The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "We'll Always Have Bourbon Street"

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Last week's Vampire Diaries episode provided plenty of fodder for our Round Table team, as always.

Will Damon set Elena free? Are you buying the sire bond story? Below, Leigh Raines, Carla Day, Steve Marsi and Miranda Wicker join newcomer Alena Chandler delve deeper into "We'll Always Have Bourbon Street."

With another Delena sex scene, more sire bond mysteries and flashbacks on tap, let's get to it!


1. Delena sex scenes thus far on a scale of 1-10 (1 being a cold shower, 10 setting the house on fire):

Carla: 10! That was hot. Now, I get why Delena fans have been clamoring for the couple to get together.

Miranda: 9, because they keep getting interrupted by Stefan and Caroline's whiny conversations about the sire bond.

Alena: 11. I have been waiting for the passion, and it didn't disappoint. They are so hot together!

Leigh: It was so so hot but I'm going with 8. Minus 1 for the way it was cut up with Caroline and Stefan's convo, because who wants to be interrupted during that? And minus another 1 because I could physically hear her nails cutting through the skin on his back drawing blood. However I have no doubt that Ian and Nina's real life sex life is probably a TEN.

Steve: 7.5. Not sounding any alarms just yet, but certainly fiery enough for me to make sure my homeowner's insurance policy provides adequate fire coverage.

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2. Is Caroline justified in her whining?

Carla: She came right up to the point of annoying, but didn't cross it. From a factual point, she's right and as Elena's friend, she has a reason to be concerned. At the same time, her whining didn't help the situation. 

Miranda: No, and I know there are flames coming about this. Tyler was a total jerk when the show started. He's changed. Stefan has been a "cocky ripper douche" within the past year. Both of them have been forgiven for their actions. Damon has changed, too. If Caroline hates Damon because of the way Damon used her as a blood bag when she was human and that's the reason she doesn't want Elena to be with him, then she needs to vocalize that. She needs to stop whining "Damon bad!" and have a conversation.

Alena: Oh Caroline, she just doesn't stop. And she's been one of my favorite vamp's since she was turned, but it drives me crazy how she rags on Damon non-stop but can justify everyone else's actions. There are worse guys in town than Damon (Hello, Klaus!) that she manages to not complain about all the time. Just because she doesn't want to see the good in Damon, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Leigh: I normally love Caroline. In fact she is probably a fave over here at TV Fanatic. I do understand her reasons for disliking Damon, but all of these characters have flaws some worse than others. I wish she'd just try and have a conversation instead of screeching at her. Also it'd be nice to have a sex scene without her complaining intercut with it.

Steve: Since when does a woman have to be justified to start whining about stuff guys do ... am I right ladies??! But seriously now. I don't blame her for harboring ill will towards Damon. How can you not, honestly, given the guy's track record. That said, her opposition was so vehement this week that it felt forced to me at times.

3. Why does Professor Shady... I mean Shane... need 12 Hybrids instead of just 12 humans for his sacrifice?

Carla: That's the question, isn't it? Hybrids haven't been a known creature for long, so why does he want them? My only guess is that sacrificing the Hybrids will provide the ability to rid the world of vampires and werewolves. The evil power would either eliminate them from existence OR more likely tie into the Hunter's Mark and the cure.

Miranda: I'm guessing it has something to do with undoing the magic that entombed the big scary dude he's trying to untomb. Like, only the death of the most unnatural of unnatural beings can get Bonnie to express herself fully. (And I've got a whole rant worked up in my head about the Evil Bonnie just waiting to be unleashed. Maybe I'll leave it in the comments.)

Alena: Who can think about unsired hybrids when there's hot DELENA hooking up happening??? I kid (sort of, not really) I think the 12 unsired Hybrids have something to do with Klaus and whatever ugliness is buried out there that he seems to be plotting on and on about. When the pastor killed himself his note said a greater evil was coming, whatever dark evil magic he's planning on bringing is going to be a total game changer. (But let's hope that it's happening while Damon and Elena are still hooking up. Because, FINALLY!)

Leigh: Noticed in the comments that maybe we should be paying closer attention to the people who were blown up in that house by the pastor. Were there 12? Maybe sacrificing 12 humans didn't do enough for Professor Shane. Maybe unsired hybrids bring more power? Also Miranda's comment about Bonnie "expressing herself" has now put Madonna in my head!

Steve: Leigh and our readers make a great point about the 12 council members. Obviously, the number is not a coincidence, and whatever power he's trying to harness is designed to end vampirism as we know it.

4. How much do you truly believe in the vampire sire bond after everything we've heard?

Carla: I believe in it. Charlotte and her "Literally, every brick" state proved its existence to me.

Miranda: Ergh. Ugh. Bleh. I hate it. Damon says it happens once in a million years and it's happened to him twice in 160? Why was neither Salvatore sired to Katherine? Totally hate it.

Alena: I thought it was all crap until Charlotte. I don't understand how it has happened to Damon twice if it's supposedly so rare? Twice to the same vampire, seems not so rare. My heart started beating faster, and I maybe cheered when Tyler told Elena that it doesn't change feelings. Sure, maybe she's sired, and maybe he'll have to be more careful with what he says to her. But to break her heart, knowing that her feelings are real and her own and true, seems like torture just for the sake of breaking a sire bond.  I hope Damon is selfish and just slams her up against the wall and they have hot vamp sex at the start of next episode. TAKE THAT VAMPIRE SIRE BOND!

Leigh: The vampire sire bond seems less definitive than the hybrid one. I feel like there are loopholes. Charlotte was definitely an extreme case. Elena always had a habit of making her own decisions regardless of pissing off the Salvatores, before she was turned. That said, it's kind of a big annoying roadblock.

Steve: As Alena says, if it happened to Damon so easily twice, how can it also be so rare? And wouldn't some other vampire have tried to dispatch a clingy sired vamp through these means already? As Carla said, I liked that this week better explained it, but it still feels like something of a contrived plot device to me.

5. Is Damon going to set Elena free?

Carla: Yes. He has to for both of them. He won't be happy knowing that she may not be there of her own will. Though, I suspect he will free her in a different way then he did Charlotte. He will find a loophole of sorts that will give her free will without forcing her to forget him forever.

Miranda: I think he will. And I think I'll cry. Why can't he just NOT suggest things to her? I don't need them to talk, you guys. I just need them to have more scenes like the ending of last week and the beginning of this one.

Alena: Clearly, I hope not. I have been waiting for Damon to FINALLY get the girl. If he walks away from her it will break him. After his history with Katherine, I don't think he could survive another devastating heart break (I mean clearly he'd SURVIVE, he's a vampire).

Leigh: Damon loves her enough to try not to be selfish about her, but he also loves her so much that he will try and find a loophole so they can be together. Who's to say that if he releases Elena her feelings will die? It's not like he's going to tell her "don't fall in love with me."

Steve: As Leigh mentioned in her Vampire Diaries review, can't he just order her to do something along the lines of "stop listening to me and following my advice verbatim, but feel free to be incredibly attracted to me still." Best of both worlds if you ask me.

6. Matt and Jeremy were MIA this week. Did you miss them?

Carla: I realized they weren't around, but I didn't miss them. They didn't have anything to add to this particular story. 

Miranda: Matt's growing on me, so yes, I missed him. He and Jeremy must've been pulling doubles at The Grill to pay for that house.

Alena: I didn't so much miss Jeremy, I'm not a big fan of Hunter Jeremy.  But I did miss Matt, I really feel for him.  He is left out of most of the major story lines.  Poor guy.

Leigh: The only character whose presence I always and forever miss is Alaric. Good thing Cult got a premiere date!

Steve: LOL @ Miranda. Those guys have been great this season, and I've enjoyed their storylines more than in the past ... but I admit that I hadn't thought about either until reading this question.


like we just saw with Charlotte (who's obsessed with Damon) obeying his words literally when Elena is like Leigh said : "Elena always had a habit of making her own decisions regardless of pissing off the Salvatores." and how it can be broken is gonna be diffrent form the way used by the werewolves.
5) Couldn't agree more with Leigh's answer. And to be honest, if fighting for the chance to be happy for the 1st time in a long time with the girl that she may have real feelings for him is selfish then I want him to be selfish and fight for that chance which he worked heard to deserve.
6) With everything that happened during this episode I didn't realise their absence till the 2nd time I re-watched this episode but I'm really intrested to see what's coming next with their storylines.


1) It was disturbed by Caroline and Stefan conversation but it's definitely 11/10. These two are like two flames that merged into one.
2) Everything I want to say has been told in Miranda, Alena and Leigh answers. I wouldn't phrased better.
3) It's obvious that it has something to do with bringing this Silis to life again but using 12 hybrids and not humans and the death 12 council members is not good, he's calling for so much power that I don't know how our heros will come to face it.
4) It has been set in a way that can't be doubted but there is alot left to tell about it the fact that it's not based on gratitude like the werewolves sire bond but on feelings so the way in which it's gonna be manifested gonna be different from vampire to vampire


after this scenes how can elena be back with boring stefan?????????...... delena is endgame...they will break up for course.....but i like so much elena now.....and i was a SE in season 1...but they become like a married couple...and i got tired...

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Sire bond - yeah, Elena is sired. But I also think that it doesn't work the same way with everyone. Charlotte and Elena didn't feel the same way as humans. Charlotte went completly insane, she was crazy obsessed with Damon. Elena fell for him basically against herself. If the bond strengthens what they already felt, then it has to affect them differently. We can clearly see that, Elena is still able to fight with Damon on a lot of things. I think Damon will find a way to give Elena her free will. But it will not happen by ordering her to forget her feelings for him. Logically thinking, that would not make any sense, because you can't set someone free by taking the choice away from them. It would be totally unfair to her. None of them knows if that is what she would want for herself. Btw, the final Delena scene was so incredibly beautiful, I cried. It was just amazing...

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Delena sex scenes on a scale of 1-10 - freaking 12! I'm feeling feverish just thinking about it. I would give them 15 if Caroline and Stefan didn't annoy the crap out of me during those scenes. That's pure chemistry, guys. As for Caroline - the fact that she hates Damon is totally justified. But the fact that at the same time she has absolutely no problem with Stefan? That I just don't understand. Suggesting that being a ripper is somehow less wrong than being a man slut was ridiculous. I hate how all of them just fall over themselves to make excuses for Stefan. "Oh, it's not his fault, The Ripper did it". What kind of a screwed up excuse is that? Apparently Stefan is not responsible for his own actions. He’s definitely the biggest hypocrite of them all. As for Professor Shady - I have no idea, but the number 12 keeps coming up, so it won’t be pretty.


5. Well. This is the tragic part. I DO NOT WANT TO. But I know HE WILL. And My Delena heart will cry all night. BUT. I do have hope that he will set her free. They will break the bond and Elena will prove her feelings for Damon to everyone including Damon. 6. Not that much.:) As I said, I was busy replaying DE scenes. Esp.the last one. SAD. Two people who love each other, fighting the urge. Fighting against the stupid bond. Fighting against the mad mad world. Last scene was literally beautiful and tear jerking and as simple with the greatness in it. I loved it. T


1. 11/10 for DEX and 9/10 for Caroline and Stefan's interruption AGAIN. BUT It was awesome. It was beautiful. It was hot. Hell, it was so Delena. 2. No. To some extent, I get it she hates Damon but PLEASE. Don't force your opinion on Elena girl. She is behaving more like Stefan's frn than Elena's. I hope she is not sired to Stefan. LOL. I love Caroline though. But she is over reacting a bit with "Damon-is-bad" mantra. 3. I have a creepy feeling for it. May be its related to cure. BUT. Who cares? I was busy replaying Delena over and over and over again. :) 4. Well, I hated the Idea but now as it has really happened. I saw positive in it. And I think its rare. So, Delena must have that very deep and intense feeling for each other thats why they have this sire bond. WOW. One in million rare kinda bond for one in million kinda couple. How EPIC!!! 5. Well. This is the tragic part. I DO NOT WANT TO. But I know HE WILL. And My Delena heart will cry all night. BUT. I do have hope and I think he will set her free and Elena will prove to Damon and everyone that her feelings are real. There is noway in hell, Delena will come this close and will tear apart. They will be even more stronger and closer. I believe in Delena. It's surely Delena season this time. 6. Not that much! Honestly! As I said, I was busy replaying all Delena scenes. Especially the last one, and cried a lot. Two people loving each other but fighting the urge. Fighting coz of stupid bond and mad mad world. :(


loved that Damon and Elena finally hooked up, but a little worried. Damon does not have a good track record in keeping girls alive:
1. Vicky dead
2. Caroline died and became a vamp
3. Rose dead
4. Reporter girl dead
5. Rebekah put to sleep
6. Sage dead
7. Katherine faked her death but is still alive.....
So the question I now ask is what could possibly happen to Elena.


Keeping my fingers crossed for a sexy Delena scene next episode that isn't all cut up with Stefan and Caroline! Here's hoping :)

Spindae 2o

1.Sex scale! Hmmmm
- 8! Beautiful people but not my type! The blood thing wasn't my thing either but hmmm it was a bit more realistic!
It was a nice setback to S1 where she mouped a lot. But it was more carring about her friends! And that is just C!, maybe it was ennoying but sweet! *.* !
Hmmmm! He has a great goal! And hybrid power will be a lot of energy and let's see will he get power enough and how will he steel it from Bonnie! I think he has a grudge against Klaus and needs a lot of power! Season 2b will be about not killing Klaus AGAIN! ;)
4.set her free!
As a classic Stelena fan we should head towards a Stelena reunion! But in time I see them back together in time for Season finale.
5. Matt and Jer!
I missed Jer! I see him deeply converting into a Haunter! And can't wait to see it develop! Gangnam Style! ;)

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The Vampire Diaries Season 4 Episode 8 Quotes

I finally got Elena to a good place about being a vampire and you two idiots can't stand that she's happy because of me.


Can't we just let ourselves enjoy one secret selfish day before we destroy his?

Damon [to Elena]

The Vampire Diaries Season 4 Episode 8 Music

  Song Artist
Morning parade speechless Speechless Morning Parade iTunes
Blue foundation eyes on fire Eyes On Fire Blue Foundation iTunes
Song It Don't Mean A Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing) TVD NOLA Band