The Vampire Diaries Review: O Holy Fright Comments (Page 2)
160 Comments
ItsMe
December 24th, 2012 12:03 AM
People saying that what Caroline did was wrong seriously need to shut the fuck up! I'm only defending her because she did do the right thing. Anyone as a friend would do the same thing. Anyone would appreciate a friend telling them the truth if an ex and even worse a BROTHER don't tell you the truth. Not saying Damon is a bad guy (I love him) but he should have been honest with Stefan. Elena should have told him the truth but the thing is she's his EX. Damon on the other hand should have told him the truth because well he is his BROTHER.
Silvia
December 22nd, 2012 9:38 AM
Damon didn't let Elena go. He only told her to go home. I don't remember hearing him saying stuff like "don't think about me anymore" or something like that. I really don't think Damon should choose option number 1. The feelings Elena has for him aren't actually real. Of course, she developed feelings for him prior the transformation, but she chose to ignore them in order to be with Stefan. She didn't even say goodbye face-to-face to Damon; all he got was a call. Because she was hurrying to get to Stefan. Now, as a vampire, Elena has hightened feelings for Damon. This means they had to make her a vampire then sired to him in order for them to happen. Lmao. And her not being able to make her own decisions anymore and having the urge to always please Damon changes everything. How could a relationship like this be good for her? What they got isn't real, in spite of Elena assuring Damon that it is. She only did it because he wanted it to know that her feelings for him were real.
It's fri
kins1984
December 19th, 2012 11:24 PM
The sire bond is not an exclusivity of hybrids.
Remember in Season 3, Damon came with the Sire bond thing,
noting that Tyler is all defending Klaus at the beginning,
and remember before Tyler, there were no Hybrids except for Klaus. So its easy to see that the Sire bond forming between a Vampire and Another Vampire Existed,well before the Hybrids, because Damon mentioned it BEFORE, he was aware of it.
This episode also reminds me when supposedly Stefan hides things from Elena throughout some of the seasons but now Elena is hiding too many things from him. Thanks for being a big fat liar to Stefan Elena. It brought up his anger and heartbreaking feeling. ;P
I'm glad that Damon has let Elena go but it all happened once Caroline spilled the news to Stefan that they're together. When the season comes back,Stefan will definitely be mad and heartbroken that Elena never told him and was such a big fat liar to her. If Damon lets Elena go and Stefan has no point in wanting to talk to Elena,then good luck for her to find her true love when she said at the end of season 3 that she would choose Stefan and admitted to Damon in season 2 that she loves and always will be Stefan. I can't wait to see what else happens when the season returns. =|
Canastia
December 18th, 2012 10:37 PM
Just one other observation...how is it that Tyler and his 12 hybrids figured they could overtake Klaus and bury him, but when Klaus found them in the woods they didn't fight back?? I mean 12 vs 1...it should've been some kind of fight right?!! LOL!!
Still liked the scene tho...:)
Canastia
December 18th, 2012 10:31 PM
Professor Shady Pants is definitely either Silas or Silas' best friend. He is definitely a witch (former?) because he immediately was attracted to Bonnie. In my opinion this is the best story line...
Tyler and the hybrids...BOOO!!! Especially since we have NEVER seen these characters before! Not invested!
Is Hayley even a werewolf??! I've been wondering that all along. Perhaps she was just coached by Prof Shady Pants as to how to break the sire bond? And purposely went after Tyler so she it put the 12 hybrid plan into effect?
Canastia
December 18th, 2012 10:25 PM
Question: Do vampires get cold?? Why was Elena at the cabin with a blanket wrapped around her?? LOL! Just sayin...
night magic
December 18th, 2012 9:18 PM
oh except Caroline she had no right to tell Stefan anything and julie has said that Elena sleeping with Damon was her just giving into her feelings finally .i would have prefered more of a build up but it was explained
night magic
December 18th, 2012 9:16 PM
i loved everything about this episode .NO complaints at all .Julie has said that the sire bond is an important factor in Delenas relationship and i think Damon did the right thing because he was torn from the moment Elena asked him to come to the lake house .Theres too much doubt in his mind .Klaus was Klaus .the music was very moving and tragic in contrast with the Christmas feel of the ep .cant wait for the next one .
MikeLee
December 18th, 2012 12:38 AM
Caroline and Stefan should go get married and have at least five little brats of their own. Hopefully, that would keep them busy and shut them up for a bit.
Candy
December 17th, 2012 7:02 PM
Ha ha I laugh when I read some of these comments. Guys are talking terrible about Caroline for telling (not really she didn't say anything) how Elena got with Damon the day after her and Stef broke up. Ok whats worse telling your friend another friends secrete or doing your ex boyfriends brother the day after you broke up. Hmmm lets see which is worse. Get your stuff straight people if you condemn one you condemn them all.
tania
December 17th, 2012 5:27 PM
OK so its Jeremy's turn for a little split personality action, but before that, I think I've been reading way too much vampire diaries fanfiction, and i don't know if i've picked up any spoilers i would have been better off waiting for. Shane (or Professor Creepy) is turning into an Alaric replacement, or Elijah replacement, he talks about a witch killing a girl Silas loved, that sounds awfully like Esther spilling the blood of a girl both Klaus and Elijah loved (I hate it when shows throw story threads in and don't complete them, we still have yet to hear more about Tatia, and this season promised to reveal more about the spell that created vampires). Elena is happily in love with Damon for a grand total of two stories before he dumps her courtesy of the brand new judgies on the block Stefan and Caroline. It sounds as though the writers are really not sure whether or not they want Damon and Elena as a couple, yet, so they keep throwing them curve balls. Nina Dobrev herself said in an
His murderous moment with the mayor was quite a shock, however, and it DID make 12.
I thought the episode was confusing and raised more questions than it answered, and I'm extremely frustrated with the sire bond situation, but I still liked it and thought there were a lot of great "edge of your seat moments"..
I'm irritated with the Sire Bond thing with Delena because they have been told by Tyler that the sire bond has nothing to do with feelings and by that witch in New Orleans that feelings have to exist prior to vampire transition for it to happen. So, CLEARLY, the feelings are real but the sire bond is a complication. And, really, the bond isn't broken as Matt said..Elena is just doing what Damon wants because she is still sired to him. Makes no sense.
I did like the episode but it raised some questions:
1. What is Professor Shadypants REALLY up to? Is he Silas or the witch best friend of Silas?
2. Is there really even a cure? (I kind of hope not)
3. What is with the sacrificing in 12s?
Also, I love Joseph Morgan and think he is impeccable as Klaus. But I don't get how the leap was made that he would kill his hybrids for their deception, how the professor was so sure this would happen, and what it has to do with anything...I mean, he didn't kill Tyler, so why would we assume
Sunshine Rise
December 17th, 2012 3:45 PM
I loved how they went to help Jeremy: it feels like they are one family ( I love how he's been always part of Jeremy's life). I loved Damon watching Elena enjoying a normal moment with her brother, her signals for him to come and share her those moments and be a part of it but sure he didn't 'cause he never felt like belonging there (he was always alone), the mistletoe moment, him telling her about his childhood. And the most heartbreaking moment is him telling her to go home and his wet eyes and broken voice telling her that's what makes him happy broke my heart into a little tiny pieces but even that I didn't want him to do that I think that it will be a good motive for Elena to try to convince him that she loves him for real and that kiss that she gave him before leaving was a proof and a message for him that he can controle her actions but not her feelings.
Sunshine Rise
December 17th, 2012 3:44 PM
If I'm gonna go along with them and say that they're not better than Klaus and that they all did horrible things (which's not the case) then 1st they all tried to fix their fall downs whether they've succeded or not but they had the intention when he did had no intention, 2nd if they're such sympathisers why don't they try that with Damon I'm sure that with all his "bad brother glory" as they see him he did alot of good things that they don't want to admit and sure he didn't do as half as what Klaus did but sure Damon is the selfish, ruthless, irredeemable person who doesn't deserve anything specially not Elena while Klaus is a misunderstood person. Seriously!!!
5/ Damon & Elena: there's no words that can describe these 2. I loved the bed morning scene, how they've decided to stay together even if it meant that they won't be able to express their love in any significant way but they'll accept this situation 'cause it's their only/best option other than being apart.
Sunshine Rise
December 17th, 2012 3:43 PM
3/ Jeremy/Elena relationship...It broke my heart seeing Jeremy saying that he hates Elena, that she's not his real sister, that he blames her and sees her the responsible one for him loosing every one he loves and that he will kill her even if it will means killing himself but then when they hugged that moment was an ointment for my wounded heart. I really want them to back to normal as they were.
4/ To me Stefan and Caroline have lost their mind completely: so aside from Stefan being obsessed with finding the cure to un-sire Elena from Damon (his main issue) without caring about anything else, Caroline taking Stefan's side instead of her boyfriend and Elena (her childhood friend), now they're sympathising with Klaus? He's misunderstood? She tried to remind herself of all his horrible things he did ? He feels guilty toward him? (When they can't find any problem remembering Damon's mistakes.)
Sunshine Rise
December 17th, 2012 3:42 PM
I really love this episode it was full of emotions and actions.
1/ So finally Klaus' evil side came back to action, I knew that his nice side will fade away sooner or later but I didn't think for a second that he will be back this way (killing 12 un-sired hybrids in one night (within less an hour) ?!!! And Tyler's mother?!!! No words...) I don’t know what’s gonna happen between Tyler/Klaus but I’m sure it won't be any where near to good.
2/ Seriously this shady professor is killing me. What's wrong with him? What does he want? Ok he wants Silis, but why? And don't tell me it has something to do with his loss of his kid and wife 'cause I don't buy it. We learned in this episode that his plan about these 12 un-sired hybrids was to be killed by Klaus who he need for the ritual. Ok, WHAT RITUAL? I really don't trust him and I don't want him to be any way near Damon, Elena, Jeremy and Bonnie (wishful thinking I know).
glo
December 16th, 2012 9:12 AM
1. Wow I am amazed at how I don't care about the Elena being sired to Damon business. *YAWN* That triangle needs new life. I mostly just feel bad for Stefan nowadays so I want to see more scenes of him with Klaus and with Caroline.
2. Klaroline. Granted that Klaus has always been evil, I still kinda hated Caroline in this episode for once again acting nice to Klaus to distract him. It's not her fault, though. I mean, she was on board the whole kill Klaus business because she has plenty of reason to think of him as evil. But come on, after episode 4x07, I thought it'd be a little bit harder on her to make that decision.
3. Jeremy as hunter = cool. Jeremy and Bonnie. oh, please, NO.
4. Klaus being all kill-y again. Hmmm... I love that he's so badass. But killing the mayor just solidifies the Tyler vs Klaus war and I'm already dreading how Caroline's gonna react to it against Klaus. Then again, she never thought of Klaus as anything else so nothing's gonna change exactly. Humpf.
ItsMe
December 16th, 2012 1:55 AM
@ Amie: Couldn't agree with you more on the Stefan and Caroline comment.
Tri***
December 15th, 2012 3:53 PM
Luv triangle:steph->elena->damon.we had it she got them all over then whats next?can anybody else draw me the triangle?plec please stop the showww!
Amie Rank: Regular Character
December 15th, 2012 3:44 PM
Oh and P.S. @all those who say Caroline is getting on their nerves because she is crossing the line in telling Stefan about DE. Well, Damon had plenty of time to tell his brother the truth instead of wasting time convincing Elena he has to do the right thing by his brother. Also, if Caroline had told Stefan about them the night she found out then yes, she would have been crossing the line, but this time she had every reason to be concerned about Stefan being lied to - and that is what being a good and HONEST friend is about.
Amie Rank: Regular Character
December 15th, 2012 3:41 PM
Srsly, the show has shifted so much focus on the various ships like Delena and Klaroline that its like nothing else matters - look ship whoever you want, but not everybody is interested in which character gets to bed whom. So I hope TVD pulls it together for the next half of the season because now there are so many loose ends - it is getting frustrating yet three episodes were wasted on talking about the cure, the stupid sword, the sire bond, the hybrids revolution and blah blah blah....
Amie Rank: Regular Character
December 15th, 2012 3:40 PM
Remember the movie The Devil Wears Prada when Andrea gets her first orders from Miranda and then when she tells Emily about them she goes like: "She asked me about PR-59, then there was something about Simone, Jackie, Frankie and..someone else, oh and she needs skirts from Calvin Kline".....like thats how I fell about TVD right now - I have no idea what is going on or how it all fits together and the show does not bother to spend enough screen time on any other sl except when it involves Elena and the ridiculous sire bond so I could not care less about whether they will find the cure, or who the hell is Silas and what his deal, or who is exactly Shane and what is his endgame....Srsly, the show has shifted so much focus on the various ships like Delena and Klaroline that its like nothing else matters - look ship whoever you want, but not everybody is interested in which character gets to bed whom. So I hope TVD pulls it together for the next half of the season because now there are so m
Damon: She's strong and crafty and you'll die. Elena: At least I'll die trying.
December 24th, 2012 12:03 AM
People saying that what Caroline did was wrong seriously need to shut the fuck up! I'm only defending her because she did do the right thing. Anyone as a friend would do the same thing. Anyone would appreciate a friend telling them the truth if an ex and even worse a BROTHER don't tell you the truth. Not saying Damon is a bad guy (I love him) but he should have been honest with Stefan. Elena should have told him the truth but the thing is she's his EX. Damon on the other hand should have told him the truth because well he is his BROTHER.
December 22nd, 2012 9:38 AM
Damon didn't let Elena go. He only told her to go home. I don't remember hearing him saying stuff like "don't think about me anymore" or something like that. I really don't think Damon should choose option number 1. The feelings Elena has for him aren't actually real. Of course, she developed feelings for him prior the transformation, but she chose to ignore them in order to be with Stefan. She didn't even say goodbye face-to-face to Damon; all he got was a call. Because she was hurrying to get to Stefan. Now, as a vampire, Elena has hightened feelings for Damon. This means they had to make her a vampire then sired to him in order for them to happen. Lmao. And her not being able to make her own decisions anymore and having the urge to always please Damon changes everything. How could a relationship like this be good for her? What they got isn't real, in spite of Elena assuring Damon that it is. She only did it because he wanted it to know that her feelings for him were real.
It's fri
December 19th, 2012 11:24 PM
The sire bond is not an exclusivity of hybrids.
Remember in Season 3, Damon came with the Sire bond thing,
noting that Tyler is all defending Klaus at the beginning,
and remember before Tyler, there were no Hybrids except for Klaus. So its easy to see that the Sire bond forming between a Vampire and Another Vampire Existed,well before the Hybrids, because Damon mentioned it BEFORE, he was aware of it.
Rank: Regular Character
December 19th, 2012 10:26 AM
This episode also reminds me when supposedly Stefan hides things from Elena throughout some of the seasons but now Elena is hiding too many things from him. Thanks for being a big fat liar to Stefan Elena. It brought up his anger and heartbreaking feeling. ;P
Rank: Regular Character
December 19th, 2012 10:18 AM
I'm glad that Damon has let Elena go but it all happened once Caroline spilled the news to Stefan that they're together. When the season comes back,Stefan will definitely be mad and heartbroken that Elena never told him and was such a big fat liar to her. If Damon lets Elena go and Stefan has no point in wanting to talk to Elena,then good luck for her to find her true love when she said at the end of season 3 that she would choose Stefan and admitted to Damon in season 2 that she loves and always will be Stefan. I can't wait to see what else happens when the season returns. =|
December 18th, 2012 10:37 PM
Just one other observation...how is it that Tyler and his 12 hybrids figured they could overtake Klaus and bury him, but when Klaus found them in the woods they didn't fight back?? I mean 12 vs 1...it should've been some kind of fight right?!! LOL!!
Still liked the scene tho...:)
December 18th, 2012 10:31 PM
Professor Shady Pants is definitely either Silas or Silas' best friend. He is definitely a witch (former?) because he immediately was attracted to Bonnie. In my opinion this is the best story line...
Tyler and the hybrids...BOOO!!! Especially since we have NEVER seen these characters before! Not invested!
Is Hayley even a werewolf??! I've been wondering that all along. Perhaps she was just coached by Prof Shady Pants as to how to break the sire bond? And purposely went after Tyler so she it put the 12 hybrid plan into effect?
December 18th, 2012 10:25 PM
Question: Do vampires get cold?? Why was Elena at the cabin with a blanket wrapped around her?? LOL! Just sayin...
December 18th, 2012 9:18 PM
oh except Caroline she had no right to tell Stefan anything and julie has said that Elena sleeping with Damon was her just giving into her feelings finally .i would have prefered more of a build up but it was explained
December 18th, 2012 9:16 PM
i loved everything about this episode .NO complaints at all .Julie has said that the sire bond is an important factor in Delenas relationship and i think Damon did the right thing because he was torn from the moment Elena asked him to come to the lake house .Theres too much doubt in his mind .Klaus was Klaus .the music was very moving and tragic in contrast with the Christmas feel of the ep .cant wait for the next one .
December 18th, 2012 12:38 AM
Caroline and Stefan should go get married and have at least five little brats of their own. Hopefully, that would keep them busy and shut them up for a bit.
December 17th, 2012 7:02 PM
Ha ha I laugh when I read some of these comments. Guys are talking terrible about Caroline for telling (not really she didn't say anything) how Elena got with Damon the day after her and Stef broke up. Ok whats worse telling your friend another friends secrete or doing your ex boyfriends brother the day after you broke up. Hmmm lets see which is worse. Get your stuff straight people if you condemn one you condemn them all.
December 17th, 2012 5:27 PM
OK so its Jeremy's turn for a little split personality action, but before that, I think I've been reading way too much vampire diaries fanfiction, and i don't know if i've picked up any spoilers i would have been better off waiting for. Shane (or Professor Creepy) is turning into an Alaric replacement, or Elijah replacement, he talks about a witch killing a girl Silas loved, that sounds awfully like Esther spilling the blood of a girl both Klaus and Elijah loved (I hate it when shows throw story threads in and don't complete them, we still have yet to hear more about Tatia, and this season promised to reveal more about the spell that created vampires). Elena is happily in love with Damon for a grand total of two stories before he dumps her courtesy of the brand new judgies on the block Stefan and Caroline. It sounds as though the writers are really not sure whether or not they want Damon and Elena as a couple, yet, so they keep throwing them curve balls. Nina Dobrev herself said in an
Rank: Recurring Character
December 17th, 2012 3:54 PM
(Cont'd)
he'd kill the other hybrids?
His murderous moment with the mayor was quite a shock, however, and it DID make 12.
I thought the episode was confusing and raised more questions than it answered, and I'm extremely frustrated with the sire bond situation, but I still liked it and thought there were a lot of great "edge of your seat moments"..
Rank: Recurring Character
December 17th, 2012 3:54 PM
I'm irritated with the Sire Bond thing with Delena because they have been told by Tyler that the sire bond has nothing to do with feelings and by that witch in New Orleans that feelings have to exist prior to vampire transition for it to happen. So, CLEARLY, the feelings are real but the sire bond is a complication. And, really, the bond isn't broken as Matt said..Elena is just doing what Damon wants because she is still sired to him. Makes no sense.
I did like the episode but it raised some questions:
1. What is Professor Shadypants REALLY up to? Is he Silas or the witch best friend of Silas?
2. Is there really even a cure? (I kind of hope not)
3. What is with the sacrificing in 12s?
Also, I love Joseph Morgan and think he is impeccable as Klaus. But I don't get how the leap was made that he would kill his hybrids for their deception, how the professor was so sure this would happen, and what it has to do with anything...I mean, he didn't kill Tyler, so why would we assume
December 17th, 2012 3:45 PM
I loved how they went to help Jeremy: it feels like they are one family ( I love how he's been always part of Jeremy's life). I loved Damon watching Elena enjoying a normal moment with her brother, her signals for him to come and share her those moments and be a part of it but sure he didn't 'cause he never felt like belonging there (he was always alone), the mistletoe moment, him telling her about his childhood. And the most heartbreaking moment is him telling her to go home and his wet eyes and broken voice telling her that's what makes him happy broke my heart into a little tiny pieces but even that I didn't want him to do that I think that it will be a good motive for Elena to try to convince him that she loves him for real and that kiss that she gave him before leaving was a proof and a message for him that he can controle her actions but not her feelings.
December 17th, 2012 3:44 PM
If I'm gonna go along with them and say that they're not better than Klaus and that they all did horrible things (which's not the case) then 1st they all tried to fix their fall downs whether they've succeded or not but they had the intention when he did had no intention, 2nd if they're such sympathisers why don't they try that with Damon I'm sure that with all his "bad brother glory" as they see him he did alot of good things that they don't want to admit and sure he didn't do as half as what Klaus did but sure Damon is the selfish, ruthless, irredeemable person who doesn't deserve anything specially not Elena while Klaus is a misunderstood person. Seriously!!!
5/ Damon & Elena: there's no words that can describe these 2. I loved the bed morning scene, how they've decided to stay together even if it meant that they won't be able to express their love in any significant way but they'll accept this situation 'cause it's their only/best option other than being apart.
December 17th, 2012 3:43 PM
3/ Jeremy/Elena relationship...It broke my heart seeing Jeremy saying that he hates Elena, that she's not his real sister, that he blames her and sees her the responsible one for him loosing every one he loves and that he will kill her even if it will means killing himself but then when they hugged that moment was an ointment for my wounded heart. I really want them to back to normal as they were.
4/ To me Stefan and Caroline have lost their mind completely: so aside from Stefan being obsessed with finding the cure to un-sire Elena from Damon (his main issue) without caring about anything else, Caroline taking Stefan's side instead of her boyfriend and Elena (her childhood friend), now they're sympathising with Klaus? He's misunderstood? She tried to remind herself of all his horrible things he did ? He feels guilty toward him? (When they can't find any problem remembering Damon's mistakes.)
December 17th, 2012 3:42 PM
I really love this episode it was full of emotions and actions.
1/ So finally Klaus' evil side came back to action, I knew that his nice side will fade away sooner or later but I didn't think for a second that he will be back this way (killing 12 un-sired hybrids in one night (within less an hour) ?!!! And Tyler's mother?!!! No words...) I don’t know what’s gonna happen between Tyler/Klaus but I’m sure it won't be any where near to good.
2/ Seriously this shady professor is killing me. What's wrong with him? What does he want? Ok he wants Silis, but why? And don't tell me it has something to do with his loss of his kid and wife 'cause I don't buy it. We learned in this episode that his plan about these 12 un-sired hybrids was to be killed by Klaus who he need for the ritual. Ok, WHAT RITUAL? I really don't trust him and I don't want him to be any way near Damon, Elena, Jeremy and Bonnie (wishful thinking I know).
December 16th, 2012 9:12 AM
1. Wow I am amazed at how I don't care about the Elena being sired to Damon business. *YAWN* That triangle needs new life. I mostly just feel bad for Stefan nowadays so I want to see more scenes of him with Klaus and with Caroline.
2. Klaroline. Granted that Klaus has always been evil, I still kinda hated Caroline in this episode for once again acting nice to Klaus to distract him. It's not her fault, though. I mean, she was on board the whole kill Klaus business because she has plenty of reason to think of him as evil. But come on, after episode 4x07, I thought it'd be a little bit harder on her to make that decision.
3. Jeremy as hunter = cool. Jeremy and Bonnie. oh, please, NO.
4. Klaus being all kill-y again. Hmmm... I love that he's so badass. But killing the mayor just solidifies the Tyler vs Klaus war and I'm already dreading how Caroline's gonna react to it against Klaus. Then again, she never thought of Klaus as anything else so nothing's gonna change exactly. Humpf.
December 16th, 2012 1:55 AM
@ Amie: Couldn't agree with you more on the Stefan and Caroline comment.
December 15th, 2012 3:53 PM
Luv triangle:steph->elena->damon.we had it she got them all over then whats next?can anybody else draw me the triangle?plec please stop the showww!
Rank: Regular Character
December 15th, 2012 3:44 PM
Oh and P.S. @all those who say Caroline is getting on their nerves because she is crossing the line in telling Stefan about DE. Well, Damon had plenty of time to tell his brother the truth instead of wasting time convincing Elena he has to do the right thing by his brother. Also, if Caroline had told Stefan about them the night she found out then yes, she would have been crossing the line, but this time she had every reason to be concerned about Stefan being lied to - and that is what being a good and HONEST friend is about.
Rank: Regular Character
December 15th, 2012 3:41 PM
Srsly, the show has shifted so much focus on the various ships like Delena and Klaroline that its like nothing else matters - look ship whoever you want, but not everybody is interested in which character gets to bed whom. So I hope TVD pulls it together for the next half of the season because now there are so many loose ends - it is getting frustrating yet three episodes were wasted on talking about the cure, the stupid sword, the sire bond, the hybrids revolution and blah blah blah....
Rank: Regular Character
December 15th, 2012 3:40 PM
Remember the movie The Devil Wears Prada when Andrea gets her first orders from Miranda and then when she tells Emily about them she goes like: "She asked me about PR-59, then there was something about Simone, Jackie, Frankie and..someone else, oh and she needs skirts from Calvin Kline".....like thats how I fell about TVD right now - I have no idea what is going on or how it all fits together and the show does not bother to spend enough screen time on any other sl except when it involves Elena and the ridiculous sire bond so I could not care less about whether they will find the cure, or who the hell is Silas and what his deal, or who is exactly Shane and what is his endgame....Srsly, the show has shifted so much focus on the various ships like Delena and Klaroline that its like nothing else matters - look ship whoever you want, but not everybody is interested in which character gets to bed whom. So I hope TVD pulls it together for the next half of the season because now there are so m