I loved this episode with that said....all I can say is WOW for Huck! The torture he took and all I thought about was he is not going to give you all a thing so STOP! I agree that Liv wasn't herself in this ep. As for the reach out from Millie, well Liv knows her place....she is the other woman and Millie needs to get over it and be the wife and First Lady. They will never be friends so don't fake it. I love the baby scene that was cute... but I can't help but think the happiness will end fast for him and Cyrus if he keeps digging in that voter tampering story. I still don’t trust Verna and I think it is too soon to think Hollis is behind everything if he is he’s not alone and I feel Verna, and Sally Langston is in it with him. Really, I think it’s bigger than all of them and who knows it’s more in likely someone we didn’t see coming. I’m like Quinn, why is Hollis still free if you think he was behind all of this unless there’s more to the story and they need to g
And Cyrus and his husband and the baby. I just don't know. This voter rigging thing will blow up and I am trying to not be happy for anything coming their way in the mean time. I believe that when Cyrus told him the truth, and said he didn't have a job either...that was Shonda saying that Mellie retracted the letter.
Olivia wasn't herself in this episode. And the only reason I can come to that that is, is because all her people are in extreme turmoil all episode. Huck and Fitz are two of the people nearest to her heart, and Huck is being tortured to the edge of his life and Fitz is laying in a coma fighting for his. And her people aren't right, and so her world isn't right. I don't like Edison, and honestly couldn't give a crap about him as far as if he stays around to fight her. He knows that Olivia will fight to the death for her people, and in those moments he knew that Fitz was her person and would always be that to her. Edison has no place in her life. It really was time he realized it. I was disappointed in Olivia's reaction to Mellie when Mellie was just trying to reach out to her about Fitz. There is no way that it was easy for Mellie to acknowledge that this is hard for Olivia, the other woman in her marriage. But she was reaching out for someone, there has been no family surround
As always Harrison is another strong favorite. His unwavering loyalty to Olivia makes me wish I knew him. When he gives his lines about how there is another layer to politics, where the real decisions are made and how he knows Olivia is part of that...and then Olivia walks in saying that Fitz is their new client. And their faces. I was all YES YES YES! I loved it. I love Harrison, the true Gladiator.
I can not WAIT for Shonda to tell us what is in Huck's file. When Sally asks if she has no one like him on her team, that can do what he does....and then she looks at the pages of his file and her expression tries to remain unchanged but gives just enough to say that those two pages of his file give details of his work that I can't wait to know about. I find Huck to be one of the most fascinating characters on Scandal. There is so much to him that's secret that I just can't get enough of him on screen. There were tears watching him at the table, I hurt so much for him, I want to fix him and heal him. And I am so broken that he's so broken.
Jordan
January 11th, 2013 12:58 PM
I agree with the review. Scandal is one of my favorite shows, but this definitely wasn't my favorite episodes. My favorite scenes were the ones with Mellie and I also liked watching her and Olivia working together. Harrison also continues to grow on me....they really need to use him more!.
The Olivia/Edison drama was definitely strained. I'm not a fan of Edison, but the way Olivia treated him, made me feel a little sorry for him. Hollis behind the plot did seem a little too easy, I think...perhaps I missed a key part, but was it definitely confirmed that he was the culpirt? I still think it could have been the Vice President (maybe because I dislike her so much!), or Billy Chambers, who was never really confirmed dead, I think. I'm not looking forward to next week's episode, and seeing the effects of Fitz' brain injury on his personality and ability to act as president. I'm predicting that Sally will try to have him declared as non-competent.
tracene
January 11th, 2013 12:02 PM
thought Harrison’s dialogue was awesome!!! the whole tier of DC were the really power works
Delilah
January 11th, 2013 11:47 AM
contd
Other things, Huck's "interrogation" was brutal to watch. Super scary to think that's happening to human beings in the real world.
Becky got was coming to her.
Olivia is just irritated with Edison as most of us are, THANK GOD. He's angry though and I don't think he's going away quietly. She should have never have gotten back involved with him again.
Fitz is awake! Momentarily, all is right with the Scandal world again. The promos next week look gut wrenching though. Poor Fitz. He's going to really need Olivia to be by his side and for real this time.
Delilah
January 11th, 2013 11:45 AM
First off, this wasn't meant to be a season finale, episode 13 was. They were renewed for an initial 13 episodes remember? Secondly, I thoroughly enjoy this episode. It not only provided answers, it posed some new questions in the way only Scandal does. Does anyone REALLY think Hollis is the sole person behind Fitz's assasination? Just like we all thought Billy Chambers were responsible for Amanda Tanner's death? It turned out to be Cyrus and I'm sure there's more to this plotline than what some are interpreting as a concluded plot. People who think this have not been watching the same show I have.
Other things, Huck's "interrogation" was brutal to watch. Super scary to think that's happening to human beings in the real world.
Becky got was coming to her.
Olivia is just irritated with Edison as most of us are, THANK GOD. He's angry though and I don't think he's going away quietly. She should have never have gotten back involved with him again.
Fitz is awake! Momentarily, all i
Overthinking
January 11th, 2013 11:39 AM
Hands down one of my favorite episode in S2. Everyone from OPA brought their A game. We got to see the no nonsence Olivia the fixer we got introduced to in s1. Well, she had to bring her A game to try and save the 2 favorite men in her life. Harrison continues to show leadership & Abby/Quinn followed his advise of "we do not question Liv on this" so they are beginning to respect him as a leader. Verna owned up to what she did but she still one of the big dogs & shouldn't be trusted. I think Sally and Holllis have been working together since the beginning. Yes Hollis was/is working everyone. I too could have done without the torture too but Huck acting was impeccable. Goodbye Edison.
Rose
January 11th, 2013 11:22 AM
I think everyone is reading WAY too into the Verna thing.. she's not an idiot.. she made a comment to Olivia about Huck looking an awful lot like the suspect.. and Olivia's face gave away that Huck was indeed the suspect. Sally was trying to push Verna out .. her only way to not get pushed out was to use information concerning who may have shot the president.. It was a power play to stay in power .. nothing more. I don't believe she planted the phone on hollis, and I don't believe that she is behind Fitz's attempted assasination. Hollis on the other hand, I do believe he is.. he wasn't getting his way with Fitz in power.. however with Sally in power, his agenda would be met...I think there is more too it, but I dont think it includes Verna at all
whateva
January 11th, 2013 10:29 AM
I think Hollis is behind it but I don't think he is working alone. Edison was giving me some shady vibes last night. I wouldn't be surprised if Hollis is apart of another round table.
Nikki
January 11th, 2013 10:27 AM
I agree with you. I love Scandal, however was dissaponited with the Season 3 premier last night.
CJ
January 11th, 2013 10:22 AM
@ Miranda: I don't have a problem with Hollis' predictability. People like him are usually single minded in what they want and just throw their money around to make things move in their favor. I think his character can remain a straight shooter, and use his minions to develop character shifts, complex plots, and scandalous actions. Fine with me!
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
January 11th, 2013 10:21 AM
@K, well, that's unfortunate because if you'd kept reading you'd realize that just because it wasn't my PERSONAL favorite, I still liked it as part of the ongoing story of Scandal.
And no, we didn't see the conversation between Verna and Hollis, so now I, too, am wondering if she planted the phone or had it planted there. Again, Hollis being behind this all by himself is just too easy.
Verna's words regarding Huck's arrest were:
Verna: I'm so sorry, Liv. It's all my fault.
Olivia: What's your fault?
Verna: Huck. I'm the reason they took Huck away.
CJ
January 11th, 2013 10:13 AM
This was one of the sharpest episodes. I don't think it was overwrought at all (or like you said 'chock full of info'. Although, I closed my eyes at the torturing scenes...don't like that kind of violence and don't think it needs to be that graphical to make the point.
Kate Burton's (Sally Langston) acting was superb, she's a really convincing VP-more than Biden I might add. She gives me confidence that a female POTUS will be soon here!
Riley
January 11th, 2013 10:05 AM
The scene Verna mentioned in Hollis' office...am I drawing a blank or did that actually happen in a prior episode. I don't remember that scene at all.
Ann
January 11th, 2013 9:48 AM
First, let me say that I LOVE LOVE LOVE this show! I will be extremely disappointed if Shonda gets bored with it the way she did Private Practice and Grey's allowing the writing and storylines to dip into the absurdly pathetic and boring categories.
I thought last night's episode was fabulous! I was glud from beginning to end. I don't find it obvious or predictable tat Hollis would be responsible for Grant's shooting. In fact, I was shocked. Why work so hard and spend so much money buying his trip to the White House only to turn around and try to kill him? If Hollis was worried about the public finding out, I would have thought he would have tried to have David and/or Cyrus's husband killed.
I absolutely despise the Sally character! I can't wait until she goes loudly into the abyss! I hope she is forced to resign somehow.
k
January 11th, 2013 9:37 AM
You lost me at "this wasn't my favorite episode"
Nisan
January 11th, 2013 9:06 AM
All Scandal episodes are great, way better than a lot of other shows. So an episode like this one is just great in a different way. Don't know what show you watched but I was riveted to my seat with my mouth open. Harrison is a gladiator. Olivia and Mellie, Mellie and Langston (Langston really doesn't know who she is messing with she just thinks she does). Verna, now if you think about it, she probably put that phone in Hollis' draw, why would she all of a sudden tell Olivia everything, and she didn't say I gave up Huck, she said I may have been involved in getting him arrested. May have, WOW, what a Bitch. Why would she even know Huck was involved? Verna is the one, gotta be. If she has cancer why worry if everyone finds out, She is a Supreme Court Justice, you can't fire them, the job is for life, so, something fishy there. David, David is a white hat. So much more I could say, not enough time, not enough space :-), I love Scandal and I am a gladiator.
trina
January 11th, 2013 8:55 AM
I'm thinking of the entire picture... It's possible that Hollis is working for someone too but we shall see. I liked the episode. I think the drama with Edison was necessary b/c he needs to go... lovers can turn into enemies really fast, and nothing says I love you than a threat to prosecute. I've never liked the guy.
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
January 11th, 2013 8:39 AM
@gem, I definitely think/hope that Hollis is somewhat of a misdirect. If he's the be-all, end-all of this conspiracy, it's going to fall flat for me simply because, as I said earlier, he's too predictable. And yes, there does come a time for episodes that answer questions and tie things together, but I feel like the first episode back after a break shouldn't be that episode, you know?
However, as @Kim pointed out, this was a potential season finale, so that makes a little more sense regarding why it felt so neatly wrapped up.
And @Fudgefase, yes. YES. It doesn't always have to be waterboarding. Sensory deprivation/overstimulation would be just as torturous and effective to drive the point home.
Fudgefase
January 11th, 2013 6:53 AM
Don't hit me (no pun intended) but is anyone else getting bored with the 'waterboarding' scene? Everywhere seems to have it now if 'torture' is mentioned. It's as if all these actors want to try it out for themselves! Yes, waterboarding is undoubtedly torture - but hey, let's move on. There are other techniques that could be featured. In Hucks case some flashing lights and loud noises would have had him cowering in a small cell. It doesn't always have to be waterboarding!
Kim
January 11th, 2013 12:08 AM
I thought it was strong. This episode was supposed to serve as a season finale, b/c they weren't sure if the back nine eps were going to get picked up. I liked it I thought it was good and I was on the edge of my seat.
gem
January 11th, 2013 12:01 AM
I get what you're saying Miranda but I truly believe that we're being lolled right now by Shonda into believing certain possibilities as you pointed out - Verna - I believe that we're all looking at Hollis bc rightly he wants what he wants and he'll achieve his goals by any means necessary but somehow Verna is a much bigger player in this political game than meets the eye.
I won't be expecting a lot of twists and turns bc some episodes will need to offer explanations to all those questions that we've all been asking. I'll get to see that next week as well has some Olitz connection which will be terrific!
Cyrus: Let me get this straight. Highly trained Black Ops assassins broke into your home and tried to kill you and instead of, oh, making a run toward reason...
January 11th, 2013 4:43 PM
I loved this episode with that said....all I can say is WOW for Huck! The torture he took and all I thought about was he is not going to give you all a thing so STOP! I agree that Liv wasn't herself in this ep. As for the reach out from Millie, well Liv knows her place....she is the other woman and Millie needs to get over it and be the wife and First Lady. They will never be friends so don't fake it. I love the baby scene that was cute... but I can't help but think the happiness will end fast for him and Cyrus if he keeps digging in that voter tampering story. I still don’t trust Verna and I think it is too soon to think Hollis is behind everything if he is he’s not alone and I feel Verna, and Sally Langston is in it with him. Really, I think it’s bigger than all of them and who knows it’s more in likely someone we didn’t see coming. I’m like Quinn, why is Hollis still free if you think he was behind all of this unless there’s more to the story and they need to g
Rank: Extra
January 11th, 2013 1:52 PM
And Cyrus and his husband and the baby. I just don't know. This voter rigging thing will blow up and I am trying to not be happy for anything coming their way in the mean time. I believe that when Cyrus told him the truth, and said he didn't have a job either...that was Shonda saying that Mellie retracted the letter.
Rank: Extra
January 11th, 2013 1:52 PM
Olivia wasn't herself in this episode. And the only reason I can come to that that is, is because all her people are in extreme turmoil all episode. Huck and Fitz are two of the people nearest to her heart, and Huck is being tortured to the edge of his life and Fitz is laying in a coma fighting for his. And her people aren't right, and so her world isn't right. I don't like Edison, and honestly couldn't give a crap about him as far as if he stays around to fight her. He knows that Olivia will fight to the death for her people, and in those moments he knew that Fitz was her person and would always be that to her. Edison has no place in her life. It really was time he realized it. I was disappointed in Olivia's reaction to Mellie when Mellie was just trying to reach out to her about Fitz. There is no way that it was easy for Mellie to acknowledge that this is hard for Olivia, the other woman in her marriage. But she was reaching out for someone, there has been no family surround
Rank: Extra
January 11th, 2013 1:51 PM
As always Harrison is another strong favorite. His unwavering loyalty to Olivia makes me wish I knew him. When he gives his lines about how there is another layer to politics, where the real decisions are made and how he knows Olivia is part of that...and then Olivia walks in saying that Fitz is their new client. And their faces. I was all YES YES YES! I loved it. I love Harrison, the true Gladiator.
Rank: Extra
January 11th, 2013 1:51 PM
I can not WAIT for Shonda to tell us what is in Huck's file. When Sally asks if she has no one like him on her team, that can do what he does....and then she looks at the pages of his file and her expression tries to remain unchanged but gives just enough to say that those two pages of his file give details of his work that I can't wait to know about. I find Huck to be one of the most fascinating characters on Scandal. There is so much to him that's secret that I just can't get enough of him on screen. There were tears watching him at the table, I hurt so much for him, I want to fix him and heal him. And I am so broken that he's so broken.
January 11th, 2013 12:58 PM
I agree with the review. Scandal is one of my favorite shows, but this definitely wasn't my favorite episodes. My favorite scenes were the ones with Mellie and I also liked watching her and Olivia working together. Harrison also continues to grow on me....they really need to use him more!.
The Olivia/Edison drama was definitely strained. I'm not a fan of Edison, but the way Olivia treated him, made me feel a little sorry for him. Hollis behind the plot did seem a little too easy, I think...perhaps I missed a key part, but was it definitely confirmed that he was the culpirt? I still think it could have been the Vice President (maybe because I dislike her so much!), or Billy Chambers, who was never really confirmed dead, I think. I'm not looking forward to next week's episode, and seeing the effects of Fitz' brain injury on his personality and ability to act as president. I'm predicting that Sally will try to have him declared as non-competent.
January 11th, 2013 12:02 PM
thought Harrison’s dialogue was awesome!!! the whole tier of DC were the really power works
January 11th, 2013 11:47 AM
contd
Other things, Huck's "interrogation" was brutal to watch. Super scary to think that's happening to human beings in the real world.
Becky got was coming to her.
Olivia is just irritated with Edison as most of us are, THANK GOD. He's angry though and I don't think he's going away quietly. She should have never have gotten back involved with him again.
Fitz is awake! Momentarily, all is right with the Scandal world again. The promos next week look gut wrenching though. Poor Fitz. He's going to really need Olivia to be by his side and for real this time.
January 11th, 2013 11:45 AM
First off, this wasn't meant to be a season finale, episode 13 was. They were renewed for an initial 13 episodes remember? Secondly, I thoroughly enjoy this episode. It not only provided answers, it posed some new questions in the way only Scandal does. Does anyone REALLY think Hollis is the sole person behind Fitz's assasination? Just like we all thought Billy Chambers were responsible for Amanda Tanner's death? It turned out to be Cyrus and I'm sure there's more to this plotline than what some are interpreting as a concluded plot. People who think this have not been watching the same show I have.
Other things, Huck's "interrogation" was brutal to watch. Super scary to think that's happening to human beings in the real world.
Becky got was coming to her.
Olivia is just irritated with Edison as most of us are, THANK GOD. He's angry though and I don't think he's going away quietly. She should have never have gotten back involved with him again.
Fitz is awake! Momentarily, all i
January 11th, 2013 11:39 AM
Hands down one of my favorite episode in S2. Everyone from OPA brought their A game. We got to see the no nonsence Olivia the fixer we got introduced to in s1. Well, she had to bring her A game to try and save the 2 favorite men in her life. Harrison continues to show leadership & Abby/Quinn followed his advise of "we do not question Liv on this" so they are beginning to respect him as a leader. Verna owned up to what she did but she still one of the big dogs & shouldn't be trusted. I think Sally and Holllis have been working together since the beginning. Yes Hollis was/is working everyone. I too could have done without the torture too but Huck acting was impeccable. Goodbye Edison.
January 11th, 2013 11:22 AM
I think everyone is reading WAY too into the Verna thing.. she's not an idiot.. she made a comment to Olivia about Huck looking an awful lot like the suspect.. and Olivia's face gave away that Huck was indeed the suspect. Sally was trying to push Verna out .. her only way to not get pushed out was to use information concerning who may have shot the president.. It was a power play to stay in power .. nothing more. I don't believe she planted the phone on hollis, and I don't believe that she is behind Fitz's attempted assasination. Hollis on the other hand, I do believe he is.. he wasn't getting his way with Fitz in power.. however with Sally in power, his agenda would be met...I think there is more too it, but I dont think it includes Verna at all
January 11th, 2013 10:29 AM
I think Hollis is behind it but I don't think he is working alone. Edison was giving me some shady vibes last night. I wouldn't be surprised if Hollis is apart of another round table.
January 11th, 2013 10:27 AM
I agree with you. I love Scandal, however was dissaponited with the Season 3 premier last night.
January 11th, 2013 10:22 AM
@ Miranda: I don't have a problem with Hollis' predictability. People like him are usually single minded in what they want and just throw their money around to make things move in their favor. I think his character can remain a straight shooter, and use his minions to develop character shifts, complex plots, and scandalous actions. Fine with me!
Rank: Staff Member
January 11th, 2013 10:21 AM
@K, well, that's unfortunate because if you'd kept reading you'd realize that just because it wasn't my PERSONAL favorite, I still liked it as part of the ongoing story of Scandal.
And no, we didn't see the conversation between Verna and Hollis, so now I, too, am wondering if she planted the phone or had it planted there. Again, Hollis being behind this all by himself is just too easy.
Verna's words regarding Huck's arrest were:
Verna: I'm so sorry, Liv. It's all my fault.
Olivia: What's your fault?
Verna: Huck. I'm the reason they took Huck away.
January 11th, 2013 10:13 AM
This was one of the sharpest episodes. I don't think it was overwrought at all (or like you said 'chock full of info'. Although, I closed my eyes at the torturing scenes...don't like that kind of violence and don't think it needs to be that graphical to make the point.
Kate Burton's (Sally Langston) acting was superb, she's a really convincing VP-more than Biden I might add. She gives me confidence that a female POTUS will be soon here!
January 11th, 2013 10:05 AM
The scene Verna mentioned in Hollis' office...am I drawing a blank or did that actually happen in a prior episode. I don't remember that scene at all.
January 11th, 2013 9:48 AM
First, let me say that I LOVE LOVE LOVE this show! I will be extremely disappointed if Shonda gets bored with it the way she did Private Practice and Grey's allowing the writing and storylines to dip into the absurdly pathetic and boring categories.
I thought last night's episode was fabulous! I was glud from beginning to end. I don't find it obvious or predictable tat Hollis would be responsible for Grant's shooting. In fact, I was shocked. Why work so hard and spend so much money buying his trip to the White House only to turn around and try to kill him? If Hollis was worried about the public finding out, I would have thought he would have tried to have David and/or Cyrus's husband killed.
I absolutely despise the Sally character! I can't wait until she goes loudly into the abyss! I hope she is forced to resign somehow.
January 11th, 2013 9:37 AM
You lost me at "this wasn't my favorite episode"
January 11th, 2013 9:06 AM
All Scandal episodes are great, way better than a lot of other shows. So an episode like this one is just great in a different way. Don't know what show you watched but I was riveted to my seat with my mouth open. Harrison is a gladiator. Olivia and Mellie, Mellie and Langston (Langston really doesn't know who she is messing with she just thinks she does). Verna, now if you think about it, she probably put that phone in Hollis' draw, why would she all of a sudden tell Olivia everything, and she didn't say I gave up Huck, she said I may have been involved in getting him arrested. May have, WOW, what a Bitch. Why would she even know Huck was involved? Verna is the one, gotta be. If she has cancer why worry if everyone finds out, She is a Supreme Court Justice, you can't fire them, the job is for life, so, something fishy there. David, David is a white hat. So much more I could say, not enough time, not enough space :-), I love Scandal and I am a gladiator.
January 11th, 2013 8:55 AM
I'm thinking of the entire picture... It's possible that Hollis is working for someone too but we shall see. I liked the episode. I think the drama with Edison was necessary b/c he needs to go... lovers can turn into enemies really fast, and nothing says I love you than a threat to prosecute. I've never liked the guy.
Rank: Staff Member
January 11th, 2013 8:39 AM
@gem, I definitely think/hope that Hollis is somewhat of a misdirect. If he's the be-all, end-all of this conspiracy, it's going to fall flat for me simply because, as I said earlier, he's too predictable. And yes, there does come a time for episodes that answer questions and tie things together, but I feel like the first episode back after a break shouldn't be that episode, you know?
However, as @Kim pointed out, this was a potential season finale, so that makes a little more sense regarding why it felt so neatly wrapped up.
And @Fudgefase, yes. YES. It doesn't always have to be waterboarding. Sensory deprivation/overstimulation would be just as torturous and effective to drive the point home.
January 11th, 2013 6:53 AM
Don't hit me (no pun intended) but is anyone else getting bored with the 'waterboarding' scene? Everywhere seems to have it now if 'torture' is mentioned. It's as if all these actors want to try it out for themselves! Yes, waterboarding is undoubtedly torture - but hey, let's move on. There are other techniques that could be featured. In Hucks case some flashing lights and loud noises would have had him cowering in a small cell. It doesn't always have to be waterboarding!
January 11th, 2013 12:08 AM
I thought it was strong. This episode was supposed to serve as a season finale, b/c they weren't sure if the back nine eps were going to get picked up. I liked it I thought it was good and I was on the edge of my seat.
January 11th, 2013 12:01 AM
I get what you're saying Miranda but I truly believe that we're being lolled right now by Shonda into believing certain possibilities as you pointed out - Verna - I believe that we're all looking at Hollis bc rightly he wants what he wants and he'll achieve his goals by any means necessary but somehow Verna is a much bigger player in this political game than meets the eye.
I won't be expecting a lot of twists and turns bc some episodes will need to offer explanations to all those questions that we've all been asking. I'll get to see that next week as well has some Olitz connection which will be terrific!