another awesome episode. love seeing more of cora. i knew she was lancelot when she came in at the end (they dont have cell phones and only mulan, aurora, emma, and snow where in the woods, how would he "hear" about the ogre attack?) but was surprised that she was being him the whole time. can't wait for the family reunion of regina and cora, i see an epic season finalely on the horizons. love all the family moments (emma and snow, charming and henry, hatter and his daughter). i hope we get to see more and more of hatter. i kind of feel bad for aurora. she's around all these strong women, she's going to have to up her game, maybe train with mulan? next week we go to neverland and meet hook and oh my does he look delicious. that is the hook i grew up with. forget the lost boys can i be a pirate in his crew?
Not impressed. The rationale for Lancelot really being Cora was insufficient. How did s/he manage to be in the pit and out in the village at the same time?
So now we see the possibility that Regina becomes a good character again with Cora becoming the resident villain. I suppose that works. But I'm really getting tired of trying to figure out how the people in Storybrooke get their food and other things from the outside world if no once can leave once they've gone there. Or is that now changed because of the magic? And what about this new section of town with the docks?
Blu Rank: Regular Character
October 15th, 2012 1:05 PM
The irony is all the princesses and females have been such badasses and the antithesis of princessy that Aurora being a helpless brat is annoying. I actually wanted her to go back to sleep. I LOVED Sir Lancelot. Sinqua Walls is all kinds of amazing and I was crushing on him hard during this. Fantastic job! I love how every decent person Snow comes into contact with loves and will do anything for her and that when it's the men it's in a non -sexual way. The fantastic familial moments throughout the episode caused my allergies to flair up a little as my eyes were watering a tad. I'm so happy Jefferson found his daughter. He's one of my favorite characters. Cora and the King returning a whole other generation to add to the mix and a whole new evil!
Kate
October 15th, 2012 12:48 PM
In a totally selfish observation...I am glad Lancelot will likely only be a recurring character when Charming and Snow take over his 'father's' kingdom because I would be totally upset if I turned on Teen Wolf next summer to find that Boyd was not only killed but killed off camera.
I actually found myself welling up when Emma was talking to Snow at the end and Snow imagining what Emma's room used to look like before she left. We have kind of been focused on how Emma feels about the whole thing, but you forget that Snow missed out on her baby growing up. It was even sadder when the next scene was Charming hanging out with Henry, while he missed ten years of growing up, he is getting a chance. But that was a lot of watching from cars, first Henry is watching Jefferson and his daughter reunite sadly, then George is watching Charming and Henry with...I am not sure as I am not sure what Charming and Snow subjected him to in FTL.
Elijah's Katerina Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 11:57 AM
i loved the episode but this whole pit me emma party act is getting tedious now. how can she not understand the dangers her parents had to go through and why she couldn't have stayed! it's soooo annoying now and overcooked. i agree with the mentioning of henry being their more for regina, it seems to me she just wants her son back but has accepted she can't have him permanently for obvious reasons. he needs to man up and do it in order to help emma n snow! n aurora was the only character who suspected lancelot to be evil so props there to the writers for that subtle yet big hint. other than that interested to where the show is now going to go with cora having the magic from the wardrobe in her vail.
Sa'ad702 Rank: Regular Character
October 15th, 2012 10:44 AM
Lol @ Christine Orlando... When I was watching the ep I also couldn't help thinking that Aurora is being a brat and a sort of anti-hero in a way.
This was a great ep. I think much of the season will be for either side trying to get to the other side. I feel that season 2 is better. Now that we know the gist of the stories of the main characters its easier to get invested and root for who you want to root for.
I would love to see a fight between Regina and Cora. Now that they both have power it should be interesting.
TiffanyO Rank: Guest Star
October 15th, 2012 10:43 AM
ft a secret, it just wasn't likely shown then and there. I seriously doubt she kept it from him forever.
TiffanyO Rank: Guest Star
October 15th, 2012 10:42 AM
"A little of his grandmother in him" - he's adopted, remember? :)
I didn't like that he did that.
The one thing I would REALLY like to see is a "good" Regina this season. Not permanently, of course. But I LOVE watching her as someone who is trying. She has such range and a vulnerability you can't help but root for. Every time she does the right thing you just cheer a little inside, like with calling Charming about Henry, even though you know it broke her heart. If Henry was smart, he'd realize that he could probably bring the good out in her.
I did NOT see the Cora as Lancelot thing coming. I do hope the real Lancelot is not dead though. And I'm surprised you didn't mention him! I was getting suspicious of "his" behavior at the wardrobe, but didn't put the thing together about Henry like Snow did. I LOVE Protective Mama Tigress Snow, and I cried as she looked at the Nursery. SO glad Emma is beginning to understand.
I suspect Snow didn't keep Charming's mother's gi
KansasGuest Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 10:26 AM
Final comment...Hook looks HOT! SO excited for next week!
KansasGuest Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 10:22 AM
Was anyone else fooled into thinking that "Leviathan" might be Dr. Whale? DARN! Guess we still have to wait 2 weeks. Enjoyed seeing Lancelot. But, his appearance felt like a throwaway cameo. Any guesses as to where the King's story may fit in fairytale lore? The only tale I recall having a king & queen unable to bear children was Sleeping Beauty's. They waited a long time for her which is why her birth was so celebrated. I don't see Charming's King and Aurora's father being the same person. But...who knows?
fairytale world is where i hope everyone ends up or at least for a whitl and soo fare this season hasnt excited me as much as last season great show though its in my top 5 favorites :)
KansasGuest Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 10:02 AM
@Reviewer Christine - Charming's father, the King, was always in Storybrooke. He appeared briefly as the D.A.
@Jlo - The creators of OUAT have always said they intend to bring legends and myths from other cultures into the series. They just started with the ones most familiar to western culture (and that didn't require any sort of copyright negotiation). Midas appears in both Greek mythology and the Bible. Wonderland was a fictional creation by Lewis Carroll. Neverland, by J.M. Barrie. Sidney's genie was inspired by Middle Eastern tales.
Mrs. M.
October 15th, 2012 9:40 AM
Question: Why is Charming and Snow prince and princess (after they took back the kingdom of course). In Storybook, they still refer them as prince and princess. Aren't they suppose to be King and Queen?
guss
October 15th, 2012 9:24 AM
Maybe the best episode in this season.
I totally love everything
I think he has a bit of his other grandmother in him. So once is borrowing from other stories that are not truely fairy tails.
that was already established in Hat Trick
Everything that "our world" contains as fiction, exists somewhere. The doors in the hat hints to various non-fairytale lands like Neverland, Oz, etc.
Mulan is also not a fairytale character(since she is fictional historical figure of china, sort of chinese Arthur)
Jlo
October 15th, 2012 8:07 AM
I was surprised the reviewer liked how Henry tricked Regina. He used the fact that she really loves him to trick her into letting him steal the keys. I found that cruel & manipulative. I think he has a bit of his other grandmother in him. So once is borrowing from other stories that are not truely fairy tails. Does that meen there is an arthur or merlin in storybrook? How about other non fairy tails like greek mythology? Could we be seeing medusa or odyseus in future episodes? I wonder if emma is a fair tail character. She could be either alice from wonderland or wendy from peter pan. She has alot of wendy in her. Modern woman brought to fantasy world by ageless child. Season 2 does not disapoint.
Well this was certainly a weaker episode than last week. Great, but certainly weaker.
I guess Cora's a villain now too and the show is setting up the last showdown between the mother and the daughter this way.
Also I bet Snow's little secret will come back to bite her somehow when Charming finds out why exactly his mother died. And the person to break the truth is right here in storybrooke - all George has to say is that he cursed Snow to never have children and Charming most likely will put two and two together.
Lucy
October 15th, 2012 12:57 AM
Didn't you see Lancelot? You didn't mention him at all
First Aid Kit Rank: Regular Character
October 14th, 2012 11:15 PM
Which is basically the reason I love this show. I can see something very profound in it, while also enjoying pure entertainment that comes from Snow White battling it out with Aurora. I love these Disney princesses who refuse to be victims of circumstances and are ready to fight for what matters to them. I just love the badassy princesses.
Hookified(dande) Rank: Regular Character
October 14th, 2012 11:14 PM
OMG, Cora returning to Storybrooke will be a gamechanger. Regina and Rumple will not be able to take on her unless they work together. I am glad that Emma did not know how to kill a ogre because she cannot be the best in both worlds. Why is Regina moving out of her house, last time I check she is still mayor unless people is not happy with her and they can only voice that with Rumple but she will not let Rumple bested her. I also hope that Lancelot is safe somewhere but now it is more likely that Cora is the Queen of Hearts.
First Aid Kit Rank: Regular Character
October 14th, 2012 11:12 PM
Is it just me or does it seem that "parents and children" is becoming an undercurrent theme of the series? "Buffy The Vampire slayer" was a coming of age story that showed the heroine's struggle for survival from high school all the way through trying to make it as an adult without major screw ups (sometimes not so successfully). "Once Upon A Time" I think is borrowing from Buffy in a way that it is trying to explore something that is fundamental to human psychology which is the relationship we all have with our parents through allegorical tales of supernatural fights with swords and arrows and evil sorcerers. But despite the ogres and magic, in the end of the day, it gets to the core of something that is very realistic and profound and that is how the relationship we have with our parents shapes us as human beings.
Rank: Extra
October 15th, 2012 2:01 PM
another awesome episode. love seeing more of cora. i knew she was lancelot when she came in at the end (they dont have cell phones and only mulan, aurora, emma, and snow where in the woods, how would he "hear" about the ogre attack?) but was surprised that she was being him the whole time. can't wait for the family reunion of regina and cora, i see an epic season finalely on the horizons. love all the family moments (emma and snow, charming and henry, hatter and his daughter). i hope we get to see more and more of hatter. i kind of feel bad for aurora. she's around all these strong women, she's going to have to up her game, maybe train with mulan? next week we go to neverland and meet hook and oh my does he look delicious. that is the hook i grew up with. forget the lost boys can i be a pirate in his crew?
Rank: Extra
October 15th, 2012 1:22 PM
Not impressed. The rationale for Lancelot really being Cora was insufficient. How did s/he manage to be in the pit and out in the village at the same time?
So now we see the possibility that Regina becomes a good character again with Cora becoming the resident villain. I suppose that works. But I'm really getting tired of trying to figure out how the people in Storybrooke get their food and other things from the outside world if no once can leave once they've gone there. Or is that now changed because of the magic? And what about this new section of town with the docks?
Rank: Regular Character
October 15th, 2012 1:05 PM
The irony is all the princesses and females have been such badasses and the antithesis of princessy that Aurora being a helpless brat is annoying. I actually wanted her to go back to sleep. I LOVED Sir Lancelot. Sinqua Walls is all kinds of amazing and I was crushing on him hard during this. Fantastic job! I love how every decent person Snow comes into contact with loves and will do anything for her and that when it's the men it's in a non -sexual way. The fantastic familial moments throughout the episode caused my allergies to flair up a little as my eyes were watering a tad. I'm so happy Jefferson found his daughter. He's one of my favorite characters. Cora and the King returning a whole other generation to add to the mix and a whole new evil!
October 15th, 2012 12:48 PM
In a totally selfish observation...I am glad Lancelot will likely only be a recurring character when Charming and Snow take over his 'father's' kingdom because I would be totally upset if I turned on Teen Wolf next summer to find that Boyd was not only killed but killed off camera.
I actually found myself welling up when Emma was talking to Snow at the end and Snow imagining what Emma's room used to look like before she left. We have kind of been focused on how Emma feels about the whole thing, but you forget that Snow missed out on her baby growing up. It was even sadder when the next scene was Charming hanging out with Henry, while he missed ten years of growing up, he is getting a chance. But that was a lot of watching from cars, first Henry is watching Jefferson and his daughter reunite sadly, then George is watching Charming and Henry with...I am not sure as I am not sure what Charming and Snow subjected him to in FTL.
Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 11:57 AM
i loved the episode but this whole pit me emma party act is getting tedious now. how can she not understand the dangers her parents had to go through and why she couldn't have stayed! it's soooo annoying now and overcooked. i agree with the mentioning of henry being their more for regina, it seems to me she just wants her son back but has accepted she can't have him permanently for obvious reasons. he needs to man up and do it in order to help emma n snow! n aurora was the only character who suspected lancelot to be evil so props there to the writers for that subtle yet big hint. other than that interested to where the show is now going to go with cora having the magic from the wardrobe in her vail.
Rank: Regular Character
October 15th, 2012 10:44 AM
Lol @ Christine Orlando... When I was watching the ep I also couldn't help thinking that Aurora is being a brat and a sort of anti-hero in a way.
This was a great ep. I think much of the season will be for either side trying to get to the other side. I feel that season 2 is better. Now that we know the gist of the stories of the main characters its easier to get invested and root for who you want to root for.
I would love to see a fight between Regina and Cora. Now that they both have power it should be interesting.
Rank: Guest Star
October 15th, 2012 10:43 AM
ft a secret, it just wasn't likely shown then and there. I seriously doubt she kept it from him forever.
Rank: Guest Star
October 15th, 2012 10:42 AM
"A little of his grandmother in him" - he's adopted, remember? :)
I didn't like that he did that.
The one thing I would REALLY like to see is a "good" Regina this season. Not permanently, of course. But I LOVE watching her as someone who is trying. She has such range and a vulnerability you can't help but root for. Every time she does the right thing you just cheer a little inside, like with calling Charming about Henry, even though you know it broke her heart. If Henry was smart, he'd realize that he could probably bring the good out in her.
I did NOT see the Cora as Lancelot thing coming. I do hope the real Lancelot is not dead though. And I'm surprised you didn't mention him! I was getting suspicious of "his" behavior at the wardrobe, but didn't put the thing together about Henry like Snow did. I LOVE Protective Mama Tigress Snow, and I cried as she looked at the Nursery. SO glad Emma is beginning to understand.
I suspect Snow didn't keep Charming's mother's gi
Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 10:26 AM
Final comment...Hook looks HOT! SO excited for next week!
Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 10:22 AM
Was anyone else fooled into thinking that "Leviathan" might be Dr. Whale? DARN! Guess we still have to wait 2 weeks. Enjoyed seeing Lancelot. But, his appearance felt like a throwaway cameo. Any guesses as to where the King's story may fit in fairytale lore? The only tale I recall having a king & queen unable to bear children was Sleeping Beauty's. They waited a long time for her which is why her birth was so celebrated. I don't see Charming's King and Aurora's father being the same person. But...who knows?
Rank: Extra
October 15th, 2012 10:02 AM
fairytale world is where i hope everyone ends up or at least for a whitl and soo fare this season hasnt excited me as much as last season great show though its in my top 5 favorites :)
Rank: Recurring Character
October 15th, 2012 10:02 AM
@Reviewer Christine - Charming's father, the King, was always in Storybrooke. He appeared briefly as the D.A.
@Jlo - The creators of OUAT have always said they intend to bring legends and myths from other cultures into the series. They just started with the ones most familiar to western culture (and that didn't require any sort of copyright negotiation). Midas appears in both Greek mythology and the Bible. Wonderland was a fictional creation by Lewis Carroll. Neverland, by J.M. Barrie. Sidney's genie was inspired by Middle Eastern tales.
October 15th, 2012 9:40 AM
Question: Why is Charming and Snow prince and princess (after they took back the kingdom of course). In Storybook, they still refer them as prince and princess. Aren't they suppose to be King and Queen?
October 15th, 2012 9:24 AM
Maybe the best episode in this season.
I totally love everything
October 15th, 2012 8:10 AM
I think he has a bit of his other grandmother in him. So once is borrowing from other stories that are not truely fairy tails.
that was already established in Hat Trick
Everything that "our world" contains as fiction, exists somewhere. The doors in the hat hints to various non-fairytale lands like Neverland, Oz, etc.
Mulan is also not a fairytale character(since she is fictional historical figure of china, sort of chinese Arthur)
October 15th, 2012 8:07 AM
I was surprised the reviewer liked how Henry tricked Regina. He used the fact that she really loves him to trick her into letting him steal the keys. I found that cruel & manipulative. I think he has a bit of his other grandmother in him. So once is borrowing from other stories that are not truely fairy tails. Does that meen there is an arthur or merlin in storybrook? How about other non fairy tails like greek mythology? Could we be seeing medusa or odyseus in future episodes? I wonder if emma is a fair tail character. She could be either alice from wonderland or wendy from peter pan. She has alot of wendy in her. Modern woman brought to fantasy world by ageless child. Season 2 does not disapoint.
October 15th, 2012 1:01 AM
Also this episode truly showed the difference between a broken-down person who lost everything(Regina) and someone truly evil and malevolent(Cora).
For Regina, her magic, her "Evil Queen" persona was a wall she would use to defend herself, to protect her broken heart.
For Cora - its who she is and always will be. She can masquerade as noble knight or a poor powerless woman and no one would guess a thing.
October 15th, 2012 1:00 AM
Well this was certainly a weaker episode than last week. Great, but certainly weaker.
I guess Cora's a villain now too and the show is setting up the last showdown between the mother and the daughter this way.
Also I bet Snow's little secret will come back to bite her somehow when Charming finds out why exactly his mother died. And the person to break the truth is right here in storybrooke - all George has to say is that he cursed Snow to never have children and Charming most likely will put two and two together.
October 15th, 2012 12:57 AM
Didn't you see Lancelot? You didn't mention him at all
Rank: Regular Character
October 14th, 2012 11:15 PM
Which is basically the reason I love this show. I can see something very profound in it, while also enjoying pure entertainment that comes from Snow White battling it out with Aurora. I love these Disney princesses who refuse to be victims of circumstances and are ready to fight for what matters to them. I just love the badassy princesses.
Rank: Regular Character
October 14th, 2012 11:14 PM
OMG, Cora returning to Storybrooke will be a gamechanger. Regina and Rumple will not be able to take on her unless they work together. I am glad that Emma did not know how to kill a ogre because she cannot be the best in both worlds. Why is Regina moving out of her house, last time I check she is still mayor unless people is not happy with her and they can only voice that with Rumple but she will not let Rumple bested her. I also hope that Lancelot is safe somewhere but now it is more likely that Cora is the Queen of Hearts.
Rank: Regular Character
October 14th, 2012 11:12 PM
Is it just me or does it seem that "parents and children" is becoming an undercurrent theme of the series? "Buffy The Vampire slayer" was a coming of age story that showed the heroine's struggle for survival from high school all the way through trying to make it as an adult without major screw ups (sometimes not so successfully). "Once Upon A Time" I think is borrowing from Buffy in a way that it is trying to explore something that is fundamental to human psychology which is the relationship we all have with our parents through allegorical tales of supernatural fights with swords and arrows and evil sorcerers. But despite the ogres and magic, in the end of the day, it gets to the core of something that is very realistic and profound and that is how the relationship we have with our parents shapes us as human beings.