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Jane: This is Red John. Lisbon: How can you tell? Jane: Because when it's him I can feel it.
December 11th, 2012 11:27 PM
I also agree with Kodak. They need to end Red John's story arc. With all due respect to Simon Baker, his opinion is not what counts. It is Bruno Heller and the viewers if they stop watching. I am tired of Red John. It seems lots of other people are as well- Red Sails in the Sunset had the lowest ratings of the season so far. A friend of mine who used to love the show didn't even watch it and is now skipping Red John centric episodes. I am not quite that fed up yet, but I admit I am getting there. They will miss a great opportunity to show us how Jane adapts AFTER getting Red John if they string this out to the bitter end. We already know what angsty, dark revenge seeking Jane is like. More of the same does not make it more interesting. Show us redemption and renewal.
December 11th, 2012 6:07 PM
kodak
I totally agree with you. If they have half way competent writers They should be able to continue the show with character development as to what happens after RJ. I think that the viewers would enjoy the "rest of the story" plus some good crime solving stories.
Of course they would need good writing. The acting is already there.
Rank: Regular Character
December 11th, 2012 3:35 PM
RJ should have been wrapped by last season. Season 5 (and+?) could be Jane's recovery
December 11th, 2012 10:35 AM
I disagree with Simon and think that is selling the writers short. The only thing that would bring the mentalists end would be for Jane to end up dead, which may happen if this revenge plot follows the like of Moby Dick and other revenge/evil mastermind plots. I for one would like to see "the story afterwards". I want to see Jane's remdeption and story telling of how he gets past the revenge and loss to find a new life or purpose. If this thing ends with the death of Red John or the death of Jane/in jail or whatever and doesn't go beyond that, I am going to feel like I wasted my time watching this series. I want something more and different then the same old revenge plots.
December 11th, 2012 10:04 AM
Just had a weird thought -- what if Summer's nerdy boyfriend is Red John? *snicker* Well, he could be anybody for all we know, and we're five years into this thing. BTW, Simon said in his interview with Larry King that a series like this couldn't last beyond 6 or 7 years and indicated the Red John storyline was the real meat and the series couldn't make it beyond RJ's discovery.
Rank: Recurring Character
December 11th, 2012 9:50 AM
If Summer gets into any kind of trouble, she'll call Cho. That means they can bring her back anytime it suits the show's creative direction. It's also a pretty standard story line that a "female" character who's not so smart who thinks she's pulling one over on a "male" she thinks she's smarter than ... usually is wrong. With her "nerdish" husband being jealous of keeping what's fallen into his lap, not believing his good luck(?), I think they are building to bringing her back -- and what better way than the baby being Cho's!?
December 11th, 2012 9:02 AM
I think as loyal viewers, we have already earned the right to know who Red John is and with all of this talk about cancellation......they better pick up the story lines fast.
December 11th, 2012 6:14 AM
This episode was a complete sleeper. I'm positive that summer is carring Cho's baby! We will see Summer again. She had to of been pregnant before she left. She was not gone long enough to be eight months pregnant on her return. She's using that guy to cover it up. You know how slick she is! They will show the new born and Summer will tell her husband, oh, he looks just like you and we be scratching heads going... no, he looks just like CHO!
I saw a inteview with Simon Baker (yes! Another one!) and he said the viewer's are really going to have to earn the right to know who Red John is. So it's not going to be easy!
Rank: Regular Character
December 10th, 2012 10:43 PM
A few good moments but the series should move the RJ storyline along each episode or just finish it up all ready.
December 10th, 2012 8:33 PM
The writers seem to have worked part of the plot around the actress who plays Summer's own pregnancy but I wish they hadn't. As nice as it is to see the character again, I think the idea that her and Cho might still have a shot someday is quite a nice thing to cling on to.
December 10th, 2012 4:46 PM
finishing up my thoughts from the comment right below:
the rest of the non-r.j., non-jane backstory are pretty much empty calories. jane among the botanists, chefs, bikers, bankers, fashion people, transvestites, vintners, horse racers, doctors, high schoolers, fisherman, footballers. what's next? butchers, bakers and candlestick makers? my opinion, we need red john as much as jane.
December 10th, 2012 4:43 PM
my take on this. summer and cho, cho and rapid response, rigsby and doobie -- boring filler. they had to pedal hard to get emotional traction with the summer stuff. jane is the core of this show. and lisbon, but only as she relates to jane.
i think the episode illustrated that without a substantial red john thread or some juicy jane backstory, you've eviscerated the show. it's the rare non-red john or non- jane backstory episode that holds up over time. red-handed, code red, red badge, red bulls, ladies in red, the red mile, every rose has its thorn, war of the roses, his thoughts were red thoughts, the blood on his hands, red line, red hair and silver tape, rose colored glasses, paint it red. these i've watched again (and again actually). those are my votes. but that's fourteen out of more than a hundred. the rest of the non-r.j., non-jane backstory are pretty much empty calories. jane among the botanists, chefs, bikers, bankers, fashion people, transvestites, vintners, h
December 10th, 2012 4:28 PM
Red John is the fat police men from the flashback episode
December 10th, 2012 2:35 PM
If we're supposed to see clues to finding Red John in this season, I'm tempted to see the message that we should not over-think it but look for the simplest solution. So here we have Lisbon simply smashing the puzzle box instead of obsessing with it as Jane did. Earlier when Jane did that big leap over the fence, thinking the gate was locked, Lisbon simply walked over and opened it. In a previous season when Jane spent a whole episode trying to keep his persoal burgler from being charged, as soon as he told Lisbon his situation, she simply went to the jail and punched the guy out, thus getting his charges dismissed. So will Lisbon tire of Jane's obsession with connecting RJ with handshaking and simply tell him to just focus on who he has met whose speech is just like RJ's? Looks like she will ID Red John before Jane does, simply and quickly.
December 10th, 2012 1:20 PM
See, they can produce a quality show with out the dreary Red John mess.
December 10th, 2012 12:48 PM
Is anyone else getting a little tired of seeing Grace sit behind her desk any time she has something to say?? I know she is pregnant in real life, but there must be better, less lazy ways to get her involved in the cases! To the point that she barely turns around to talk to Patrick when he's lying on the couch behind her. Otherwise, good Ep and waiting for the next Red John incident! That is getting tedious!
Rank: Recurring Character
December 10th, 2012 9:46 AM
The end still got me laughing, what else is in that draw?
December 10th, 2012 9:43 AM
The thing I found off in this episode happened twice - they knock on/enter in the front door and someone goes running off out the back. Since when do they not cover the back exit, especially on the Rapid Response Team's raid? Are they really that desperate to make Cho run?
December 10th, 2012 8:57 AM
Once again, Hollywood broke up an inter-racial couple. Happened in Big Bang Theory with Priya and happened now in Mentalist. It is going to happen again in Hawaii Five O when Masi Oka's girlfriend's character will be killed off in the finale.
Rank: New User
December 10th, 2012 7:49 AM
I could not stop laughing when Rigsby was high. Was the funniest thing I had ever seen.
I enjoyed Lisbon opening the puzzle box with a hammer too. especially Jane's face after she left lol..
December 10th, 2012 7:30 AM
I enjoyed the episode. I hope Cho is done with the Rapid Response group. He needs to stay with the CBI crew. I think we will see Summer again. She seemed to be trying to convince herself that her husband to be was a good guy. Rigsby high was very funny. I enjoyed Jane's puzzle obcession. Lisbon was right to the point opening the puzzle box with a hammer.
December 10th, 2012 6:53 AM
The best part was the ending. Even I expected that Lisbon would struggle with that puzzle box and look helpless. Instead it was Jane who looked shocked and helpless.....
December 10th, 2012 6:32 AM
Loved the ending. Very Alexander the Great. :)