Glee Review: When It's Over, Is It Really Over? Comments (Page 2)
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Tori
November 18th, 2012 10:21 PM
I really like the new season of glee. I think it is amazing and I agree with a lot of you guys this episode has been the best so far. I like the idea of Marley and Ryder together and I think it's great that Tina and Mike may consider each other. I like these couples because Marley and Ryder remind me of Rachel and Finn and since they're gone this is kind of like the mending bridge. I like Tina and Mike because it feels like we're getting back to the old glee. To be honest this season has been weird for me because it doesn't seem to glee like with the flashing back between New York and High school. I feel like the show is completely different. I think they need to give Rachel and kurt their own show because this is 'glee' and Rachel and Kurt aren't part of glee anymore. I think the new characters are being cheated and we aren't seeing enough of 'glee', which is supposed to be taken place in High school, because we are in New York.
Serenity Rank: Guest Star
November 18th, 2012 9:47 PM
You know I got to thinking about Santana playing Rizzo today as I was listening to the soundtrack. My high school basically had to do the same thing my junior year because the girl playing a major part in Hello Dolly dropped out about two weeks before the show opened. My friend was then given that roll but they needed someone to fill the dance spot my friend left open. Instead of rechoreographing and reteaching things that had been practicing for three months, the choreographer, a teacher much older than us, filled in. Luckily she was short and thin and could blend in easily in the big dance scenes.
jojo
November 18th, 2012 3:13 PM
I am loving the show as it is! I was actually kind of getting sick of the same glee-club restricted story and last season pretty much sucked. I absolutely love Rachel and Kurt, and Glee is not Glee without them! Who cares about the new characters (it is too soon to actually prefer them over any of the old gleeks),they have potential but they are not GLEE! It will take at least a season for me to get used to them! But I am in LOVE with Brody, him and Rachel are perfect! I am sure Cassandra is lying, it is quite obvious since they don't actually show anything happening between her and Brody!
sm
November 18th, 2012 11:39 AM
I know a lot of people like Glee as is, this was the best episode this season so far. I love Grease and the music which helped. Glee was an exact copy to the movie-sets, costumes, mannerisms-but didn't have the enthusiasm like the movie. I'm glad Santana was Rizzo. Glad for the bit with Finn and Rachel singing Your the One that I Want. Not a fan of Kitty or Sue anymore. I wish they went with a spin off so we could see a NY flat shared by Santana, Rachel, Finn and Kurt-it could have been hilarious. But all we've got is drama and all couples broken up. I watch Glee for an escape from reality and enjoy great music. So far s4 has too much drama and top 40 music. I've Glee of the past which introduced all genres and eras of music to the public. Now it is what's on the radio. A drag to me. Acting is not as good too.
Rab
November 18th, 2012 11:25 AM
@Bob, I have wished for the same thing. A McKinley high school Glee and a spin off with the graduates and their new lives going into adulthood. IMO, they gelling well together into 1 show. There are fans of the show who favor one site over the other. IMO, Glee has not equalized time and story well between NY and McKinley. Besides, NY with Rachel and Kurt is so much more dramatic with little fun and seriously little music to enjoy. For me, I'm not connecting to McKinley with the new kids. Artie, Tina, Sam, Brit and Sugar are still background characters. I don't like the new. If Glee was separate shows, then better stories and more characters would be focused on. Glee needs more fun, funny, great music, classics, better dancing, performances. HS needs better acting
Gabriella
November 18th, 2012 11:24 AM
I recognized the sugar-frenchy resemblance and I'm only eleven an I've seen grease like five times! I still think that it's better without kurt and Rachel. I mean they could guest star on it SOMETIMES but they are SO annoying!
shdkjshd
November 17th, 2012 5:40 PM
I honestly don't think Brody slept with the dance teacher. It's just way too out of character for him, from what we've seen of him. As juvenile as it would be, I will continue to believe that the dance teacher was lying and did something stupid like stole Brody's phone or realized he forgot it and failed to return it... I also don't understand why him being her TA requires them to dance together at night on a weekend...
I, too, am finding myself liking the new characters more and more with each week, and the old cast coming into it is starting to bother me. WHY did Finn call Santana to play Rizzo?! How is that even allowed?
sara
November 17th, 2012 1:30 PM
I love glee no matter who is in it or not. i love the way things are going and its keeping me on my toes on whats up. im very curious to see what in the world is happening next episode artie looks like lex luther
Bob
November 17th, 2012 1:13 PM
I'd love for Ryan Murphy to make a new separate show for the old characters off in college. So for those who are truly interested in glee at McKinley high can just watch that and for those of us who love the old characters can just watch that. The old characters are off in college and have a different lifestyle, perhaps a better story plot way different from season 1-3 in McKinley. It'd be nice.
Annie
November 17th, 2012 8:54 AM
I am hating the switching between new and old characters. Rachel, Kurt, Mercedes et al have LEFT Glee club. Maybe the fact that I cannot stand Kurt or Rachel plays a big part in my feelings towards the new set up, I just really couldn't care less what happens with them anymore. Fair enough, they will still be mentioned by their friends, they will still come home from time to time (though seriously, who on earth flies all the way back to see a high school production??) I can deal with that but the show needs to move on from them.
The fact that they are so strongly included still is the reason that people are not connecting with the new cast, their stories are being pushed so quickly to make room for New York. The old characters have moved on, so should the show. Marley is adorable, and my eyes certainly wouldn't object to Jake being given more airtime.
Adela
November 17th, 2012 7:15 AM
@ Katya and Anna It was not an error. When Unique joins New Directions, Brittany tells Unique "That's a great haircut Mercedes. I thought you graduated." See for yourself here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQMVe439Myg. It was just a pun on Brittany not distinguishing Unique from Mercedes.
Anna
November 17th, 2012 4:31 AM
@Katia I noticed that too. Weird.
Anna
November 17th, 2012 4:29 AM
For first time I totally agree with all. They need to move on with the series even if we love Rachel and Kurt.
Tanner1511 Rank: Recurring Character
November 16th, 2012 8:09 PM
But I love the original cast :(
Wish they had done the spin off so bad!
Jamie
November 16th, 2012 6:29 PM
I thought this was the best episode of this season. I think they are doing a solid job of crossing the two worlds together. Its an almost impossible challenge. Glee is as much the high school and choir room as it is Rachel Berry and Kurt. I think eventually the New York story line could become its own show but for right now it needs to be contained in the regular show as people come to learn and grown fond of the new characters. It took 3 or 4 episodes when Glee first started to achieve that too. But I do believe it is happening with the new kids.
All high school based shows face this problem and it cant go the route of Saved by the Bell the College years, so we have to let the show develop as it does. Honestly the Finn and Rachel inclusion in the play I found completely heart breaking and beautiful all at the same time. To me it served as a reminder to what got us to here as fans and respecting the shows roots.
dyane
November 16th, 2012 6:29 PM
The. Episode was good. The problem i am having is cant emotionally connect with the show anymore. For three seasons i cried with them,i laughed with them, i wanted at times to hug them, sometimes kick thier butts , and i rooted for them. I find myself watching now and unconsciously mumbling ,move on, really ? ,stupid, bored. Lol. I think the problem is that everything seemed forced on me. The relationships established right away,couples were formed, love triangles created. I had no time to like the new characters. I dont root for anything because its decided for me. I dont feel invested in them or the show any longer. It almost feels like a remake with different actors but same characters and story. We all know they usually fail. Murphy should have taken fans advice say good bye to glee and do the kurt blaine,rachel and finn spin off. He kept glee and created new normal. Think he blew it .
stateless
November 16th, 2012 4:07 PM
Ok, I really liked this one.
I liked how real the whole brody thing played out, because in real life, moving on too fast after a heartache, instead of actually taking the time to step back and think, can be a bad idea. And I like that it will give Rachel the time to grow up by and for herself as a woman, not as a part of a couple.
Darren and Chris were spot on as usual. My heart still hurts for Kurt and Blaine, but as for Santana and Brittany, it pointed the hurt and indecision and mixed feelings in the aftermarth of a break up where love itself is not the main issue.
The newbies are growing on me. One point, though: they'd better handle the whole eating disorder issue with care!
And finally, I like how the show makes fun of itself through Sue's rant about Finn-as-the-new-Shue.
TV!Garth Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2012 3:52 PM
Very interesting comments from everyone!Has our favorite show lost its way? I hope NOT! to begin with, Glee is about "music" and last night's episode had plenty of it, plus it all meant something!Kurt watching Blaine sing "Beauty School Dropout" was pure theater and I really liked the way all the characters, old and new" were added into the production rather seamlessly. I also disagree about the costuming...LOVED the "hair-do hair rollers!" Sugar did bring the wonderful and one-of-a-kind Didi Conn to mind, especially since she kept quiet-no way that Didi's unique voice was coming out of her, but the look was there! I'm no fan of Mr. Shue going away and I'm not sure that Finn has enough charisma to carry the show unless he has some sort of personality transplant? In closing I say that its FUN to see the graduates return every now and then, for whatever reason but the show should concentrate on McKinley High and keep the cast "fresh!" In the past, we readily accepted newcomers to the sch
Katya
November 16th, 2012 3:05 PM
By the way, did anyone else notice the error in the episode when Brittany is talking to Santana about how Unique's parents want him to be a boy? She calls Unique 'Mercedes'. Weird they didn't catch it!
Katya
November 16th, 2012 3:04 PM
I wish the NY people had their own spinoff too because I much prefer their story to the boring same ol' same ol' going on back at McKinley with all its repetitive manufactured angst. Is there a chance they could get their own show? Somehow the NY storylines feel far more real, intense, interesting and fresh. I guess I'm just bored with hearing 'sectionals' and 'regionals' and 'cheerios' and Sue Sylvester promising to rain on the Glee club's parade. It just feels like they're re-treading the same old ground.
I love how real it feels that the various couples didn't survive one part of the pairing moving away and changing, even though the best of intentions were there, and a lot of love. I want to see more of how Rachel and Kurt spread their wings. I'm not that interested in most of the other characters, although I do like Santana so would happily see more of her. The others, like Mike, Tina, Mercedes etc should fade away now.
By the way, did anyone else notice the error in the epis
nasne
November 16th, 2012 3:01 PM
@ Miranda Wicker, I also want to know what they are going to do with marley's weightloss story. My biggest problem however is not so much the story itself but the reaction of her mother. Marley is what.. a size tiny? If anything she could gain a bit of weight, not loose it. How can her mother respond to that saying lets go on a diet? How is that promoting glee the show that always says be proud of who you are no matter what.
Joe
November 16th, 2012 3:01 PM
The new kids have not spark one iota of interest in me.
And the problem with the NY side is they ARE NOT giving it enough time.
MrWriteSF Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2012 1:47 PM
To put some personal spin on what Suzanne and Meelo have posted, I'm finding this show a little too "ho hum." If the new cast members are just going to be new generations of the alumni characters, then this show has been reduced to a formula and you don't increase you audience--it merely turns over--like the cast. :-) Personally, I can only put up with blonde bitchy cheerleaders for so long before I lose interest. At the risk of revealing my general age, the TV series "Fame" (in retrospect, it could almost be considered "Glee 0.1") also added new characters from time to time and they were NEVER a v2.0 of departed characters.
As for following the alumni in their new lives, by definition, that wouldn't be "Glee." The fact that Mr. Schu has left (presumably so Morrison can pursue another project) already removes one aspect of the show that made it what it was.
Seriefreak
November 16th, 2012 12:25 PM
I actually enjoy the NY scenes more and always look forward to them. Last week when there was none, it felt like the most boring episode of the season and I didn't enjoy it. Yeah, a NY spin off would have been fine, because I notice I'm getting more annoyed with McKinkley every time. And the way old characters keep popping up simply annoys me. It's too forced. Which college student in their right mind would hang out in their old high school? I think it would have been better if they'd let the old characters go. This way the new characters would have had the opportunity to shine and I actually may have liked the ''new" McKinley. I mean, look at that scene with Marley and the other guy singing for a few seconds and then it's all Rachel and Finn again. It was their moment and the writers ruined it by letting the old characters take it over form them. Also, Sue annoys the hell out of me. It's always the same things over again with her.
Suzanne
November 16th, 2012 12:12 PM
To reiterate something I've posted before: If Glee is goign to have longevity, it should emulate Degrassi in the way it handles turnover. Degrassi has had a multitude of casts and they generally go the route of having relatively organic turnover - with some overlap and some continuity with "graduated" characters, but generally, there is momentum and a shift of focus to more junior characters, rather than lame attempts to continue following the alumni indefinitely.
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November 18th, 2012 10:21 PM
I really like the new season of glee. I think it is amazing and I agree with a lot of you guys this episode has been the best so far. I like the idea of Marley and Ryder together and I think it's great that Tina and Mike may consider each other. I like these couples because Marley and Ryder remind me of Rachel and Finn and since they're gone this is kind of like the mending bridge. I like Tina and Mike because it feels like we're getting back to the old glee. To be honest this season has been weird for me because it doesn't seem to glee like with the flashing back between New York and High school. I feel like the show is completely different. I think they need to give Rachel and kurt their own show because this is 'glee' and Rachel and Kurt aren't part of glee anymore. I think the new characters are being cheated and we aren't seeing enough of 'glee', which is supposed to be taken place in High school, because we are in New York.
Rank: Guest Star
November 18th, 2012 9:47 PM
You know I got to thinking about Santana playing Rizzo today as I was listening to the soundtrack. My high school basically had to do the same thing my junior year because the girl playing a major part in Hello Dolly dropped out about two weeks before the show opened. My friend was then given that roll but they needed someone to fill the dance spot my friend left open. Instead of rechoreographing and reteaching things that had been practicing for three months, the choreographer, a teacher much older than us, filled in. Luckily she was short and thin and could blend in easily in the big dance scenes.
November 18th, 2012 3:13 PM
I am loving the show as it is! I was actually kind of getting sick of the same glee-club restricted story and last season pretty much sucked. I absolutely love Rachel and Kurt, and Glee is not Glee without them! Who cares about the new characters (it is too soon to actually prefer them over any of the old gleeks),they have potential but they are not GLEE! It will take at least a season for me to get used to them! But I am in LOVE with Brody, him and Rachel are perfect! I am sure Cassandra is lying, it is quite obvious since they don't actually show anything happening between her and Brody!
November 18th, 2012 11:39 AM
I know a lot of people like Glee as is, this was the best episode this season so far. I love Grease and the music which helped. Glee was an exact copy to the movie-sets, costumes, mannerisms-but didn't have the enthusiasm like the movie. I'm glad Santana was Rizzo. Glad for the bit with Finn and Rachel singing Your the One that I Want. Not a fan of Kitty or Sue anymore. I wish they went with a spin off so we could see a NY flat shared by Santana, Rachel, Finn and Kurt-it could have been hilarious. But all we've got is drama and all couples broken up. I watch Glee for an escape from reality and enjoy great music. So far s4 has too much drama and top 40 music. I've Glee of the past which introduced all genres and eras of music to the public. Now it is what's on the radio. A drag to me. Acting is not as good too.
November 18th, 2012 11:25 AM
@Bob, I have wished for the same thing. A McKinley high school Glee and a spin off with the graduates and their new lives going into adulthood. IMO, they gelling well together into 1 show. There are fans of the show who favor one site over the other. IMO, Glee has not equalized time and story well between NY and McKinley. Besides, NY with Rachel and Kurt is so much more dramatic with little fun and seriously little music to enjoy. For me, I'm not connecting to McKinley with the new kids. Artie, Tina, Sam, Brit and Sugar are still background characters. I don't like the new. If Glee was separate shows, then better stories and more characters would be focused on. Glee needs more fun, funny, great music, classics, better dancing, performances. HS needs better acting
November 18th, 2012 11:24 AM
I recognized the sugar-frenchy resemblance and I'm only eleven an I've seen grease like five times! I still think that it's better without kurt and Rachel. I mean they could guest star on it SOMETIMES but they are SO annoying!
November 17th, 2012 5:40 PM
I honestly don't think Brody slept with the dance teacher. It's just way too out of character for him, from what we've seen of him. As juvenile as it would be, I will continue to believe that the dance teacher was lying and did something stupid like stole Brody's phone or realized he forgot it and failed to return it... I also don't understand why him being her TA requires them to dance together at night on a weekend...
I, too, am finding myself liking the new characters more and more with each week, and the old cast coming into it is starting to bother me. WHY did Finn call Santana to play Rizzo?! How is that even allowed?
November 17th, 2012 1:30 PM
I love glee no matter who is in it or not. i love the way things are going and its keeping me on my toes on whats up. im very curious to see what in the world is happening next episode artie looks like lex luther
November 17th, 2012 1:13 PM
I'd love for Ryan Murphy to make a new separate show for the old characters off in college. So for those who are truly interested in glee at McKinley high can just watch that and for those of us who love the old characters can just watch that. The old characters are off in college and have a different lifestyle, perhaps a better story plot way different from season 1-3 in McKinley. It'd be nice.
November 17th, 2012 8:54 AM
I am hating the switching between new and old characters. Rachel, Kurt, Mercedes et al have LEFT Glee club. Maybe the fact that I cannot stand Kurt or Rachel plays a big part in my feelings towards the new set up, I just really couldn't care less what happens with them anymore. Fair enough, they will still be mentioned by their friends, they will still come home from time to time (though seriously, who on earth flies all the way back to see a high school production??) I can deal with that but the show needs to move on from them.
The fact that they are so strongly included still is the reason that people are not connecting with the new cast, their stories are being pushed so quickly to make room for New York. The old characters have moved on, so should the show. Marley is adorable, and my eyes certainly wouldn't object to Jake being given more airtime.
November 17th, 2012 7:15 AM
@ Katya and Anna It was not an error. When Unique joins New Directions, Brittany tells Unique "That's a great haircut Mercedes. I thought you graduated." See for yourself here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQMVe439Myg. It was just a pun on Brittany not distinguishing Unique from Mercedes.
November 17th, 2012 4:31 AM
@Katia I noticed that too. Weird.
November 17th, 2012 4:29 AM
For first time I totally agree with all. They need to move on with the series even if we love Rachel and Kurt.
Rank: Recurring Character
November 16th, 2012 8:09 PM
But I love the original cast :(
Wish they had done the spin off so bad!
November 16th, 2012 6:29 PM
I thought this was the best episode of this season. I think they are doing a solid job of crossing the two worlds together. Its an almost impossible challenge. Glee is as much the high school and choir room as it is Rachel Berry and Kurt. I think eventually the New York story line could become its own show but for right now it needs to be contained in the regular show as people come to learn and grown fond of the new characters. It took 3 or 4 episodes when Glee first started to achieve that too. But I do believe it is happening with the new kids.
All high school based shows face this problem and it cant go the route of Saved by the Bell the College years, so we have to let the show develop as it does. Honestly the Finn and Rachel inclusion in the play I found completely heart breaking and beautiful all at the same time. To me it served as a reminder to what got us to here as fans and respecting the shows roots.
November 16th, 2012 6:29 PM
The. Episode was good. The problem i am having is cant emotionally connect with the show anymore. For three seasons i cried with them,i laughed with them, i wanted at times to hug them, sometimes kick thier butts , and i rooted for them. I find myself watching now and unconsciously mumbling ,move on, really ? ,stupid, bored. Lol. I think the problem is that everything seemed forced on me. The relationships established right away,couples were formed, love triangles created. I had no time to like the new characters. I dont root for anything because its decided for me. I dont feel invested in them or the show any longer. It almost feels like a remake with different actors but same characters and story. We all know they usually fail. Murphy should have taken fans advice say good bye to glee and do the kurt blaine,rachel and finn spin off. He kept glee and created new normal. Think he blew it .
November 16th, 2012 4:07 PM
Ok, I really liked this one.
I liked how real the whole brody thing played out, because in real life, moving on too fast after a heartache, instead of actually taking the time to step back and think, can be a bad idea. And I like that it will give Rachel the time to grow up by and for herself as a woman, not as a part of a couple.
Darren and Chris were spot on as usual. My heart still hurts for Kurt and Blaine, but as for Santana and Brittany, it pointed the hurt and indecision and mixed feelings in the aftermarth of a break up where love itself is not the main issue.
The newbies are growing on me. One point, though: they'd better handle the whole eating disorder issue with care!
And finally, I like how the show makes fun of itself through Sue's rant about Finn-as-the-new-Shue.
Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2012 3:52 PM
Very interesting comments from everyone!Has our favorite show lost its way? I hope NOT! to begin with, Glee is about "music" and last night's episode had plenty of it, plus it all meant something!Kurt watching Blaine sing "Beauty School Dropout" was pure theater and I really liked the way all the characters, old and new" were added into the production rather seamlessly. I also disagree about the costuming...LOVED the "hair-do hair rollers!" Sugar did bring the wonderful and one-of-a-kind Didi Conn to mind, especially since she kept quiet-no way that Didi's unique voice was coming out of her, but the look was there! I'm no fan of Mr. Shue going away and I'm not sure that Finn has enough charisma to carry the show unless he has some sort of personality transplant? In closing I say that its FUN to see the graduates return every now and then, for whatever reason but the show should concentrate on McKinley High and keep the cast "fresh!" In the past, we readily accepted newcomers to the sch
November 16th, 2012 3:05 PM
By the way, did anyone else notice the error in the episode when Brittany is talking to Santana about how Unique's parents want him to be a boy? She calls Unique 'Mercedes'. Weird they didn't catch it!
November 16th, 2012 3:04 PM
I wish the NY people had their own spinoff too because I much prefer their story to the boring same ol' same ol' going on back at McKinley with all its repetitive manufactured angst. Is there a chance they could get their own show? Somehow the NY storylines feel far more real, intense, interesting and fresh. I guess I'm just bored with hearing 'sectionals' and 'regionals' and 'cheerios' and Sue Sylvester promising to rain on the Glee club's parade. It just feels like they're re-treading the same old ground.
I love how real it feels that the various couples didn't survive one part of the pairing moving away and changing, even though the best of intentions were there, and a lot of love. I want to see more of how Rachel and Kurt spread their wings. I'm not that interested in most of the other characters, although I do like Santana so would happily see more of her. The others, like Mike, Tina, Mercedes etc should fade away now.
By the way, did anyone else notice the error in the epis
November 16th, 2012 3:01 PM
@ Miranda Wicker, I also want to know what they are going to do with marley's weightloss story. My biggest problem however is not so much the story itself but the reaction of her mother. Marley is what.. a size tiny? If anything she could gain a bit of weight, not loose it. How can her mother respond to that saying lets go on a diet? How is that promoting glee the show that always says be proud of who you are no matter what.
November 16th, 2012 3:01 PM
The new kids have not spark one iota of interest in me.
And the problem with the NY side is they ARE NOT giving it enough time.
Rank: Guest Star
November 16th, 2012 1:47 PM
To put some personal spin on what Suzanne and Meelo have posted, I'm finding this show a little too "ho hum." If the new cast members are just going to be new generations of the alumni characters, then this show has been reduced to a formula and you don't increase you audience--it merely turns over--like the cast. :-) Personally, I can only put up with blonde bitchy cheerleaders for so long before I lose interest. At the risk of revealing my general age, the TV series "Fame" (in retrospect, it could almost be considered "Glee 0.1") also added new characters from time to time and they were NEVER a v2.0 of departed characters.
As for following the alumni in their new lives, by definition, that wouldn't be "Glee." The fact that Mr. Schu has left (presumably so Morrison can pursue another project) already removes one aspect of the show that made it what it was.
November 16th, 2012 12:25 PM
I actually enjoy the NY scenes more and always look forward to them. Last week when there was none, it felt like the most boring episode of the season and I didn't enjoy it. Yeah, a NY spin off would have been fine, because I notice I'm getting more annoyed with McKinkley every time. And the way old characters keep popping up simply annoys me. It's too forced. Which college student in their right mind would hang out in their old high school? I think it would have been better if they'd let the old characters go. This way the new characters would have had the opportunity to shine and I actually may have liked the ''new" McKinley. I mean, look at that scene with Marley and the other guy singing for a few seconds and then it's all Rachel and Finn again. It was their moment and the writers ruined it by letting the old characters take it over form them. Also, Sue annoys the hell out of me. It's always the same things over again with her.
November 16th, 2012 12:12 PM
To reiterate something I've posted before: If Glee is goign to have longevity, it should emulate Degrassi in the way it handles turnover. Degrassi has had a multitude of casts and they generally go the route of having relatively organic turnover - with some overlap and some continuity with "graduated" characters, but generally, there is momentum and a shift of focus to more junior characters, rather than lame attempts to continue following the alumni indefinitely.