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Scandal Round Table: "Spies Like Us"

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Lies and spies! Scandal's latest episode featured them both in spades, as "Spies Like Us" focused on Olivia saving a team of former CIA operatives from one of its own.

Join the TV Fanatic Round Table - staff writers Carla Day, Leigh Raines, Jim Garner and Miranda Wicker, along with Emily from ABC Scandal Fans - as we discuss the most recent developments from this fun ABC series. Pull up a virtual chair and chime in yourself below...

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What was your favorite scene from "Spies Like Us?"
Carla: When Olivia dropped her strong facade and jumped into Edison's arms. She needs to let people in and stop trying to be there for everyone else by not accepting help and love herself.

Leigh: When Quinn dropped her coffee cup and we saw the Reservoir Dogs-style standoff. Insane!!

Jim: Watching Harrison "Balls of Steel" Wright confront six former assassins and actually get them to lower their weapons. I would be shaking afterwards, too!

Miranda: Harrison getting the spies to lower their weapons was awesome. And Harrison's mannerisms as he backed out of the room were slightly comical. He was just all "okay then...carry on..." and then his shaking hands? Yeah, Harrison's scene.

Emily: I’ve got to go with the scene with Harrison and Olivia (Livisson). I hoped that Harrison would assume the confidante role with Olivia and he definitely stepped into that spot in this scene! In Scanal season 1, Stephen was the one who seemed to keep Liv grounded, the one who intuitively knew when she needed reeling in or when she needed help even if she wouldn’t ask for it. The emotion between Harrison and Liv in this scene was amazing!  Even when she’s still trying to protect everyone from knowing too much by getting involved, Harrison really proved himself by stepping up.

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Do you think Harrison will stay as loyal to Olivia as he was in this episode?
Carla: Yes. At least at this point, there's no reason not to believe it.

Leigh: Yes. I think it rattles him a little at times, but as he said he's not her work, he's her friend.

Jim: He's never shown any sign otherwise. From the moment he met Quinn in the bar, he has been 100% about Olivia's cause.

Miranda: I'll be the dissenting voice and say that while Harrison will probably always be Team Olivia, I saw hints of him questioning himself for hurting Abby so she'd break up with David. I think questioning himself could lead to him questioning Olivia and his loyalty to her cause.

Emily: Yes, I do! He’s her Gladiator in a Suit. All season, no matter what the others have said or accused her of, Harrison has come to her defense. It must have been painful for him to betray Abby like he did – one of his best friends – but he did it because Olivia said it needed to happen and he trusts her. He confirmed it with his speech to Quinn in episode 4.

Did you have any sympathy for Huck and the spies from B-613?
Carla: Yes, they were used by the government and turned into killing machines. At the same time, they all seem to have adjusted to a normal life except Huck. Perhaps, he needs to move on and enjoy life outside of the cruel gladiator world to truly be free and happy.

Leigh: Yes. They were products of intense government mind training. They were essentially brainwashed. Most of them have tried to have normal lives. Charlie skeeves me out tho.

Jim: Being former military I do. The training sticks with you. I can't imagine what Huck must go through to try and shut it out.

Miranda: I loved every bit of Huck's speech about wanting normal and not knowing exactly what normal was but knowing that if they killed the mole, they jeopardized finding normal. And then my heart broke as he just sat there while the other spies cleaned up. So yeah, I was sympathetic.

Emily: Absolutely. I think Carla, Jim and Leigh said it all!

Will James stay away from Hollis, or do you think he'll smell a rat and follow the trail?
Carla: Hmm ... interesting question. Not sure. He seemed to fall right into Cyrus's trap to drop the issue. But, if something comes up in the future, he'll be all over it.

Leigh: I think James will stay away for now.

Jim: I think Cyrus played him exactly like he needed to. His new ordering or telling James to stop would only make him try harder. But make it look like he wants to to continue, even if it cost him his job? He knew James would back off.

Miranda: I think James is nowhere near done with following this story. If anything, I think Cyrus asking him to stop will spark him to investigate more, only obviously without Cyrus knowing about it.

Emily: I definitely think James will continue to follow this story.  He may take a more indirect approach and fly under the radar for a bit, but I definitely don’t think Cyrus got to him with that story in the Oval Office. I think James knew he was being played a bit. Think back to “The Trail” in season 1 when James was in the press corps and Cyrus through him off the bus for writing about the alleged affair Mellie was having! James has more backbone than that!

With all the destruction Olivia has caused, does she deserve to be happy?
Carla: Not sure. I agree that she's caused destruction. Is she the cause? Or, is she a victim? You could say she that she's a protector. For example, she may have lied to break up Abby and David, but she did it to save their lives. If they continued on the path they were on, they would have been killed. Regardless of her methods, she deserves to be happy.

Leigh: Yes. However, she indulges in certain situations that aren't right and there are consequences for that.

Jim: Olivia still wears the white hat. It might be tinged with grey here and there, but all her actions are for the best. Even breaking up David and Abby was to save their lives. So she could use a little happiness.

Miranda: I definitely think she deserves a little happiness in her life. I think her actions are for the greater good and we just don't know what that greater good is yet.

Emily: Olivia definitely deserves to be happy. Even though a lot of the "destruction" she has caused has hurt people, especially those she is close to, I believe that once everything comes out we’ll understand why she did what she did. Like Olivia told Cyrus in regard to James’ article about Hollis: “In the long run it saves his life. You do what needs to be done no matter what.”

Miranda Wicker is a Staff Writer for TV Fanatic. Follow her on Twitter.

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    I really wish we had more WH scenes. The storylines and the characters there are much stronger and a lot more interesting. The stuff with OPA is okay but I'm not tuning it for that. I hope we get to see more of the East Sudan stuff unfolding, Hollis is up to no good there and every where! And where is Sally Langston? And please, please, PLEASE, no more Fitz absences, he's been badly missed.

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    Well all of us knows that relationship with Ed is just FILLER.

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    When it comes to Harrison it all depends bc we all know what Harrison's greatest fear is (going back to jail) If it comes to that I want to see what he'll do at that point.
    I have great sympathy for the spies bc how can you really untrained something like that which has been drilled into you for years. Yeah what is normal? The other spies lives are so "normal" that it makes you wonder sometimes about real life and those around you but I'm straying :)
    James knows Cyrus well enough and I think he's going to research this under the radar so to speak especially if this story can be his biggest scoop.
    Indeed Liv deserves to be happy but I'm wondering how she got sucked into this mess in the first place. Why do I feel there is someone else involved that maybe only Hollis knows about. More needs to come out before I can judge this situation wholly. As for Liv sometimes you need to some horrible stuff to save someone's life and she's experienced.

    Miranda-wicker

    @retiredTVviewer--That's a trademark of the show's creator, Shonda Rhimes. Sections of dialogue are actually timed and when they're not fast enough, they're reshot until they're faster. It's awesome and sometimes maddening, so I watch with subtitles.

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    1. All Harrison scenes. He did a wonder job on this episode. We got to see his assertiveness and how he is a valuable OP team member.
    2. Yes – Harrison has voiced/ shown his support for Olivia especially when her team (Abby, Quinn) have questioned Olivia’s actions. Although I gotta admit he looked somewhat uncomfortable having to blackmail David’s wife into lying to Abby. I guess he has a hard time ‘playing dirty’.
    3. Yes – Looks like being a former spy and trying to adjust to ‘normal’ life is not easy.
    4. James is not staying away from Hollis story. Since David circled the article James wrote, David will contact James with what information he has on Hollis and James being a reporter will start digging for information. I have a feeling that one of them; James, Hollis or David is going to die soon over this.
    5. Yes she deserves to be happy. I don’t view what she has done as destructive but more fixing them and trying to save their lives in the process. So I think the end justifies the means in this case.

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    Why is the dialog so fast in this show - I love the show but can not keep up with what the actors are saying.

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    The standoff was amazing! Also amazing was when she just shot the mole. For a second, I foolishly believed that Huck could calm them all down, but she did it so quick and it was just over. And then they all knew what to do to clean up! Absolutely incredible. I hope Fitz is in the next episode! These last two without him were rough.

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    -Tough. I love spy stuff so the intro to each spy was cool. So was the standoff and the cleaning up of the crimes fend. I also really, really loved the Livisson and Oluck friendship moments. With Steven gone Olivia really is missing out on her best friend. She's been closer to Huck and now closer to Harrison.
    - I don't see anything that would suggest otherwise.
    - Absolutely!! I cannot imagine what it is like for them to be asked to do these reprehensible things and then expected to go back to normal afterwards. To not have long lasting effects and scars. Loved huvk speech.
    - James and David are like dogs with bones.
    - that move with David was rough. Yes. She's never not faced repercussions for her actions. Sometimes she does bad things for the right reasons and to protect others. It has to account for something.




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