by hand.
I got home too late to see the whole episode, and haven't caught it today on the internet yet, so I can't comment on that. But the hand tools are very much a part of the character of Gibbs. He puts in the work at everything he does; he does not take the easy way out.
Matt
November 1st, 2012 1:34 AM
That's why I don't watch a lot of procedural shows. They are fairly similar, but I've always liked NCIS the best and I understand that the show in terms of who the killer was seemed off, but I think the reasoning behind that was is this episode to me was clearly about the man Gibbs was named after, hence the title of the episode. The whole ferrari thing and pawn shop thing was a way for Gibbs to "run across" the medal, etc. Remember though, they knew the killer, but they had no motive, as McGee said it would be Gibbs call to hold Dell or not, and well Gibbs was running around talking to LJ Moore. While yeah they could have done more in the "crime-of-the-week" department, that took a backseat in this episode.
Personally, I was happy to see more emotion from Gibbs, it seems to be a recurring theme this season, and I'm pretty sure I know where it's going to lead to, just don't know what's going to happen. But Mark Harmon really displayed his ability and McGee and DiNozzo fighting
Kath
November 1st, 2012 12:57 AM
The case was the weakest part of the episode (how could he not look at who was driving the car?) but I'm glad the team got to solve it. Better was the Gibbs story where Gibbs finally stops being an emotional mute and pushes his father to restore the friendship. He handled the info about his mother very well too.
I'm liking this season much better than the past two seasons because they seem to be spreading the storylines around over all the cast after the overwhelming emphasis on Gibbs, Tony and Vance the past two seasons. I'm looking forward to the promised stories for McGee, Abby and Ziva.
@Eutrophicated1 Woodworking is Mark Harmon's hobby, which is probably why they made it Gibbs' relaxation too in the early seasons. Harmon brought in his own tools for Gibbs workshop.
Eutro- haven't you ever been in a shop for one purpose and happen to see something interesting? It's a pawn shop. She takes in lots of different things.
As for analyzing Gibbs' basement, you aren't supposed to think so close.
Maybe the agents and bad guys should carry water pistols.
4McNozzo
October 31st, 2012 9:08 PM
I enjoyed this episode and last weeks sooo much more than the first three. No humiliated, idiot Tony. Not much focus on super Ziva (thank you!!!) A nice mix up in the pairings. Abby portrayed as funny, intelligent, desirable and not a baby. Even though I'm a bit weary of Gibbs backstories - I liked this one. Loved Ralph Waite!!!! I wish they could write more like the last two episodes. I'm so sick of all the forced flattery for some of the cast and the forced humiliation predictably with others, so this episode was a VERY pleasant change.
Michael
October 31st, 2012 8:42 PM
who ever wrote these one should write them all for now all it was so well balance between characters and was not so Ziva Focus as the last one was
coco14
October 31st, 2012 3:54 PM
fantastic episode - loved the storylines and Billy Dee Williams and Ralph Waite were a great pair - I hope this show runs forever -
Nat
October 31st, 2012 2:55 PM
I agree with Janet (Hi Janet!!!) - This ep was "Ok", but not great. Parts of it were rather boring, and did not keep my attention. The storyline was way too far-fetched, which made it unbelievable, for me. But I DID like the fact that we learned more about Gibbs' background concerning his mom's death (how awful was that??!), and her "too close" friendship with L.J. Mr. B.D. Williams did a good job in the role. I'm glad he's friends again with Jackson Gibbs. Good friends are worth holding onto.
elizmom
October 31st, 2012 2:04 PM
Eutro- haven't you ever been in a shop for one purpose and happen to see something interesting? It's a pawn shop. She takes in lots of different things.
As for analyzing Gibbs' basement, you aren't supposed to think so close. It's crazy unrealistic that he builds boats in the basement and somehow gets them out whole.? Don't overanalyze the best show on television.
Great episode. Always love seeing Waited, and Billy Dee was cool.
eternal
October 31st, 2012 1:56 PM
such a moving episode, like so many other episodes of NCIS
great storyline!
NCIS Fan
October 31st, 2012 12:45 PM
I thought this was a very good, back-to-basics, whodunit episode, with just the right amount of emotional schmaltz thrown in.
However, I have to disagree with Carla's assessment of Abby's outfit, which she described as "cute." I think that line should read, "...cute if you're a four-year-old." Sorry, but I just can't get behind her wardrobe choices these days. She's 40-something years old, for crying out loud.
Michael
October 31st, 2012 12:25 PM
I thought for a second that Leroy Jethro Moore was going to be Gibbs real bad but the fact that he help kill gibbs mom was a real shock
Michael
October 31st, 2012 11:51 AM
WOW I got to see it sent chill down my back given it an A
Carol
October 31st, 2012 11:14 AM
It was a good episode. Enjoyed the fact that Ralph Waite and Billy Dee Williams started a new friendship. Nice seeing Billy Dee Williams after a long time. Loved the way Abby's outfit matched the Ferrari. Great looking car!
tiva (Tania) Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2012 9:26 AM
I meant it was a good episode
tiva (Tania) Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2012 6:52 AM
i was a good episode. I liked the end when they showed and the tribute Montford Point Marines,and how the finally got Congressional Gold Medal.
janet
October 31st, 2012 3:07 AM
it was a ok episode some good parts but not one of the best smthing was missing.
Both Ralph Waite and Billy Dee Williams did a great job in this episode. Very believable as two old best friends. And it sure didn't hurt to honor the marine regiment. This episode could easily have been made as a two-episode production.
Ducky is supposed to be a forensic psychologist, and therefore a perceptive friend to Gibbs. Why not have him supply Gibbs with a whole shop, as appreciation for Gibb's help with his estate? Come on team. Think more creatively.
On the other hand, Mark Harmon seems familiar with the Shopsmith multi-tool. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume he has done wood working for a hobby for many years. On the other hand, the Shopsmith doesn't seem robust enough for the size of projects Gibbs seems to be embarking upon. Again we're expected to believe the stories built up from too sketchy scripting and production setup. It would have been better for Gibbs to somehow acquire a conventional band saw, drill press, table saw, planer and jointer over a period of multiple seasons and episodes, perhaps in similar ways to Ziva giving him that classic chisel several seasons ago.
Overall the production seemed a bit shoddy for a first class series.
Abby: I knew that guy was trouble. He's like an evil McGee.
November 1st, 2012 4:26 PM
@Kath; I agree with you and Nat - the case WAS the weakest part. I got distracted while watching it -it did not keep my attention. Also I disagree with Mel. Sorry Mel, but if you've been paying attn since "S5", you should know that Tony has actually SHARED the focus with literally EVERY major cast member - whether co-sharing with Ziva, Gibbs, or even McGee. And S8 was LARGELY the "Season of Tony" - especially by mid-to-end season, when EJ (who EVERYONE hated) showed up. One Last Score was a shameless "Tony tribute", and MW certainly put HIS character in the best light possible. Tony has had PLENTY of attention; I'd like to see Tim/Abby get some more now.
Rank: Recurring Character
November 1st, 2012 3:21 PM
@NCIS Fan re: Abby's outfit
I thought it was a Halloween costume.
Rank: Extra
November 1st, 2012 1:00 PM
@ Sue Ann
Rank: Recurring Character
November 1st, 2012 2:47 AM
It was made clear early in the series that Gibbs wants to use hand tools to do his wood-working, not power tools. He would never accept, nor ever use,
Well, Sue Ann, or whoever you are, the Shopsmith Gibbs bought roughly approximates all the tools I mentioned, except for the planer. So your statement is false. And a wood lathe has already been shown in the basement. Its all moot. I've figured out what he's making.
November 1st, 2012 12:29 PM
Kath, I disagree that the past two seasons were Tony heavy. S8 Tony had one ep, Baltimore, where his character took center stage, and one ep, False Witness,where Tony had a good amount of the B story(although it was more of a team ep). That's it. S9 Tony had a bit more focus, I agree,but after having little focus for five seasons (since S4), I hardly think that's unfair. The Tony character has been with the show since the very begining, Michael Weatherly is given second billing, so I would expect more focus than his character got in S5 thru 8, actually. That said, I think the show does try to spread the wealth as far as the main characters go. Gibbs will always take center stage. Ziva had a good amount of attention in S6 and 7, and has the bulk of spoilers so far for S10. I do think fans of Abby, McGee and Jimmy have legit complaints as far as their contribution to the show, but so far this season we've gotten a bit more McGee and Abby, so maybe this will get better. I like all
November 1st, 2012 8:41 AM
@Kath
Why do you think the last two seasons were overwhelming emphasis on Gibbs, Tony and Vance? I can kind of see Gibbs but the last time we had a good tony storyline at that time was season 4 and it was not till Michael Weatherly was thinking about quitting NCIS that they finally did a back-story on him. As for Vance he still a new character to the show and there so much we still don't know about him so of course we are going to see some stuff on him not as much as we did Jenny but some.
However I do agree with you that I think they learn their mistake from season 7 which was the Tiva season and that there should not be a whole season about ONE character even though NCIS has so far been a disappointment these season I have a feeling it’s going to pick up.
Rank: Regular Character
November 1st, 2012 2:47 AM
It was made clear early in the series that Gibbs wants to use hand tools to do his wood-working, not power tools. He would never accept, nor ever use, all of the power tools Eutro listed. He was protecting someone or other at his house one time, and that person was helping him work on his boat, and started sanding or scraping the wrong way, against the grain of the wood. Gibbs stopped them, and gave them a small lecture on hand work. He will always do it by hand.
I got home too late to see the whole episode, and haven't caught it today on the internet yet, so I can't comment on that. But the hand tools are very much a part of the character of Gibbs. He puts in the work at everything he does; he does not take the easy way out.
November 1st, 2012 1:34 AM
That's why I don't watch a lot of procedural shows. They are fairly similar, but I've always liked NCIS the best and I understand that the show in terms of who the killer was seemed off, but I think the reasoning behind that was is this episode to me was clearly about the man Gibbs was named after, hence the title of the episode. The whole ferrari thing and pawn shop thing was a way for Gibbs to "run across" the medal, etc. Remember though, they knew the killer, but they had no motive, as McGee said it would be Gibbs call to hold Dell or not, and well Gibbs was running around talking to LJ Moore. While yeah they could have done more in the "crime-of-the-week" department, that took a backseat in this episode.
Personally, I was happy to see more emotion from Gibbs, it seems to be a recurring theme this season, and I'm pretty sure I know where it's going to lead to, just don't know what's going to happen. But Mark Harmon really displayed his ability and McGee and DiNozzo fighting
November 1st, 2012 12:57 AM
The case was the weakest part of the episode (how could he not look at who was driving the car?) but I'm glad the team got to solve it. Better was the Gibbs story where Gibbs finally stops being an emotional mute and pushes his father to restore the friendship. He handled the info about his mother very well too.
I'm liking this season much better than the past two seasons because they seem to be spreading the storylines around over all the cast after the overwhelming emphasis on Gibbs, Tony and Vance the past two seasons. I'm looking forward to the promised stories for McGee, Abby and Ziva.
@Eutrophicated1 Woodworking is Mark Harmon's hobby, which is probably why they made it Gibbs' relaxation too in the early seasons. Harmon brought in his own tools for Gibbs workshop.
Rank: Extra
October 31st, 2012 11:22 PM
@ elizmom
October 31st, 2012 2:04 PM
Eutro- haven't you ever been in a shop for one purpose and happen to see something interesting? It's a pawn shop. She takes in lots of different things.
As for analyzing Gibbs' basement, you aren't supposed to think so close.
Maybe the agents and bad guys should carry water pistols.
October 31st, 2012 9:08 PM
I enjoyed this episode and last weeks sooo much more than the first three. No humiliated, idiot Tony. Not much focus on super Ziva (thank you!!!) A nice mix up in the pairings. Abby portrayed as funny, intelligent, desirable and not a baby. Even though I'm a bit weary of Gibbs backstories - I liked this one. Loved Ralph Waite!!!! I wish they could write more like the last two episodes. I'm so sick of all the forced flattery for some of the cast and the forced humiliation predictably with others, so this episode was a VERY pleasant change.
October 31st, 2012 8:42 PM
who ever wrote these one should write them all for now all it was so well balance between characters and was not so Ziva Focus as the last one was
October 31st, 2012 3:54 PM
fantastic episode - loved the storylines and Billy Dee Williams and Ralph Waite were a great pair - I hope this show runs forever -
October 31st, 2012 2:55 PM
I agree with Janet (Hi Janet!!!) - This ep was "Ok", but not great. Parts of it were rather boring, and did not keep my attention. The storyline was way too far-fetched, which made it unbelievable, for me. But I DID like the fact that we learned more about Gibbs' background concerning his mom's death (how awful was that??!), and her "too close" friendship with L.J. Mr. B.D. Williams did a good job in the role. I'm glad he's friends again with Jackson Gibbs. Good friends are worth holding onto.
October 31st, 2012 2:04 PM
Eutro- haven't you ever been in a shop for one purpose and happen to see something interesting? It's a pawn shop. She takes in lots of different things.
As for analyzing Gibbs' basement, you aren't supposed to think so close. It's crazy unrealistic that he builds boats in the basement and somehow gets them out whole.? Don't overanalyze the best show on television.
Great episode. Always love seeing Waited, and Billy Dee was cool.
October 31st, 2012 1:56 PM
such a moving episode, like so many other episodes of NCIS
great storyline!
October 31st, 2012 12:45 PM
I thought this was a very good, back-to-basics, whodunit episode, with just the right amount of emotional schmaltz thrown in.
However, I have to disagree with Carla's assessment of Abby's outfit, which she described as "cute." I think that line should read, "...cute if you're a four-year-old." Sorry, but I just can't get behind her wardrobe choices these days. She's 40-something years old, for crying out loud.
October 31st, 2012 12:25 PM
I thought for a second that Leroy Jethro Moore was going to be Gibbs real bad but the fact that he help kill gibbs mom was a real shock
October 31st, 2012 11:51 AM
WOW I got to see it sent chill down my back given it an A
October 31st, 2012 11:14 AM
It was a good episode. Enjoyed the fact that Ralph Waite and Billy Dee Williams started a new friendship. Nice seeing Billy Dee Williams after a long time. Loved the way Abby's outfit matched the Ferrari. Great looking car!
Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2012 9:26 AM
I meant it was a good episode
Rank: Recurring Character
October 31st, 2012 6:52 AM
i was a good episode. I liked the end when they showed and the tribute Montford Point Marines,and how the finally got Congressional Gold Medal.
October 31st, 2012 3:07 AM
it was a ok episode some good parts but not one of the best smthing was missing.
Rank: Extra
October 31st, 2012 2:05 AM
Both Ralph Waite and Billy Dee Williams did a great job in this episode. Very believable as two old best friends. And it sure didn't hurt to honor the marine regiment. This episode could easily have been made as a two-episode production.
Rank: Extra
October 31st, 2012 1:48 AM
Ducky is supposed to be a forensic psychologist, and therefore a perceptive friend to Gibbs. Why not have him supply Gibbs with a whole shop, as appreciation for Gibb's help with his estate? Come on team. Think more creatively.
Rank: Extra
October 31st, 2012 1:42 AM
On the other hand, Mark Harmon seems familiar with the Shopsmith multi-tool. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume he has done wood working for a hobby for many years. On the other hand, the Shopsmith doesn't seem robust enough for the size of projects Gibbs seems to be embarking upon. Again we're expected to believe the stories built up from too sketchy scripting and production setup. It would have been better for Gibbs to somehow acquire a conventional band saw, drill press, table saw, planer and jointer over a period of multiple seasons and episodes, perhaps in similar ways to Ziva giving him that classic chisel several seasons ago.
Overall the production seemed a bit shoddy for a first class series.