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I agree with many opinions that have been posted here. For me it hasn't been the same since season 5 but I stuck with it because I'm such a fan of the show and for the first 5 seasons it was only Supernatural for me. Even though I didn't like where they were taking the show in season 6,7 I just couldn't give up on it. That was until season 8 started, the funny thing is I really like season 8 because the cases and the whole vibe of the season reminds me of So 1&2 but the bond between the brothers is not there anymore, the chemistry between the actors is not there anymore...so no matter how good or enjoyable a storyline is...it's just not enough. Carver has been with the show for a long time so he must know how much the fan base cares about the brother's bond. To have Sam give up on his brother without a good reason it's just stupid writing. I feel like he is not even happy Dean is alive because that means he and Amelia can t be together. I really hope a fan has the chance to ask the boys during a con what they think of Sam's decision.


It's not even close--Sam and the blonde LARP CHICK (played by the beautiful Andrea Brooks) clicked naturally. None of the force stilted quality we have with Sam and Amelia. Sam should have went with Larpy! I was hoping Sam would change his mind & meet up w/her later -She had a lot more personality than Amelia!

How did the writers screw this one up? It genuinely puzzles me. Especially since imo much they have done is working very well.


I loved this episode for all its goofiness it showed that Sam and Dean can still have fun even if they have all these problems with Crowley etc. I wish they bring back the likable Sam not this "douche" as we are seeing him. Deans always cool but Sam was so much better before. Writers pick up your pens *sigh. Charlie and Dean's (friendly) chemistry was fun to watch, hope they bring her back :) Overall fun Episode, oh I want to watch the next episode yesterday already lolz


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I don't believe Jeremy C and the writers are that clever.

It doesn't look like we're going to get an explanation as to why Sam didn't look for Dean. Dean disappeared in Time After Time in Season 7 and didn't "lose it." He was proactive in getting Dean back, contacted Jody Mills so she could assist, so I don't buy some fans' theories that he was grieving. Dean had disappeared, Sam didn't know what happened to him, whether he wsa dead or alive, but according to Carver, Sam was, "Yay, now that Dean's gone, I'll live my normal life."

Not good enough, Carver. Sam always had a streak of self-absorption, but you were never in doubt that he cared for Dean. In Mystery Spot, Sam cared about Dean.

The magic has gone from Supernatural. It's going to die horribly, just like the X-Files. Such a shame.


@Richard. Yeah, pretty much. People sit down to watch Arrow and leave the TV on. If I was a new viewer who started fresh in S8, I would be an ex-viewer by now!

And yes, if Spn were still showing on Friday nights, this show would be heading for cancellation - which would be well deserved. It's sad to see this show going downhill, and so quickly.

@Danna, I'm blaming the writers for the deterioration of Sam's character. Why they are writing Sam so hateful, I have no idea. I've been finding Jared's performance difficult to fathom, but perhaps he hates his storyline? The Js are still friends. However, who knows what is going on behind the scenes? I'll stop watching if Jared is forced off the show.

Maybe there is a reason for Jared's below par performance, and and there's a reason for Sam being so awful, which will be revealed before the end of the season. I'm not holding out much hope, however, because I don't believe the writers, or Jeremy Carver, for that matter, are that clever.

This show has had the life sucked out of it. I did enjoy parts of 8x11, but the magic has gone, that's for sure.


It's getting so hard to keep watching this show. Sam is just awful, I don t know if it is the actor's fault or the writers. No matter how they justify it I can t get past the fact that Sam just gave up on Dean...For me Sam has always been selfish but now with this sullen never ending attitude he is just boring, no fun, simply unwatchable character. Also are the actors fighting in real life because I swear I don t see any chemistry between them anymore...I had high hopes for this season with Carver but it has been such a disappointment.


@ Tiddlywinks

So because SPN follows Arrow, those who watch Arrow are forced to watch SPN to artificially prop up SPN's ratings?


A mildly amusing episode that provided a few laughs. It would have been better if repellent Amelia had not been mentioned at all.

I HATED that scene where Charlie tells Dean that he's a dick for sending a fake text message. Please. Why would Dean spill his secrets and can the show stop blaming Dean for everything that goes wrong for Sam?

In fact, can the show simply drop mentioning the ghastly, vile Amelia and pretend it never happened? Can the show PLEASE redeem Sam and make him likable again? Is it really that difficult to not write him as a self centred douche? He is a hunter. Please make him one, not this wet rag. Where is Sam Winchester these days?

Memo to producers and writers - it is ONLY Arrow propping up Supernatural. If it had remained in its Friday slot, Supernatural would be dead.

Please improve, show. And FORGET AMELIA. PRETEND SHE DOES NOT EXIST. Even when she is not on screen, she is horrible.


this was a pretty good episode the bravehart bit at the end i just found irritating but aye overall an enjoyable episode. 8.5/10


What was that? Come on S8, lift your game. There were a few funny lines, and some good acting, but this episode was very ordinary. If a newcomer saw this episode, they wouldn't watch the show. Please writers, give us the goods! Also, please stop trying to put an argument that Sam was starting to have some "normalacy" to his life - he was committing adultery. He had no choice, he had to move on because Amelia's husband was back (from the dead like Days of Our Lives). He and Amelia had nothing in common, and his "romance" was boring. She knew nothing about him or his hunting. His desertion and indifference to Dean's disappearance was dishonourable as a hunter, and John Winchester would have been ashamed. The star of the show should be a hero, so please write Sam as one.

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