Glee Review: Don't Dream It's Over Comments (Page 3)
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Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
December 7th, 2012 11:04 AM
@Fatin--the decision to break the "fourth wall" was a very deliberate one on Murphy's and the writers' parts, I think. They anticipated the backlash from the Brittany/Sam pairing and addressed it in hopes of the internet not imploding on itself this morning. Whether or not that worked, I'm not sure. I think an occasional break of that barrier between screen and living rooms, when well done, is a cheeky way for a show to acknowledge that its viewers are there. I liked it.
xandrew
December 7th, 2012 10:55 AM
Sky! do you not remember the death threats Kevin and Grant got for getting in the way of Brittana and Klaine? In that regard, there is some legitimacy. It's very clear to me that the reason the gay couples get less screen time is because of the networks. If you look at the what gay couples are allowed to do and what straight couples are allowed to do you will always see discrepancies. Consider what having a gay couple that doesn't have as much romantic attraction looks like from both sides. If they don't kiss enough, we liberal gay-lovers (me included) get angry, and just by existing the conservative douch-bags get angry. It's a lose/lose for them to deliberately write them that way. The only conclusion I can come up with for why a gay writer/director/producer would have such a discrepancy is that they want to have gay characters and they want to show them being as "normal" as possible, but can't because of some arbitrary rules set forth by the family-first bitch slapped network execut
Sky
December 7th, 2012 10:31 AM
(cont of my previous post) One could say it's just a show, but Glee holds itself up as this show that is "inspirational" and "sends good messages." So it makes it all the worse. I feel sorry for young gay/bi/questioning girls who only have Glee as their support. What a slap in the face that "hilarious" and "clever" meta must have been.
Sky
December 7th, 2012 10:30 AM
The fact that so many reviewers, with the exception of the flawless Dr. She Bloggo, are completely missing the point as to why people are upset about the way the Bram storyline was handled baffles me. And it isn't just Brittana fans who are upset. Personally, I'm not a fan of either character or their relationship. The issue isn't the pairing itself - after all, Brit is bisexual and single. I think we (Brittana fans included) all understand this. It's the double-standard that exists on this show. The heteronormative couples get more screentime and intimate scenes in comparison to the queer couples. The meta in "Swan Song" exacerbates the problem - painting anyone who has had legitimate criticism over these double standards - as "angry lesbian bloggers" who are prone to violence. It promotes the idea of heterophobia, which is exactly what the LGBT community DOES NOT need. One could say it's just a show, but Glee holds itself up as this show that is "inspirational" and "sends good messag
But my favorite part of this episode was when Rachel said, i know I won't be as good as a dancer as you, but I'm a better singer.
Rachel brought the house down. She showed everyone how amazing she is.
I wish we could have seen Cassandra's reaction to her singing.
I was disappointed that Santana didn“t get to fight with Kitty more, maybe throw a punch at Quinn for good measure.
I loved Brittany and Sam together. They fit so well. Sam adores her, and seems to put her feelings first, unlike Santana who broke up with her and didn't even give her an option.
I wish they could put more Sebastian and Hunter, they were so funny, and Sexy, and they made things entertaining, and sexy
actually quite liked this episode.
We got Rachel from season 1 one back with a bang. she showed her love for performing and how she really cares about Glee Club.
Tina was really bitchy, she kept calling off Marley for not being the New Rachel, but isnt Blaine the new one?
bobby
December 7th, 2012 9:23 AM
Marley wasn't trying to be the new rachel berry I like that she isn't anything like rachel her voice is amazing and not annoying like rachel and everything doesn't have to revolve around her all the time and as for sam and brittany they can have their little romance for now but in the end I want brittana together ryan said their was a steamy scene between brittana in a laundry room so if they didn't already show that I don't think we need to worry if santana and brittany will get back together.
Also, does anybody else feels like Murphy is trying to speak directly to us now, with the whole phone call between Rachel and Finn about what Glee is really about, or that extremely annoying, inappropriate, unprofessional speech by Brit about "angry lesbians" and how they'll just have to deal with it?
It makes me hate him. SHOW. Don't TELL.
I did love love love the NY scenes this week (with the exception of Cassie).
Rachel reminded us why she is Rachel Berry, and her and Finn's phone conversation was really great. I can see the two being friends finally.
Hells to the yes to Santana joining Rachel and Kurt, and if she's at NYADA, I can see HER kicking ass in Cassie's class!
Sue's kinda lost her luster too. She always amused be, but now she's just rude and a little insane. I wasn't even mollified with her "I feel guilty" speech.
I hope Finn stops dressing like Mr. Schue though.
And I'm glad Tina calls Marley out. She's right. Marley is no Rachel Berry.
I am so over Cassie. That bitch isn't a teacher, she doesn't try to help anybody get better, and I don't care if the student is legal, you should still not be allowed to just sleep with them without any consequences.
I'm also pissed off about Kitty, especially since, the next episode's promo made no mention of the bulimia issue. But reading the other comments, I'm hopeful they won't just bury the storyline. But I don't see Kitty's character as redeemable.
As for Sam and Brit, I was a little annoyed because Brittany and Santana never really got a moment to shine, but what seriously pissed me off was Brittany's speech about angry lesbians. Bad move.
Rtsporty18 Rank: New User
December 7th, 2012 7:07 AM
Every episode I wish one of the other girls would punch kitty in the face, if there was a chance for this happening this episode would have been perfect. I would like to believe that this whole eating disorder will be addressed soon. Rachel and Kurt's performances were awesome and made me forget for a second that they are in a different state. This whole fued between sue and Finn is starting to really bug me. Forced out of the choir room? Really??
Tracy
December 7th, 2012 4:54 AM
I believe Swan Song was in reference to Rachel saying she sings a song like it is her last. This also motivated Kurt to sing with emotion and passion as it was his last chance and possibly last performance on stage. I'm wondering if moving the Glee club to a new space that does not look as though it is situated at a school, is a way to push the focus away from the high school to make it more intergrated with the scenes in New York? I think they need to make a spin off with Kurt and Rachel in New York where old cast members can drop in. The Thanksgiving episode made me nostalgic for the old cast. There was also a hint that Santana might move, possibly to New York as well? I hope so! And lastly, we need more Brody!
Ashley
December 7th, 2012 4:04 AM
Personally I like the show last night expect for the bram thing why I'm upset cuz they can start a new relationship and not give a damn but another one I mean y the hell did u have him chase after one girl only to be like a rebound one I hate that I think them as friends not relationship but it was slap to the face to britanny and Santana fans but to Sam and Mercedes because they never got The respect like the all the other couples . But I'm happy that Kurt got in nyada :)
xandrew
December 7th, 2012 2:29 AM
and no, the show is about new directions, Rachel is great and all, but she should be off on her own show instead of ripping away screen time from glee's proper main focus.
xandrew
December 7th, 2012 2:27 AM
guest, they obviously have a quota of how many homosexual kisses they're allowed to have on the show. That's why Klaine had the "romantic" hugs all the time. It's not difficult to see that someone high up had a problem with too much gay sexuality, so they imposed limits knowing that everyone would blame the writers. there's nothing we can do about it because the higher ups don't care... except hire an assassin.
LilAngel
December 7th, 2012 2:05 AM
I absolutely loved that episode (even the McKinley scenes were bearable). We got great NYADA plots and amazing songs by Lea Michele. The show is at its best when it revolves around Rachel.
guest
December 7th, 2012 1:09 AM
As a straight girl who loves Brittany and Santana I found it completely offensive that they would say we are just angry lesbians mad that Brittany is now dating a boy. The writers, and you apparently, don't seem to understand that we are not mad about the fact that Brittany is dating a boy (she is single after all). We are mad that when she was dating a girl she was practically mute the entire time and they didn't get any private conversations and took 13 episodes and fans kicking and screaming for them to even kiss, but as soon as she is with a boy they get intimate scenes, a kiss, and even a romantic duet in the first episode they're together. How can anyone not see the blatantly obvious double standards on this show is beyond me.
Kayla
December 7th, 2012 12:06 AM
That last scene, with the song "don't dream it's over" was absolutely beautiful. The cover might be the best they ever done and watching Rachel react to Kurt's admission was so so so cute!!!
Amy Lynn
December 6th, 2012 11:48 PM
It was so nice getting to see Rachel do what she does best tonight. Her first song actually blew me away more. I felt like we had the old Rachel Berry back! I loved her scene with Finn, even if it was only a phone conversation. I'm hoping finchel will be back together soon! I like the idea of Brittany and Sam. I was never a fan of her and Santana. Plus I'll take any excuse to give Sam a little more screen time! I feel like I haven't seen enough of him this season. I'd say they have to revisit this eating disorder sometime. And yay for Kurt! I'm still crossing my fingers that Santana will move to New York next semester. I miss her!
Marisa1983 Rank: Recurring Character
December 6th, 2012 11:41 PM
I read in an interview that the bulimia storyline is far from over. Apparently, it'll only get worse before it gets better. I too, was really annoyed that Kitty didn't get blamed for this. I couldn't stand her signing happily with the others like she didn't have a care in the world. I hope she'll realize the damage she's done.
And finally, I am glad that they lost, cause now they can start over and honestly it was becoming predictable that they always won sectionals. Now they can concentrate on the music and the relationships.
Brittany: Let me break it down. No one in this musty choir room compares to my megawatt star power. Blaine, you're shorter than a lawn gnome. Joe, you look l...
Rank: Staff Member
December 7th, 2012 11:04 AM
@Fatin--the decision to break the "fourth wall" was a very deliberate one on Murphy's and the writers' parts, I think. They anticipated the backlash from the Brittany/Sam pairing and addressed it in hopes of the internet not imploding on itself this morning. Whether or not that worked, I'm not sure. I think an occasional break of that barrier between screen and living rooms, when well done, is a cheeky way for a show to acknowledge that its viewers are there. I liked it.
December 7th, 2012 10:55 AM
Sky! do you not remember the death threats Kevin and Grant got for getting in the way of Brittana and Klaine? In that regard, there is some legitimacy. It's very clear to me that the reason the gay couples get less screen time is because of the networks. If you look at the what gay couples are allowed to do and what straight couples are allowed to do you will always see discrepancies. Consider what having a gay couple that doesn't have as much romantic attraction looks like from both sides. If they don't kiss enough, we liberal gay-lovers (me included) get angry, and just by existing the conservative douch-bags get angry. It's a lose/lose for them to deliberately write them that way. The only conclusion I can come up with for why a gay writer/director/producer would have such a discrepancy is that they want to have gay characters and they want to show them being as "normal" as possible, but can't because of some arbitrary rules set forth by the family-first bitch slapped network execut
December 7th, 2012 10:31 AM
(cont of my previous post) One could say it's just a show, but Glee holds itself up as this show that is "inspirational" and "sends good messages." So it makes it all the worse. I feel sorry for young gay/bi/questioning girls who only have Glee as their support. What a slap in the face that "hilarious" and "clever" meta must have been.
December 7th, 2012 10:30 AM
The fact that so many reviewers, with the exception of the flawless Dr. She Bloggo, are completely missing the point as to why people are upset about the way the Bram storyline was handled baffles me. And it isn't just Brittana fans who are upset. Personally, I'm not a fan of either character or their relationship. The issue isn't the pairing itself - after all, Brit is bisexual and single. I think we (Brittana fans included) all understand this. It's the double-standard that exists on this show. The heteronormative couples get more screentime and intimate scenes in comparison to the queer couples. The meta in "Swan Song" exacerbates the problem - painting anyone who has had legitimate criticism over these double standards - as "angry lesbian bloggers" who are prone to violence. It promotes the idea of heterophobia, which is exactly what the LGBT community DOES NOT need. One could say it's just a show, but Glee holds itself up as this show that is "inspirational" and "sends good messag
December 7th, 2012 10:13 AM
THE PIANO GUY TALKED.
Rank: Extra
December 7th, 2012 10:13 AM
But my favorite part of this episode was when Rachel said, i know I won't be as good as a dancer as you, but I'm a better singer.
Rachel brought the house down. She showed everyone how amazing she is.
I wish we could have seen Cassandra's reaction to her singing.
Rank: Extra
December 7th, 2012 10:11 AM
I was disappointed that Santana didn“t get to fight with Kitty more, maybe throw a punch at Quinn for good measure.
I loved Brittany and Sam together. They fit so well. Sam adores her, and seems to put her feelings first, unlike Santana who broke up with her and didn't even give her an option.
I wish they could put more Sebastian and Hunter, they were so funny, and Sexy, and they made things entertaining, and sexy
Rank: Extra
December 7th, 2012 10:08 AM
actually quite liked this episode.
We got Rachel from season 1 one back with a bang. she showed her love for performing and how she really cares about Glee Club.
Tina was really bitchy, she kept calling off Marley for not being the New Rachel, but isnt Blaine the new one?
December 7th, 2012 9:23 AM
Marley wasn't trying to be the new rachel berry I like that she isn't anything like rachel her voice is amazing and not annoying like rachel and everything doesn't have to revolve around her all the time and as for sam and brittany they can have their little romance for now but in the end I want brittana together ryan said their was a steamy scene between brittana in a laundry room so if they didn't already show that I don't think we need to worry if santana and brittany will get back together.
Rank: Guest Star
December 7th, 2012 8:40 AM
Also, does anybody else feels like Murphy is trying to speak directly to us now, with the whole phone call between Rachel and Finn about what Glee is really about, or that extremely annoying, inappropriate, unprofessional speech by Brit about "angry lesbians" and how they'll just have to deal with it?
It makes me hate him. SHOW. Don't TELL.
Rank: Guest Star
December 7th, 2012 8:38 AM
I did love love love the NY scenes this week (with the exception of Cassie).
Rachel reminded us why she is Rachel Berry, and her and Finn's phone conversation was really great. I can see the two being friends finally.
Hells to the yes to Santana joining Rachel and Kurt, and if she's at NYADA, I can see HER kicking ass in Cassie's class!
Sue's kinda lost her luster too. She always amused be, but now she's just rude and a little insane. I wasn't even mollified with her "I feel guilty" speech.
I hope Finn stops dressing like Mr. Schue though.
And I'm glad Tina calls Marley out. She's right. Marley is no Rachel Berry.
Rank: Guest Star
December 7th, 2012 8:33 AM
I am so over Cassie. That bitch isn't a teacher, she doesn't try to help anybody get better, and I don't care if the student is legal, you should still not be allowed to just sleep with them without any consequences.
I'm also pissed off about Kitty, especially since, the next episode's promo made no mention of the bulimia issue. But reading the other comments, I'm hopeful they won't just bury the storyline. But I don't see Kitty's character as redeemable.
As for Sam and Brit, I was a little annoyed because Brittany and Santana never really got a moment to shine, but what seriously pissed me off was Brittany's speech about angry lesbians. Bad move.
Rank: New User
December 7th, 2012 7:07 AM
Every episode I wish one of the other girls would punch kitty in the face, if there was a chance for this happening this episode would have been perfect. I would like to believe that this whole eating disorder will be addressed soon. Rachel and Kurt's performances were awesome and made me forget for a second that they are in a different state. This whole fued between sue and Finn is starting to really bug me. Forced out of the choir room? Really??
December 7th, 2012 4:54 AM
I believe Swan Song was in reference to Rachel saying she sings a song like it is her last. This also motivated Kurt to sing with emotion and passion as it was his last chance and possibly last performance on stage. I'm wondering if moving the Glee club to a new space that does not look as though it is situated at a school, is a way to push the focus away from the high school to make it more intergrated with the scenes in New York? I think they need to make a spin off with Kurt and Rachel in New York where old cast members can drop in. The Thanksgiving episode made me nostalgic for the old cast. There was also a hint that Santana might move, possibly to New York as well? I hope so! And lastly, we need more Brody!
December 7th, 2012 4:04 AM
Personally I like the show last night expect for the bram thing why I'm upset cuz they can start a new relationship and not give a damn but another one I mean y the hell did u have him chase after one girl only to be like a rebound one I hate that I think them as friends not relationship but it was slap to the face to britanny and Santana fans but to Sam and Mercedes because they never got The respect like the all the other couples . But I'm happy that Kurt got in nyada :)
December 7th, 2012 2:29 AM
and no, the show is about new directions, Rachel is great and all, but she should be off on her own show instead of ripping away screen time from glee's proper main focus.
December 7th, 2012 2:27 AM
guest, they obviously have a quota of how many homosexual kisses they're allowed to have on the show. That's why Klaine had the "romantic" hugs all the time. It's not difficult to see that someone high up had a problem with too much gay sexuality, so they imposed limits knowing that everyone would blame the writers. there's nothing we can do about it because the higher ups don't care... except hire an assassin.
December 7th, 2012 2:05 AM
I absolutely loved that episode (even the McKinley scenes were bearable). We got great NYADA plots and amazing songs by Lea Michele. The show is at its best when it revolves around Rachel.
December 7th, 2012 1:09 AM
As a straight girl who loves Brittany and Santana I found it completely offensive that they would say we are just angry lesbians mad that Brittany is now dating a boy. The writers, and you apparently, don't seem to understand that we are not mad about the fact that Brittany is dating a boy (she is single after all). We are mad that when she was dating a girl she was practically mute the entire time and they didn't get any private conversations and took 13 episodes and fans kicking and screaming for them to even kiss, but as soon as she is with a boy they get intimate scenes, a kiss, and even a romantic duet in the first episode they're together. How can anyone not see the blatantly obvious double standards on this show is beyond me.
December 7th, 2012 12:06 AM
That last scene, with the song "don't dream it's over" was absolutely beautiful. The cover might be the best they ever done and watching Rachel react to Kurt's admission was so so so cute!!!
December 6th, 2012 11:48 PM
It was so nice getting to see Rachel do what she does best tonight. Her first song actually blew me away more. I felt like we had the old Rachel Berry back! I loved her scene with Finn, even if it was only a phone conversation. I'm hoping finchel will be back together soon! I like the idea of Brittany and Sam. I was never a fan of her and Santana. Plus I'll take any excuse to give Sam a little more screen time! I feel like I haven't seen enough of him this season. I'd say they have to revisit this eating disorder sometime. And yay for Kurt! I'm still crossing my fingers that Santana will move to New York next semester. I miss her!
Rank: Recurring Character
December 6th, 2012 11:41 PM
I read in an interview that the bulimia storyline is far from over. Apparently, it'll only get worse before it gets better. I too, was really annoyed that Kitty didn't get blamed for this. I couldn't stand her signing happily with the others like she didn't have a care in the world. I hope she'll realize the damage she's done.
And finally, I am glad that they lost, cause now they can start over and honestly it was becoming predictable that they always won sectionals. Now they can concentrate on the music and the relationships.