NCIS Review: Reclaiming the Good Comments (Page 2)
53 Comments
niset
October 5th, 2012 11:18 AM
More TIVA scenes. Their love has been put to a test since season 3. Seven long years of yearning and sex-eyed to each other with such longing in spite of other relationships with other people somehow felled apart and faded compare to their love for each other which had standed out all these years. It is time for them to declare their love and see where it will go from there.
niset
October 5th, 2012 11:09 AM
TIVA needs to b a couple during season 10. They have danced around their feelings long enough. Since season 3 the attraction has been there but after season 9 they should realize that their true love and soul mates are right there across from their desks. No need to look further. Give some fun scenes of them trying to hide their love from the others. They deserve to be happy with each other after the relationships they both had with other people and none worked out because they love each other but too afraid to act on it. Even Tony's father thought Ziva was what his son needed and should act on it.
annie
October 5th, 2012 10:57 AM
I agree with Dale. Steve got it wrong about Ducky.
Eutrophicated1
October 5th, 2012 3:53 AM
Moreover, I would have expected a Ziva-like character to have a more than healthy paranoia exhibited the first time the Harper Dearing character breached the headquarters of NCIS. I would have expected her to already have a false identity set up, and to have gone completely off the grid to catch and kill the madman, simply out of a self-preservation motive, if not to protect her team mates.
This character inconsistency is disturbingly ongoing. But then again, the whole Harper Dearing characterization was bizarrely unrealistic anyway.
Eutrophicated1
October 5th, 2012 3:27 AM
@ eye4golf
I've liked the Abby character best when she's played dress up, as in S04e06-Witch Hunt, when she wore the Marylin Monroe dress and wig. She was also fun when she first wore the 'southern Louisiana Goth Dress with Parisol', the ep with Abby and McGee gone to South America.
More realistically, though, an NCIS director and SecNav would be expected to have procedures in place to protect domestic offices and personnel from insanely effective terrorists like Harper Dearing. I would expect them to be summarily dismissed should those properties be breached and personnel harmed in light of such lax security. Never mind about the PTSD aftermath.
Dale
October 4th, 2012 8:37 PM
Steve i think you got the wrong end of the stick. Palmer didn't swallow his pride to call Ducky asking for help, in reality he didn't need help. Ducky even said that they worked a similar case before and so Jimmy new exactly what to do. Palmer was just trying to make Ducky feel better after overhearing his conversation with Gibbs earlier.
How about Vance's loud blow-up in the squad room!? I thought that that scene and the office scene (with Gibbs talking about his car being wired to blow) really set up the potential for some upcoming PTSD sub-plots involving Rocky's character,...now that 'sleeping beauty' Abby has been 'cured'!! :)
MCAL
October 4th, 2012 3:03 AM
@immortalfrieza
To answer your question about her nightmares. Way back in season 1. And now, that's a pretty heartless thing to say. It is a proven fact that old trauma can arise from PTSD. Not only that if you knew someone with PTSD and yelled at them to get over that, that would make you the biggesst jerk ever. You might get away with it since this is telvision of course, but I would definitely chose my words carefully. I agree with you on the conselor though, but the reason he didn't talk to Ducky is because Ducky is technically not at work.
immortalfrieza Rank: Guest Star
October 3rd, 2012 9:39 PM
NCIS is best when it's case and it's character development go hand and that wasn't the case this episode. The Abby storyline was mindnumbingly boring, like all Abby centered storyline are, because they always give her some emotional problem the entire episode out of nowhere (worse, she solved this recurring nightmare crap I don't know how many episodes ago) that Abby spends the whole episode whining about that makes you want to scream "GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!" rather than as the caffeine fueled, incredibly happy squirrel that everybody loves her as.
The rest of the story was good enough, but I felt like they could have stretched the crisis conselor's part to at least a couple of episodes and used him to get deeper insight into the psyche of the team members we otherwise couldn't have got instead of him just being there to set up a few jokes but ultimately mean nothing, I'm surprised there's no mention of him talking to Ducky though, considering he almost died.
Its true Its true
October 3rd, 2012 9:03 PM
@Enoughalready
You are so right and its has very been shoved in our face these season
Mike
October 3rd, 2012 9:02 PM
@Lurker
Tony was never as bad to Kate as Mcgee and Ziva are too him they act like two spoil rotten rich kids
Lurker
October 3rd, 2012 8:48 PM
@Enoughalready
You need to rewatch the first three seasons. His treatment of Kate was borderline, and occasionally crossed the line, of sexual harassment. Ziva was introduced and he tried the same things with her, only to have her do the exact same thing back at him. He was a lot more dismissive of and rude to McGee, as well.
Enoughalready
October 3rd, 2012 8:19 PM
@lurker - Exactly who was Tony harassing and humiliating the whole episode? I remember him ribbing Palmer a bit when Palmer came to the scene sporting a bit of an air. But of course, super Ziva - friend to the under dog, came to Jimmy's rescue. I mostly remember the writers giving Tony one humiliation after another. No one else ever gets that treatment. Ziva and Gibbs are practically perfect week after week. Only Tony gets egg on his face constantly. He seems to be the sacrificial lamb for what passes for humor, week after week after week after week after ........
Lurker
October 3rd, 2012 6:33 PM
@Enoughalready
Have you forgotten that Tony has spent the larger part of the series harassing, humiliating, and joking about the others? Wouldn't you consider it a sign of maturity for the character that he can take it as well as he can dish it out?
Enoughalready
October 3rd, 2012 5:27 PM
I liked the Abby story, but did not like the episode. It was a humiliate Tony fest from start to finish. As usual Ziva and Gibbs are the only characters who are made to look good all the time. As a Tony fan, I'm about to give up. I lost count of how many times Tony was the butt of the joke or portrayed as a loser in every scene he was in.
Lurker
October 3rd, 2012 4:26 PM
I don't think that the others were as unaffected as they were pretending to be. That whole bit when the shrink first shows up with everyone saying they're fine seemed to me that they were just going through the motions, but all three of the musketeers could see beneath the facade. Gibbs seemed to be the only one who wasn't really affected, but considering all that he's been through before, maybe that isn't such a surprise.
Dave
October 3rd, 2012 2:26 PM
Sorry about that. Recovery was good but Abbys time was cut short.
Dave
October 3rd, 2012 2:22 PM
The recovery episode was good as usual,but Abby was FAMILY matters
MCAL
October 3rd, 2012 1:38 PM
@disappointed
Love te name. I lol'd for a bit. But I disagree with what you said about Abby. People react to bad things differently. It's not like Abby wasn't really affected. Like Gibbs said, Abby felt alone and when felt like she had someone very special in her life (Besides the team), she knew that she would not have to worry about being helpless. It's not like her sleeping made it all go away though. She is just able to sleep again.
Disappointed
October 3rd, 2012 12:56 PM
So this horrible explosion occurs and everyone, except Abby (big surprise) and Vance (definitely a surprise) appears to be unaffected. And Abby is magically cured by contacting her long-lost brother? Oh, please. I am really disappointed that the writers took such a serious issue, like PTSD, and whitewashed it. I'm not a big "Abby fan" necessarily, but I always thought her character had more depth to it. I can get the same reaction out of my dog by throwing her tennis ball across the yard. Maybe they'll do better with Vance's character. But I do like how they are portraying Duckie and the life-changing event he experienced. He's the most introspective and thoughtful character on the show; I would really like to see the writers play out his struggle.
sherri giles
October 3rd, 2012 11:48 AM
Is Dr Ryan coming back,Gibbs needs her. They were good together!
linda
October 3rd, 2012 10:47 AM
The premise here was excellent, but.........we didn't know right away that the time was 4 months after the explosion.
I think that was an important factor. Also the repair of the bldg. would have been done by then. Yes, the orange walls were a nod to former comments/complaints. Even Tony noted them when he 1st came to NCIS. Here is my major comment. This could easily have been done in two episodes. It would have been very interesting to have probed a bit deeper into each characters hidden reactions to the explosion. Tim states that he is "mentally stable: yet in previous episodes he hints at father issues. We know Tony has major issues and even Gibbs. Yes, 2 episodes would have been more revealing.
janet
October 3rd, 2012 8:36 AM
some people can change there name but they can never change there own style of writing.
katmandu
October 3rd, 2012 8:35 AM
Strong episode #2. Can't really say that I didn't like anything. I enjoyed every minute of it. Possibly the best Abby centric episode yet. Loved the family feel, the team feel and love the progress of our dynamic duo Tony/Ziva. Can't wait to see what GG has in store for us for episode #3 - and beyond.
Lurker
October 3rd, 2012 8:33 AM
Did anyone else notice that Tony and Ziva were shoulder-to-shoulder in most of their scenes? A lot closer than they usually stand.
Abby: I knew that guy was trouble. He's like an evil McGee.
October 5th, 2012 11:18 AM
More TIVA scenes. Their love has been put to a test since season 3. Seven long years of yearning and sex-eyed to each other with such longing in spite of other relationships with other people somehow felled apart and faded compare to their love for each other which had standed out all these years. It is time for them to declare their love and see where it will go from there.
October 5th, 2012 11:09 AM
TIVA needs to b a couple during season 10. They have danced around their feelings long enough. Since season 3 the attraction has been there but after season 9 they should realize that their true love and soul mates are right there across from their desks. No need to look further. Give some fun scenes of them trying to hide their love from the others. They deserve to be happy with each other after the relationships they both had with other people and none worked out because they love each other but too afraid to act on it. Even Tony's father thought Ziva was what his son needed and should act on it.
October 5th, 2012 10:57 AM
I agree with Dale. Steve got it wrong about Ducky.
October 5th, 2012 3:53 AM
Moreover, I would have expected a Ziva-like character to have a more than healthy paranoia exhibited the first time the Harper Dearing character breached the headquarters of NCIS. I would have expected her to already have a false identity set up, and to have gone completely off the grid to catch and kill the madman, simply out of a self-preservation motive, if not to protect her team mates.
This character inconsistency is disturbingly ongoing. But then again, the whole Harper Dearing characterization was bizarrely unrealistic anyway.
October 5th, 2012 3:27 AM
@ eye4golf
I've liked the Abby character best when she's played dress up, as in S04e06-Witch Hunt, when she wore the Marylin Monroe dress and wig. She was also fun when she first wore the 'southern Louisiana Goth Dress with Parisol', the ep with Abby and McGee gone to South America.
More realistically, though, an NCIS director and SecNav would be expected to have procedures in place to protect domestic offices and personnel from insanely effective terrorists like Harper Dearing. I would expect them to be summarily dismissed should those properties be breached and personnel harmed in light of such lax security. Never mind about the PTSD aftermath.
October 4th, 2012 8:37 PM
Steve i think you got the wrong end of the stick. Palmer didn't swallow his pride to call Ducky asking for help, in reality he didn't need help. Ducky even said that they worked a similar case before and so Jimmy new exactly what to do. Palmer was just trying to make Ducky feel better after overhearing his conversation with Gibbs earlier.
Rank: Extra
October 4th, 2012 5:36 PM
How about Vance's loud blow-up in the squad room!? I thought that that scene and the office scene (with Gibbs talking about his car being wired to blow) really set up the potential for some upcoming PTSD sub-plots involving Rocky's character,...now that 'sleeping beauty' Abby has been 'cured'!! :)
October 4th, 2012 3:03 AM
@immortalfrieza
To answer your question about her nightmares. Way back in season 1. And now, that's a pretty heartless thing to say. It is a proven fact that old trauma can arise from PTSD. Not only that if you knew someone with PTSD and yelled at them to get over that, that would make you the biggesst jerk ever. You might get away with it since this is telvision of course, but I would definitely chose my words carefully. I agree with you on the conselor though, but the reason he didn't talk to Ducky is because Ducky is technically not at work.
Rank: Guest Star
October 3rd, 2012 9:39 PM
NCIS is best when it's case and it's character development go hand and that wasn't the case this episode. The Abby storyline was mindnumbingly boring, like all Abby centered storyline are, because they always give her some emotional problem the entire episode out of nowhere (worse, she solved this recurring nightmare crap I don't know how many episodes ago) that Abby spends the whole episode whining about that makes you want to scream "GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!" rather than as the caffeine fueled, incredibly happy squirrel that everybody loves her as.
The rest of the story was good enough, but I felt like they could have stretched the crisis conselor's part to at least a couple of episodes and used him to get deeper insight into the psyche of the team members we otherwise couldn't have got instead of him just being there to set up a few jokes but ultimately mean nothing, I'm surprised there's no mention of him talking to Ducky though, considering he almost died.
October 3rd, 2012 9:03 PM
@Enoughalready
You are so right and its has very been shoved in our face these season
October 3rd, 2012 9:02 PM
@Lurker
Tony was never as bad to Kate as Mcgee and Ziva are too him they act like two spoil rotten rich kids
October 3rd, 2012 8:48 PM
@Enoughalready
You need to rewatch the first three seasons. His treatment of Kate was borderline, and occasionally crossed the line, of sexual harassment. Ziva was introduced and he tried the same things with her, only to have her do the exact same thing back at him. He was a lot more dismissive of and rude to McGee, as well.
October 3rd, 2012 8:19 PM
@lurker - Exactly who was Tony harassing and humiliating the whole episode? I remember him ribbing Palmer a bit when Palmer came to the scene sporting a bit of an air. But of course, super Ziva - friend to the under dog, came to Jimmy's rescue. I mostly remember the writers giving Tony one humiliation after another. No one else ever gets that treatment. Ziva and Gibbs are practically perfect week after week. Only Tony gets egg on his face constantly. He seems to be the sacrificial lamb for what passes for humor, week after week after week after week after ........
October 3rd, 2012 6:33 PM
@Enoughalready
Have you forgotten that Tony has spent the larger part of the series harassing, humiliating, and joking about the others? Wouldn't you consider it a sign of maturity for the character that he can take it as well as he can dish it out?
October 3rd, 2012 5:27 PM
I liked the Abby story, but did not like the episode. It was a humiliate Tony fest from start to finish. As usual Ziva and Gibbs are the only characters who are made to look good all the time. As a Tony fan, I'm about to give up. I lost count of how many times Tony was the butt of the joke or portrayed as a loser in every scene he was in.
October 3rd, 2012 4:26 PM
I don't think that the others were as unaffected as they were pretending to be. That whole bit when the shrink first shows up with everyone saying they're fine seemed to me that they were just going through the motions, but all three of the musketeers could see beneath the facade. Gibbs seemed to be the only one who wasn't really affected, but considering all that he's been through before, maybe that isn't such a surprise.
October 3rd, 2012 2:26 PM
Sorry about that. Recovery was good but Abbys time was cut short.
October 3rd, 2012 2:22 PM
The recovery episode was good as usual,but Abby was FAMILY matters
October 3rd, 2012 1:38 PM
@disappointed
Love te name. I lol'd for a bit. But I disagree with what you said about Abby. People react to bad things differently. It's not like Abby wasn't really affected. Like Gibbs said, Abby felt alone and when felt like she had someone very special in her life (Besides the team), she knew that she would not have to worry about being helpless. It's not like her sleeping made it all go away though. She is just able to sleep again.
October 3rd, 2012 12:56 PM
So this horrible explosion occurs and everyone, except Abby (big surprise) and Vance (definitely a surprise) appears to be unaffected. And Abby is magically cured by contacting her long-lost brother? Oh, please. I am really disappointed that the writers took such a serious issue, like PTSD, and whitewashed it. I'm not a big "Abby fan" necessarily, but I always thought her character had more depth to it. I can get the same reaction out of my dog by throwing her tennis ball across the yard. Maybe they'll do better with Vance's character. But I do like how they are portraying Duckie and the life-changing event he experienced. He's the most introspective and thoughtful character on the show; I would really like to see the writers play out his struggle.
October 3rd, 2012 11:48 AM
Is Dr Ryan coming back,Gibbs needs her. They were good together!
October 3rd, 2012 10:47 AM
The premise here was excellent, but.........we didn't know right away that the time was 4 months after the explosion.
I think that was an important factor. Also the repair of the bldg. would have been done by then. Yes, the orange walls were a nod to former comments/complaints. Even Tony noted them when he 1st came to NCIS. Here is my major comment. This could easily have been done in two episodes. It would have been very interesting to have probed a bit deeper into each characters hidden reactions to the explosion. Tim states that he is "mentally stable: yet in previous episodes he hints at father issues. We know Tony has major issues and even Gibbs. Yes, 2 episodes would have been more revealing.
October 3rd, 2012 8:36 AM
some people can change there name but they can never change there own style of writing.
October 3rd, 2012 8:35 AM
Strong episode #2. Can't really say that I didn't like anything. I enjoyed every minute of it. Possibly the best Abby centric episode yet. Loved the family feel, the team feel and love the progress of our dynamic duo Tony/Ziva. Can't wait to see what GG has in store for us for episode #3 - and beyond.
October 3rd, 2012 8:33 AM
Did anyone else notice that Tony and Ziva were shoulder-to-shoulder in most of their scenes? A lot closer than they usually stand.