CONTINUED FROM BELOW...past remains unaltered - because September will always save them, no matter how unemotional or emotional he is as an Observer. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!
LOVED the finale. Have no idea how these "Olivia" & "Peter" camps developed because I have always seen the core characters as one family. The inclusion of the Altverse, Olivia's cortexiphan past, and former Fringe cases being factors in saving Earth's future was awesome. Loved the weirdness, Fauxlivia's cool streak of gray in her hair, and learning that Walternate was still at Harvard. Also, how fitting that Windmark was literally crushed by Olivia's emotional response to Etta's memory! What made it the most perfect end for FRINGE though is, in many others' words (not mine), what started with Walter bringing a boy through a portal also ended with him doing the same thing. Walter made it right and his son knew he loved him. The discussion btw him & Donald about parents risking everything for their kids made me tear up. BRAVO!
I'm with you, Triphazard85, with regard to the Olivia Dunham poster.
I'm going to miss this show. A lot of it didn't stand up well to over-analyis, but it's a show after all and meant as entertainment. Would like to have seen Windmark float away after being shot with one of those "cool" bullets, but his end at Olivia's hands (or brain) was more satisfying. Loved it when Walter finally called Astrid by her proper name. Judging from his sly smile, it appeared that he always knew it and it was just his private joke to call her by similar sounding names. I always enjoyed listening for the "Astrid d'jour" on each episode...kind of like watching for Hichhock to make his traditional appearance in his movies. The only thing that left me scratching my head was how and when Walter mailed the white tulip. He went off into the future, but it would have to have happened before the Observer invasion. But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Just sad that the series has ended. My only other remaining addiction is Person of Interest. (Was bummed when Stargate Universe was cancelled). Farewell all, I've also enjoyed reading your reviews and comment (even "Olivia Dunham's rants).
As always, those who are unsatisfied with a time travel-based finale are those who think of time as linear and possibilities as black & white. Therein lies the time paradox and the danger of overthinking these kinds of finales. Michael & Walter convinced future scientists that emotion is of equal important as intellect in the development of future humans. But, that doesn't mean that the Observers erase their own future. Not even December & Donald knew what would happen to them. They just knew they would be different. Donald/September can't be that different as an Observer because then *Michael* wouldn't exist. I propose that the "Observers" (catch-all phrase for future humans) develop with emotions and that they continue to time jump because they can & are curious. Also, that even though they try not to change events of the past, an Observer with emotions would be less able to resist saving a father & son who are drowning. That's the reason the Bishops past remains unaltered.
Ok just to explain my theory why Peter still exists. Peter still exists due to the fact that he is from a different timeline. Peter is an anomaly he should never have existed in the first place due to the machine in season 3 which had had nothing to do with the observers. Hence September did not save him from the lake, Walter did not cross over to the other side etc.
I will miss this show all the characters were well thought out. It had a good balance of drama, Sci-fi, Humour and action.
The only thing I am glad about in this ending is the fact I never have to see any of the comments from the narrow minded, obsessed and mentally disturbed poster known as 'Olivia Dunham'.
Ok, just saw the part again about Peter finding the tape and watching it and Walter explains when Peter gets the letter, he will not understand it, will probably call Walter to ask about it, get no answer, then go to the lab, where he will not be. I would imagine that September told Walter of the future invasion and they started making plans well before 2015. But how could he not have warned Olivia and Peter ahead of time if he already knew? I guess if the invasion hadn't happened in the first place and Walter was still there, he would have come up with some crazy reason for sending Peter the tulip.
@ Endoftime figure= Please, tell us how you really feel :-P.....
I think I read someone mentioning Fauxolivia saying "So you found her" meaning Etta. It is clear that we missed Olivia's entire explanation from that day in the park to where they are today. It wasn't necessary as it would have added time to the show, we already know it, and Fauxolivia's remark lets us know that she and Lincoln now know the whole story. While I too would have also like more time on the other side, time was not on Olivia's side and I think they were trying to portray that. She couldn't sit and have dinner and drinks with them, she had a mission.
Loved it & will miss it.
Sorry for the stupid typos, re-watching the finale as I type is never a good idea. ;-)
Also, was any explanation given for Olivia's missing wedding ring? I couldn't tell from the reset back to the park if she was wearing one. Also, as gross as the exposure to "fringe" events was, some of the things we saw explained the screen fades: the butterfly,the six-finger hand print, and I know we saw the frog and apple on the doors when they went through that portal to find Michael. I would have liked an explanation as to the importance of the sea-horse, the leaf, the frog, the apple, the butterfly, the handprint..have I missed any? I'm glad Walter didn't die, but I hope Peter, Olivia and Astrid find the tapes. But I got the impression that they weren't made until well after the invasion. Could be wrong, though, since Walter had no idea.
Just a few observations: I also had wondered if the Observer's never existed,then September could not have save Walter and Peter from the lake. So apparently they had some way to "restet" time to 2015? I don't think Olivia smashed Windmark. She made the lights go out which caused him to look at cock his head like a lizard (kudos to Nina!) which gave Michael his moment. THat child was powerful, as the interrogation revealed. After Windmark was smashed and Michael put his finger to his lips: "shh, our secret". I am wondering if at some point Walter gave Peter inserted a submlinal message in Peter that would be triggered by the tulip. Maybe in 2015 mail delivery was so good that you could guarantee a delivery date for first class mail (in our dreams) I just hope he wasn't with Astrid and then he went "poof" as he was milking Jean. That would be too traumatic. :-)
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