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by hating what she is, she wants to repress her new nature, and that means that when she slips up and gives in, she loses control and becomes a Ripper. If she accepts it and DEALS WITH IT (strange for Elena, I know) then she could probably cope a lot better than she currently is.
Damon's teaching methods are probably not the best, however. Maybe if he had approached it differently, it could have worked, but it just didn't. I would honestly say Stefan was right in suggesting Caroline. She is, in Stefan's words, good at being a vampire. She had the moments of lost control, so for Elena to say she wouldn't understand is not true. I think she would be far better at helping Elena to deal than either of the brothers, just because she's kind of the middle ground between them.
I would also like to add tht I was extremely happy to see Elijah in this episode!
I needed some time to figure out how to put it into words, but I think I have finally grasped my feelings of the whole Stefan/Elena/Damon thing tonight. Stefan automatically assumes that she will flip her switch after she kills. Who is to say she will? Maybe she'll want to keep her humanity to remember how it felt so she won't do it again. Maybe she'll be better able to deal with it than Stefan expects. Maybe she'll be able to control herself and won't kill at all. She'll be the vampire anomaly. Whatever happens, if he treats her like she's fragile, that's all she'll ever be.
I think Damon's approach is much better here. Teaching her how to enjoy what she is and not spend an eternity feeling sorry for herself is what she really needs. What kind of existence will she have if she keeps feeling disgusted by who she now is? She needs to embrace and accept it, and I think that is one thing Damon got right: if she revels in it (or at least tries to accept it), she can control it. By hating
I was really disappointed by this episode, to be honest. Looking at the cure as a whole, they should have waited on that. The way they did it now makes it feel like a cop-out. They just can't stick with the decision to make Elena a vampire, they have to backtrack like everything else. If the cure had been introduced further into the season, I may have been more receptive to it as a storyline, because the idea itself is awesome. It just feels like the show has some magical fix for everything and I wish it didn't. So the main character has to go through a struggle to adapt to vampire life. Let her go through the struggle, don't introduce a magical fix to take the problem away. I want to see Elena GROW, because she remains the only character on this show who has not undergone some kind of change until this point. The way this played out has me kind of hoping the cure was just a lie by Alexander to ensure Rebekah trusted him.
Feeling lukewarm about "The Five", still it was a pretty good episode overall. There were so many great moments, but the thing that sticks out most in my mind is how great Elijah looked back in the day (WOW!). I like Stefan and Elena- just not together, they seem to bring each other down. I like Klaus, Rebekah and Stefan together, they were probably so awesome in the 20's. I am sure that Damon has an agenda all his own, because that is the Damon we all know and love, BUT I think he has the best feeding plan for Elena since bunnies and blood bags are not doing the trick. The Damon School of Feeding seems to be her best bet and she is being whiny and ungrateful. She treats Damon like crap and then she will run back to him when it suits her. Her little after party fit was totally Elena, but still disappointing. Her character is so frustratingly stale, she's almost as bad as Bonnie.
I love Stefan, he's adorable, he cares, to me his Prince Charming. He put everybody before him self, and in this episode he thought about him self for a second and I loved him for that. I think him and klaus have a great connection, maybe because they have a past but I love there keeping this secret together. Remember that episode when Stefan meet klaus and Stefan understand him. Sometime Stefan can be very boring but when he in action I just love him. Instead killing people, like Damon would, he find another way just by being there and talking. I don't think his a coward, I think smart, he has plan. Am over the whole love triangle. I want Stefan to explore more possibility.
This season is such a great comeback from last season's dead end stories about the Originals. I'm definitely loving this new goal and the intertwining stories between all the old and new characters. I was a little bit hesitant about the cure, but then again this being TVD, I have a feeling that there will be a twist by the end of all this with Elena not getting the cure...We'll have to wait and see. Fanastic episode!
Sigh, I was highly disappointed with the episode. The only charaters that I really am interested in these days are Caroline, Tyler and Damon. Why oh why must they make the rest of them so incredibly dumb? (I miss Alaric also) Comments on other sites reflected a general disappointment in the hype about a significant turn of events in the triangle. I have been thinking about that. We just sort of assumed that there would be some breakthrough in the relationship between Elena and Damon, for the better. After some consideration, I think there may be been but not in the direction that many of us would like. Last night she demonstrated her general lack of appreciation for the survival lesssons she has been receiving from Damon, which seem to be anchored in practicality in my opinion. His last words were "She's all yours". Perhaps the change Julie Plec referred to is a turning away of Damon from "miss thing". If he were a real person she would have been cut loose along time ago for her shitty
Fans of the books have probably just like me seen some connection of course from the previous seasons to the books, but this cure made me think about Stefan being locked up in a cell in the Dark Dimension after being lured by Damon (who was infected with some kind of malach) and Sinichi (a kitsune)to go to Shi no Shi for a cure to make him human again.
1.I love Elijah!
2. Elena actually told Stefan what she really thought, how refreshing
3. Why did Bonnie had to interrupt the scene between Damon and Elena dancing? Again, it was very refreshing to see Elena somehow not all uptight.
4. WTH?! I want to know MORE about professor Shane, that smirk was so badass.
5. Connor is so strong.
6. Rebekah and her fifth dude from the olden days was so cute together. I actually hope she finds someone, so she can be a bit less bitchy.
7. Why does Damon always have to come interrupting Elena when she says something bad about him (sort of)?
8. Klaus's hybrid annoyed me.
9. The Vampire Diaries always know how to deliver, seriously.
10. CAN WE PLEASE HAVE SOME HOT VAMP SEX ALREADY?! I'm desperate for some Stelena action (and some Delena action, by all means).
I was so glad to see Elijah in this episode! It just makes the show a lil bit more tolerable. You know, the more I watch Elena, the more I am convinced she does not deserve any brother - she is just so dull.
episode was great but didnt like what happen to rebakh... stephan should have done something.....
This episode was great! The fact the Elena wants to be nothing like Damon and hopefully won't be is so awesome. And Stefan hoping to turn Elena and himself human again and get married and have babies is so great! There is now hope again in the show and I really do believe those 2 belong together forever. Damon is such an ass for trying to get Elena to be with him on the dark side. He very well knows her and knows she would be devastated if she hurts people, yet he doesn't care at all. He just wants her all to himself and it's such BS. I hope Elena can hold on to her humanity just like Caroline did and be with Stefan.
@Bill and R.
We are slamming Stefan because he is an idiotic little shit.
"Elena's gonna kill someone, and then she's gonna grieve and then turn it off and we'll lose her forever" - Something along those lines. Ummmm, CAROLINE killed someone, Rebekah killed someone, Rose and Lexie most likely killed someone, Bonnie's mother fed, is a vampire, and has things under control! They ALL have things under control and have not turned off the switch!
Both Stefan and Damon, those dumb fagatore brothers, are pegging vampires into either "super predatory" or "vegetarians" when there's ample amounts of vampires that are in the middle. Nothing was wrong with what she did at the party in fact she's getting better at it, it's only Stefan feeding her this garbage that she might become a ripper like his pathetic ass or like Damon that's scaring her.
It's illogical, annoying, and inconsistent.
@Team Damon, you can't possibly be that naive. Everything that Damon is doing now in teaching Elena to be a "proper" vampire is his way of driving a wedge between her and Damon and drawing her closer to him. He is thinking of only one person - himself. He is a bitter black hearted jerk who wants to destroy any humanity that might still remain in Elena so that she will turn away from Stefan and want to be with him. I'm sure you can't wait to see Elena and Damon have hot vampire sex. But for me, that will be the end of the road. Elena will just become Katherine, or actually, a darker version of her. I have no interst in seeing that.
@SMS,I couldn't agree with you more. I get sick of all the crap thrown at Stefan because he wants to do the right thing. A coward? What a joke!! The guy was willing to give up everything to save his brother and allowed Klaus to turn him into the kind of vampire he despises the most. Now he has on the verge of lostingthe woman he loves to that same brother. Having Elena feed onhumans is just another way that Damon can drive the wedge deeper betwen her and Stefan and draw her closer to him. He's a complete a**hole and the day he and Elena become a couple or even hook up will end my following of this show. That would complete Elena's move to the dark side and she will then be just a clone of Katherine. I see nothing entertaining about that.
LOVED Stefan's 50 Shades comment, lol! And someone said Rebekah mentions a 50 shades line, too. What did she say? I missed it.
I liked the Rave/dance scene between Damon and Elena. (Btw: Who else has a beef, that Elena didn't knock that girl's rufie-laden drink out of her hand? She should have!) And I thought she overdramatized about letting her guard down and having too much fun with Damon, jeez! Wtf?! You are not allowed to have ANY fun with ANYONE other than Stefan?! Damon nailed it when he said: 'She didn't do anything wrong, she was having fun'. Elena feels guilty that she was feeling too close to Damon, is what it was, he IS her Maker..they are gonna have a bit closer connection just due to that! I can't wait for those two to get together! And...I LOVED Klaus in long hair! HOT!! Also: the whole cure possibility will be interesting. Wonder if that'll happen anytime in this show? Anyway: did anyone stop to think that a cure might wither all the old vampires into bones, when they turn human? I'm gonna have to read these books, soon! Great ep, can't wait for next week!
I loved this episode! It was so great!
We all know that Elena will choose Damon before the season is over. I am team Stelena all the way but seeing Nina and Ian dancing together you can tell they have tons of sexual chemistry, which probably has lots to do with the fact they are a couple in real life.
I knew there was something off with Professor Creepy (as Damon called him). It will be interesting to find out more about how he and Connor know each other. I also like that Klaus and Stefan are working together for something good....eventhough I think Klaus will betray them all in the end, which I hope not as I like the idea of there being a cure! I think that would be a fantastic way to end the series having Stefan and Elena become human again, get married and have babies!
There was not one moment of this episode that I did not enjoy!
Matt had a couple funny lines and as always Damon did too! Withcepedia!!!
Am I the only one who was actually proud of how Elena fed? She didn't hurt anyone! What's the harm in any of that! She had fun, she ate like she HAS to, she didn't hurt anyone. She's just freaking out because she has much more fun with damon than stefan.
I hate that she hates how she likes damon (makes sense?) I don't want it to be that way. I want her to see the good in him, not think of herself as a horrible person. Damon does nothing wrong he never kills when feeding!!! This is ridiculous, give the dude a break!
Am I the only one who thinks that Stefans speech about " I will cure myself to die alongside my one true love" isn´t this sweet.
seriously I think all the vampires in the show and yes even Damon or the originals would love to become human again. I think its rather selfish of Stefan....and at the end it will be probably Damon turning human.
@SMS - Stefan a coward?! Are you freakin' serious. He ALLOWED Klaus to take Jeremy....appparently you have memory loss. Because you would realize that Klaus could stomp on Stefan like a bug if he wanted to. Stop being stupid.
People are so mean in regards to Stefan. What should he do about Klaus and the knowledge about the cure? Go against Klaus? Cause that has worked so well in the past. He's desperate to find it and 'save' Elena. He will work with the devil if he has to...because he still has guilt over letting her die.
People just want Elena to become Katherine. We can't have 2 Katherine's on this show...it would be silly.
Speaking of things related to the "Rainbow"
Why would klaus have Conner bound to the rack with no shirt on ? lol...thats just a tad fruity in my book...And yeah i get that Jeremy needed to see all the tats,but still !! He could of had a shirt on then Klaus could of tore it off once Jer was in front of him....It just kinda looked like a gay sexual torture chamber when Klaus opened up those doors.
I know this will sound gay but did anyone notice how clean shaven the chests of the five were. You could really tell that whoever wrote and directed this episode were real idiots. No one in the twelfth century shaved their chests. Its so ridic. No wonder CW shows are held with such low regard.
I do like that they are bring this cure storyline which is similar to the book with the whole kitsune and that flower thing that can be eaten to cure VAMPIRISM.
Forgot to mention earlier: maybe Stefan thinks he can outwit Klaus and plans to use the Cure on that Original as well, so he wouldn't be a threat to Saint Elena anymore.
But if that's really the plan ... I'm already worried on whom it will backfire!
Elena..Elena..Elena!!! always whines.You are a vampire now, just get yourself over to it. I really like the whole idea of flashbacks. Originals are way better than whining elena. I miss caroline, she is pleasant.Stefan made a big mistake.He shouldn't made a deal with klaus.Overall,i'm looking forward to the whole concept of cure.
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