Henri Blanche Rank: New User
December 3rd, 2012 12:44 PM
I predicted way back in season two that the show would end with Dexter dying and his sister avenging him and taking over the vigilante business, complete with Dexter talking to her in her mind the same way that Harry talks to Dexter in his mind. Now with Dexter loosening his code, falling for a questionable woman, becoming a less involved father and stepfather... perhaps the show is starting to try to make him increasingly unlikeable so when the time comes to finally kill off the show's titular character we won't be quite so shocked.
Just my two cents.
viewer
December 3rd, 2012 11:44 AM
I think the reviewer missed the point of the realization that Dexter's Dark Passenger isn't a separate identity of himself. Yes, the show has never treated Dexter as a split personality, but Dexter has always blamed the Dark Passenger for his need to kill. A person can struggle to fit in with society due to forces outside of the person's control, so while he has always struggled to fit in, he still placed the blame on his Dark Passenger. Dexter has always thought of the Dark Passenger as something inside of him that he cannot control. Now that he has fully realized that his need to kill is his own need that is within his control, not some outside force living inside him, he can own his need, and he will not have to be bound by Harry's code. He has already started, by killing Hannah's father. I believe Dexter abandoning Harry's code will be a springboard into the end of the series.
Vammie
December 3rd, 2012 9:57 AM
I am guessing this revelation that Dexter had leads him to go rogue from the code (which has already started) and will eventually lead to his arrest or death. Isn't Dexter ending next season? I am guessing by the end of this season he will go completely rogue and next season is all about capturing him. Also I am guessing the whole Hanna's dad thing is a trap by Hanna to make Dexter do the dirty job, because she knows he can get away with it but she can't. 'Cos Deb is snooping around her.
Adi
December 3rd, 2012 8:55 AM
And now that Dexter unleashed his strict code, and can now kill whoever he likes or wants, how does it make him different than any other murderer? It certainly doesn't make him better than Hannah. But maybe it does make him human.
I think it makes me like Dexter less.
So now, who is safe from Dexter's wrath? We all have a bad side, does that mean we all deserve to die?
We'll find out next!
Adi
December 3rd, 2012 8:46 AM
well, up until now I think the only times Dexter killed a person that wasn't a murderer was by mistake or by loss of control. And that fact made us viewers consider Dexter a good person- he kills only the ones who will kill again, even if it is not the main reason he kills. Throughout the show we recognize Dexters' conscience. We usually were settled with the victims' deaths, kind of like saying to ourselves "they deserved it". At this episode Dexter decides to kill Hannah's father, who killed no one, but threatens Hannah's quality of life, but not her life itself. As I see it, Dexter kills her father for his own sake- Dexter doesn't want Hannah to be in prison- leaving him alone. And apparently Dexter really loves Hannah, and wants to protect her. But she is a murderer, doesn't she deserve prison? Or a life haunted by her father? Doesn't it make Dexter bad that he killed a person who didn't kill anyone else just because he wants to?
And now that Dexter unleashed his strict code, and
lillym
December 3rd, 2012 7:51 AM
Liked the episode, Hannah knew exactly what Dexter was talking about....waste of a killing since he still called Deb and told her. LaGuerta closing in Dexter maybe she's going to be his next kill....she's connecting the dots it's fascinating to see her do that, trying to clear her friends name. And yes, best thing for Dexter so far this season, Hannah. She calms him. Next two episodes are going to be very interesting, can't wait!
Liz
December 3rd, 2012 7:20 AM
I liked this episode. Definitely not only 3 stars for me.
I liked it because it centered around Dex and Hannah. And they are for sure the best couple this show's ever seen.
Unlike the recapper, I thought Dexter did realize something new in this episode: that his need to kill isn't a need. It is a decision, a decision HE makes.
Is there anyone at Miami Metro that hasn't compromised who they are yet? Deb for Dexter, Batista for Quinn, Masuka with whats-her-name that took the hand,and so on. I'm surprised still that Louis' death or disappearance hasn't even come up yet. While I can understand why Dexter sees something in Hannah, I could care less about her character. Just around to create tension between Deb and Dex. Neither of them exactly have the best track record for relationships. I still see her as a threat to Dexter. How many others has she fallen for that are still around to talk? Isaak was a strong storyline compared to the Phantom Arsonist. His death was so boring. Would've been nice to have him around to keep Dexter on his toes with all the cat and mouse stuff they were doing.
wolfshades
December 3rd, 2012 12:09 AM
I kind of got the sense that Hannah knew full well what Dexter was too chicken to say. Her absolute relief over the fact that *obviously* her dad won't be back to bother her sort of signaled that.
Another thing: that "code" that Dexter no longer feels the need to follow (now that he's acknowledged that he doesn't have a Dark Passenger and merely wants to kill people) was never that strong to begin with. He's murdered people before, who later turned out not to be quite the murderers he thought they were - and merely shrugged it off. "Oh well."
I liked the episode though. Even though I'm a little confused about why Hannah's father gave her up the night before he supposedly struck his deal. Artistic plot license?
Neil
December 3rd, 2012 12:04 AM
@ZJWurt:
There was never really ANY doub t that Victor was his lover... it was blatantly obvious...
ZJWurt
December 2nd, 2012 10:28 PM
I thought that Hannah figured out by the way Dexter was speaking. For me, I felt like Hannah realized Dexter killed her father, which is why she said I love you, because he got rid of that part of her life. I feel like this is going to turn into "Is Victor his lover or his son" again, with no one knowing until later in the season. Or series, since we have two episodes left, and I feel like Hannah isn't going to pull a Lumen on us. Other than that, I loved this episode, and can't wait to see how it'll end.
Dexter : Don't be sorry your darkness is gone. I'll carry if for you - always. I'll keep it with mine,
Rank: New User
December 3rd, 2012 12:44 PM
I predicted way back in season two that the show would end with Dexter dying and his sister avenging him and taking over the vigilante business, complete with Dexter talking to her in her mind the same way that Harry talks to Dexter in his mind. Now with Dexter loosening his code, falling for a questionable woman, becoming a less involved father and stepfather... perhaps the show is starting to try to make him increasingly unlikeable so when the time comes to finally kill off the show's titular character we won't be quite so shocked.
Just my two cents.
December 3rd, 2012 11:44 AM
I think the reviewer missed the point of the realization that Dexter's Dark Passenger isn't a separate identity of himself. Yes, the show has never treated Dexter as a split personality, but Dexter has always blamed the Dark Passenger for his need to kill. A person can struggle to fit in with society due to forces outside of the person's control, so while he has always struggled to fit in, he still placed the blame on his Dark Passenger. Dexter has always thought of the Dark Passenger as something inside of him that he cannot control. Now that he has fully realized that his need to kill is his own need that is within his control, not some outside force living inside him, he can own his need, and he will not have to be bound by Harry's code. He has already started, by killing Hannah's father. I believe Dexter abandoning Harry's code will be a springboard into the end of the series.
December 3rd, 2012 9:57 AM
I am guessing this revelation that Dexter had leads him to go rogue from the code (which has already started) and will eventually lead to his arrest or death. Isn't Dexter ending next season? I am guessing by the end of this season he will go completely rogue and next season is all about capturing him. Also I am guessing the whole Hanna's dad thing is a trap by Hanna to make Dexter do the dirty job, because she knows he can get away with it but she can't. 'Cos Deb is snooping around her.
December 3rd, 2012 8:55 AM
And now that Dexter unleashed his strict code, and can now kill whoever he likes or wants, how does it make him different than any other murderer? It certainly doesn't make him better than Hannah. But maybe it does make him human.
I think it makes me like Dexter less.
So now, who is safe from Dexter's wrath? We all have a bad side, does that mean we all deserve to die?
We'll find out next!
December 3rd, 2012 8:46 AM
well, up until now I think the only times Dexter killed a person that wasn't a murderer was by mistake or by loss of control. And that fact made us viewers consider Dexter a good person- he kills only the ones who will kill again, even if it is not the main reason he kills. Throughout the show we recognize Dexters' conscience. We usually were settled with the victims' deaths, kind of like saying to ourselves "they deserved it". At this episode Dexter decides to kill Hannah's father, who killed no one, but threatens Hannah's quality of life, but not her life itself. As I see it, Dexter kills her father for his own sake- Dexter doesn't want Hannah to be in prison- leaving him alone. And apparently Dexter really loves Hannah, and wants to protect her. But she is a murderer, doesn't she deserve prison? Or a life haunted by her father? Doesn't it make Dexter bad that he killed a person who didn't kill anyone else just because he wants to?
And now that Dexter unleashed his strict code, and
December 3rd, 2012 7:51 AM
Liked the episode, Hannah knew exactly what Dexter was talking about....waste of a killing since he still called Deb and told her. LaGuerta closing in Dexter maybe she's going to be his next kill....she's connecting the dots it's fascinating to see her do that, trying to clear her friends name. And yes, best thing for Dexter so far this season, Hannah. She calms him. Next two episodes are going to be very interesting, can't wait!
December 3rd, 2012 7:20 AM
I liked this episode. Definitely not only 3 stars for me.
I liked it because it centered around Dex and Hannah. And they are for sure the best couple this show's ever seen.
Unlike the recapper, I thought Dexter did realize something new in this episode: that his need to kill isn't a need. It is a decision, a decision HE makes.
Rank: Extra
December 3rd, 2012 5:47 AM
Is there anyone at Miami Metro that hasn't compromised who they are yet? Deb for Dexter, Batista for Quinn, Masuka with whats-her-name that took the hand,and so on. I'm surprised still that Louis' death or disappearance hasn't even come up yet. While I can understand why Dexter sees something in Hannah, I could care less about her character. Just around to create tension between Deb and Dex. Neither of them exactly have the best track record for relationships. I still see her as a threat to Dexter. How many others has she fallen for that are still around to talk? Isaak was a strong storyline compared to the Phantom Arsonist. His death was so boring. Would've been nice to have him around to keep Dexter on his toes with all the cat and mouse stuff they were doing.
December 3rd, 2012 12:09 AM
I kind of got the sense that Hannah knew full well what Dexter was too chicken to say. Her absolute relief over the fact that *obviously* her dad won't be back to bother her sort of signaled that.
Another thing: that "code" that Dexter no longer feels the need to follow (now that he's acknowledged that he doesn't have a Dark Passenger and merely wants to kill people) was never that strong to begin with. He's murdered people before, who later turned out not to be quite the murderers he thought they were - and merely shrugged it off. "Oh well."
I liked the episode though. Even though I'm a little confused about why Hannah's father gave her up the night before he supposedly struck his deal. Artistic plot license?
December 3rd, 2012 12:04 AM
@ZJWurt:
There was never really ANY doub t that Victor was his lover... it was blatantly obvious...
December 2nd, 2012 10:28 PM
I thought that Hannah figured out by the way Dexter was speaking. For me, I felt like Hannah realized Dexter killed her father, which is why she said I love you, because he got rid of that part of her life. I feel like this is going to turn into "Is Victor his lover or his son" again, with no one knowing until later in the season. Or series, since we have two episodes left, and I feel like Hannah isn't going to pull a Lumen on us. Other than that, I loved this episode, and can't wait to see how it'll end.