The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "Growing Pains"

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Elena is a vampire. Bonnie has lost her Grams again. Matt is feeling rather guilty and a major explosion has rocked Mystic Falls.

Did The Vampire Diaries Season 4 premiere live up to your expectations? Did Elena make the right choice? And what the heck is the deal with the now-dead Pastor?

Join staff writers Matt Richenthal, Steve Marsi, Eric Hochberger and Dan Forcella and sound off on these topics and more in this edition of The Vampire Diaries Round Table...


What was your favorite scene of the premiere?
Matt: Rebekah coming around and helping Stefan save Elena's life. She just couldn't resist the love story playing out before her eyes. It was like her personal, real-life version of The Notebook.

Steve: The scene where they explained how the heck Elena, Stefan and Rebecca got out of their cells. At least this was the one I was most looking forward to seeing before one of Ian Somerhalder's rescue dogs ate that page of the script.

Eric: Kyler drawing out his nails and threatening to rip out his own heart. Now that was bad ass. Less bad ass? Witchy Bonnie bringing back Klaus. Poor grandma. Where does a dead ghost go?

Dan: I have to go with Kyler going all Temple of Doom on himself to force Bonnie's hand. When those claws came out and he started going at his own chest, I had no idea how to react. That was some seriously gripping stuff.

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Who makes a better Klaus: Joseph Morgan or Michael Trevino?
Matt: Don't get me wrong, I loved Trevino's work - You incessant woman! Hey Mom! What's up? | permalink - but Joseph Morgan simply is Klaus. You can't replace an original Original, although I wouldn't have minded if this storyline took longer to play out. The supposed killing of Klaus and the body switch was a MAJOR deal on the Vampire Diaries Season 3 finale, and it was all tied up quickly here.

Steve: My colleague Dan Forcella, and his egregious displays of Joseph Morgan man-love, may be able to speak in more eloquent detail on this, but let's just say I missed the Rippah-smirking blood sucker.

Eric: You mean Michael Trevino saying love without an accent? I almost forgot he was supposed to be Klaus when he first showed up. Maybe he was just that good as Klaus playing Tyler.

Dan: Why, thank you for giving me the floor on this one Steve. Is this even a serious question? Joseph Morgan IS Klaus. Klaus IS Joseph Morgan. When he came back at the very end it was like I had died with ghost Grams and went straight to heaven. It was so nice to have him and his smirk back in our lives.

Scarier moment: Bonnie's nose bleeding; Rebekah getting staked; or Elena laugh-crying?
Matt: I had nightmares over Elena's mixture of emotions last night. That cackle. Those tears. Those cackle-based tears! It was absurd and creepy and sort of ridiculous, which is very likely what it must feel like to actually transform into a vampire.

Steve: Going with Bon-Bon on this one. The overuse of Ms. Bennett as a supernatural plot device has been well-documented, but she cast a spell in which she KILLED HERSELF on the spot. That's badass. Similarly, Grams' death was hauntingly messed up too. As Matt said in his review ... where does a dead dead witch go?!

Eric: Pretty sure Nina Dobrev has quite the career in horror ahead of her. Or the complete opposite of one in comedy. Because, damn, that laugh can be scary.

Dan: Yeah, I have to go with the laugh-cry if only because I had no idea what was going on.

Why did the Pastor blow himself and the Council up?
Matt: It had to be a signal of some sort. Pastors are all about higher callings and serving causes beyond themselves, right? I say Young was somehow taking one for the team of humanity and sacrificing himself to alert the world to the presence of vampires in town.

Steve: Was he somehow compelled to do that? Or was it a sacrificial plea for reinforcements from vampire hunters nationwide? Either way, I'm intrigued by this new twist in the show's overall narrative.

Eric: Duh! Because Jim Jones over there clearly gave them all a cup of vampire kool-aid before. Why else was he raiding the hospital's vampire blood bank?

Dan: He probably thought that if his plan didn't work on the first try, not only did he not deserve to live, but the rest of the innocents around him should cease to exist as well.  It's really good logic if you think about it.

Will Elena really stick with Stefan?
Matt: Will Lindsay Lohan ever get her life together? Sorry, Stelena lovers, the odds are about the same for each.

Steve: For the foreseeable future? Yes. Forever? That's an awfully long time, especially for a vampire. Damon's clearly not over her choice and sometime within the next century (or 2-3 seasons), you can bank on the love triangle's full-on resurgence.

Eric: Doubtful. You combine Elena's restored memories, Damon's hotness and the show's love of love triangles and I'm pretty sure we're seeing some more Delena this season. 

Dan: I see her staying with Stefan both in the short term and also by the time it is all said and done. Should she be with Stefan? No, didn't you hear that speech from Damon? Man, that was awesome. Quit fooling around and ship these two for us!


Miranda Wicker- I thought that was the front door. Love TVD,so glad it's back!


Agree with Allison, you guys definitely need a woman perspective. Every scene with Damon and Elena is amazing. As for who plays better Klaus, of course Joseph does, but give Michael some credit, he really had all the right mannerisms. As for the accent, he couldn't keep his original british accent or everyone would have figured he was Klaus. I'm sure after a thousand years on earth Klaus can fake an american cent. He just wasn't careul with the "love".

Miranda wicker

Here's the better question about why the pastor blew up the house--what was behind the door he unlocked just before he flicked the lighter??

Leon alexis

Elena laugh-crying. I was scared. I haven't seen any vampier was acting like that one! We just can not relize that Elna's brain it's something particular.


1.Elena raching for the blood.Beautifully done and haunting.The tear she shed when she tasted the blood just did it for me and i started crying.It was so meaningful but it would take me hours to explain why... 2.Joseph obviously...bui i also liked Michael 3.Elena...but i'm also sure that Nina is a better actress than that!I mean this girl blew critics away this September but let me down during this scene.But she was phenomenal when she tried to reach for the blood! 4.Probably to let the hunters around the country think that vampires killed the counsil so they have to start a war to Mystic falls!I also think that this scene is the beggining of the new villain who is not yet even mentioned! 5.No

Allison berry barbieri

Will Elena really stick with Stefan?
Obviously not. The premise of the show is the triangle...Julie Plec has said that many, many times.
Elena even alluded to her fickleness during the "Teen Wolf-like" roof scene when she said "I can be with you forever...if I want" (or something like that).
There is no way this is the last of her "choices". Who knows if Stelena or Delena will be series end game (both have their merits)..but she'll go back and forth a few times before then for sure.


1. Rebekah destroying the bloood bags! R.I.P. awful making hybrids story line, I wished you were never born. P.S. @Steve, that's a good one! 2. Michael Trevino was good AS Klaus, but JoMo IS Klaus forever and ever. 3. Elena laughing-crying....creepy 4. My question is where has this guy been for the past two seasons of sacrificing rituals becoming a regular thing in town and complete strangers breaking into houses in broad daylight? 5. Awwww, don't be so loudly jealous. But one a more serious note, of coarse she won't. Not because she does not love him, but because Elena usually does the opposite of what she promises. Example - in s2 Elena told Stefan she would never kiss Damon. Case closed.

Allison berry barbieri

Why did the Pastor blow himself and the Council up?
Not. A. Clue.
I'm not even sure I remember Pastor Young...have we met him? Should I remember him? I want to say compulsion but I don't think so.. I'd say they all drank vamp blood but I'm not sure anyone can "come back" from being blown to pieces..even with vamp blood in their system. I am going to go with them being some sort of symbol to other hunters. His statement "We are the beginning"...maybe just means they are setting off the chain of hunters? Plus it burned up all the vervain...

Allison berry barbieri

Who makes a better Klaus: Joseph Morgan or Michael Trevino?
Joseph Morgan IS Klaus when he plays the contest. And "Love" and "Bloody" just sound ridiculous being said in an American accent. Scarier moment: Bonnie's nose bleeding; Rebekah getting staked; or Elena laugh-crying?
None were all that scary really. I guess Bonnie... I was actually most frightened by Klaus's outburst against Bex.

Allison berry barbieri

What was your favorite scene of the premiere?
You need a woman's perspective on the round table because you all clearly did not fully appreciate the awesomeness of the tension filled Delena exchange that took place by the car OR the Klyler/Caroline almost sex scene OR the way in which Elena remembered Damon compelling her after he confessed his love (my personal favorite moment).

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The Vampire Diaries Season 4 Episode 1 Quotes

Where ever you go, Salvatore Brothers seem to follow.

Pastor Young

We all know the way. You feed or you die, there is no door #3.