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i love the series but some things in this ep, on second viewing, fall flat. when jane says the thing about volker being inside lisbon's head and that's a bad neighborhood, it's flawed construction on the writers's part. he's attempting to express concern for lisbon but winds up describing how getting into lisbon's brain would be bad for VOLKER not lisbon. a jibe at lisbon minus any internal logic for the story. patrick's smarter than that.
worse was jane using perfume to identify two possible lovers. if he had just gotten the guy bragging about his addiction to women to admit trying to sleep with her (no lame perfume stunt necessary), the "here comes the real boyfriend" would have been great when a heretofore unidentified guy leapt across the room. that would have been a a perfect patrick manipulation. hard for a writer to write for a character who's smarter than the writer.
i would have really liked it if Libson had shown more guile in investigating Volker. 1st she didnt think that volker's PA would be in danger after talking to her(the guy did massacre a village!!) and then this investigation was so by the book and standard (not the way to catch super bad guys in tv land ofcourse). It would have been nice if Lisbon did investigate the case until Volker's inevitable link to RJ was revealed then Jane would step in. At this point i don't think the homeland security guy is a bad guy, i think he may also be after RJ and knows of the connection with volker and may have been after RJ as long as jane or even longer
i also think volker is linked to red john, that's why they're dragging this plot out. How will the CBI ever close cases without jane? I know it's his show but c'mon. Red john started as a garden variety serial killer, who does his own dirty work but now he is a super intelligent sociopath with cult like followers?! This build up almost means the reveal will be anticlimactic. Also on red dawn, isnt it interesting that the red-haired van pelt joined the cbi soon after jane started
Jane will be The Hero in all of this! Can't wait to see it.
I loved the show. It had interruptions on programming, blank spots. I hate that it's on Sunday night. I love the humor and the drama, it's my second favorite show. Please put it back on a week night. How about Friday, 7 p.m.? or any other week night. Simon keeps you guessing what he will come up with next.
See we CAN have non-RJ arcs!
^continued: the ratings for the non delayed CBS football weekend of the last episode of 2012 were horrendous and even though ratings aren't anywhere close to the only thing considered in the status of a show, such low ratings on a consistent basis would have been a kiss of death. If the number reported in the comments is true, that's the best ratings since the season opener(which tend to have one of the highest ratings of the year) and that's a good sign. If you're a fan but haven't really been keeping right up to date and not watching live, now's the time to do so, it can make a small impact and that small impact can tilt the scales between renewal and cancellation for a whole new 24 episodes.
@keith Vlasak: I've been following the same site you're referring to all year, there calling it only 50-50 as opposed to more likely to be renewed than cancelled for a couple reasons a) the deal they have with Warner Bros doesn't give them additional money in some areas I don't remember off the top of my head ie less incentive if its going to keep costing more and more to produce b) NCIS NY is likely gone but CBS is premiering a new show in the fall Golden Boy, if that catches on, as the site reported, that means either the Mentalist or the Good Wife gets axed. Between those two the ratings are similar, but The Good Wife has always been CBS's little pet project and scares me as a Mentalist fan.
The Sunday Night Football/delayed CBS football is a huge issue, but CBS knew about this before then put the Mentalist in that spot, you don't put a show in that spot if you value it. With that said, the ratings from last night were quite good, the ratings on a non delayed CBS football day for
As for this week's episode, I like that they are bringing back Volker as Lisbon's very own "Red John"-type of foil. I've enjoyed watching Cusick on FRINGE and here. But, IMO, that confrontation he had w/Teresa was SO CORNY! Maybe it's just me. But, I half expected him to start twirling a fake mustache and wiggling his eyebrows because the villain dialogue was ridiculous. As a woman over the age of 40, it doesn't matter how much money a man has. The line, "You look good. Been working out?" is so stupifyingly clumsy as either a pick-up, or weird kind of intimidation, that I bet 90% of women would LOL and roll their eyes as they walked out. SERIOUSLY? That's the BEST Volker's got? LOL & snort in his face, Teresa. That'll break his attitude.
CONTINUED FROM BELOW...approach. If you look at a list of the highest-rated 12 shows every week, CBS has more than half of them, and they intend to keep it that way.
Re: THE MENTALIST's ratings - The ratings you see reported don't mean anything compared to its competition. What *really* matters is where a show is in relation to the rest of the network's offerings, i.e. compared to THE GOOD WIFE, CSI, BLUE BLOODS, etc. A network will always keep its top shows, and get rid of the bottom 4 or 5 to make room for new shows in the pipeline. It doesn't even matter if their lowest series consistently win their time slots. They're gone! This is why WITHOUT A TRACE was cancelled during a year of excellent ratings. The cost of producing certain shows also matters. If a show has a large, expensive cast and costs more to produce because it might be shot somewhere other than Hollywood, yes, the chances are greater that it will be cancelled. It's all numbers, very logical, and not the slightest bit emotional - which ticks fans off because they are all emotion. Like it or not, CBS went from being the Old People's Network to the #1 Network on TV with this
You think they're cleverly hiding Amanda Righetti's pregnancy? On the contrary. I'm getting a kick out of how obvious it is. She's really gained a lot of weight and it shows all over - I would think the makeup people could do a better job with her face, considering how it's possible to create contours pretty easily. They could at least slim down her jawline. They can't do anything with the overall change in her shoulders and breasts, though, and what you can see behind those obstructions has been so obviously huge compared to her normal shape, I'm surprised they even tried it. In fact, I expected that with this episode she'd either be absent or no longer hiding, having had the baby by now.
No, no and no. CBS would be so stupid to cancell The Mentalist. It's the best show on TV.
I see all this ratings talk. I really wish they would take into consideration moving it to Sunday and the impact Football has had on it. As a faithful viewer, it was hard to start watching the show at 10:45 EST. I have a job that gets me up at 3:30am. Sunday nights are perfect for me the way they are, except for football. I know it wont stay that way, cause the powers that be, always ruin my tv viewing schedule and take off my favorites. I actually missed the last 10 minutes of this episode and was glad my question was answered in the review.
I think that is almost 11 million total viewers
and the 2.1/6 is the 18- 49 share
and that is against the premier of Downton Abby
10:00 CBS The Mentalist 2.1/6 10.73
last nights ratings
@debbiestan -- The website TV By the Numbers has been pushing the idea that CBS intends to cancel 1 out of The Mentalist, The Good Wife, or CSI:NY to make room for a new show -- and then settled on CSI:NY as the likely cancellation. Who knows if they're right? Since they're a ratings site, they push the idea of shows being on the bubble or being cancelled or not.
The ratings, for instance, of the week ending December 30, have Sunday Night football as the top rated show of the week ... and a rerun of The Mentalist, competing with it, was still 23rd most watched show of the week. BUT, the viewers advertisers want are the 18-34 and 18-49 group, and The Mentalist rerun didn't make the top 25 for the week in that group??
b,w&red all over it, some great comments. i can't say i agree that the idea of a relationship between patrick and teresa is new to either of them. jane said "love you" to lisbon in crimson hat. when she asked him about it, she was hopeful. she'd thought about it a lot and wanted confirmation. when he side-stepped it, (being coy, self-protective, protecting lisbon, whatever), she colluded with him to pretend nothing happened. she drew back because asking about it revealed too much. she couldn't bear to be out on that limb by herself. my opinion: lisbon should be in love with patrick. how could she not? her days revolve around him. he brings energy and fun to an otherwise drab, grim existence. his brilliance protects her. will she ever again be so significant to so extraordinary a man? patrick's a pain in the ass but teresa's life would suck without him. i'm not being sentimental; just logical.
continued^ prepared to have season 3's ending of Jane finding RJ in the mall as the ending for the series and how Jane meets RJ considering the show at the time didnt know if it was being renewed and needed a built in ending in case. While that was my favorite episode of the series, everything about the RJ-Jane plot and how Jane found him was developed in that episode alone and with some brief Todd Johnson probing and realization by Jane during the season. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't exactly super complex or deep.
Its 50-50 whether or not it comes back, but the way ratings have declined(the last episode before winter break was the lowest of the series) and with the way the contract is set up with Warner Bros, we should prepare for the worst. Logically, I have a hard time seeing how they drag this Red John subplot out another year especially how they promised there'd be huge breaks in the case which they wouldn't do if they felt this show had healthy hope for longevity.
This whole Lisbon-Jane relationship drama misses the pt that there only starting to feel something now(basically the best sign we saw of it starting was in the finale when lisbon asked him about "that thing he said about him saying love you"). Its still got a ways to go before it becomes what people want if it does at all.
And considering how Bruno has already warned us that the ending will likely dissapoint many, I think it's fair to say its not going to be something groundbreaking at all. After all, this show was prepared to
hi debbiestan. the idea of cancellation has been tossed around on this site and a couple of others. cbs has sent the series to the old elephant's graveyard on sunday night. bastards. they run almost no promos for the show. if i see one more hawaii 5-0 or good wife spot, i'll kill myself. les moonves (head son of a bitch at cbs) should be treating simon better. he made them a lot of money. my deepest hope is for another season. the airwaves would be much diminished without the mentalist. we'll find out in march.
regarding patrick's "you deserve happiness" speech to lisbon. there is nothing worse than when someone you view, even subconsciously, as a potential romantic partner blithely tells you he hopes you're in love with someone else. if i were lisbon, i would have thrown up right there and then. i know that jane is keeping distance between them, but that was ghastly. instead of urging her on to other options, it's exactly the kind of thing that could put her suddenly in touch with buried feelings toward him. gaaaahhh.
Is this the last season I'm confused not heard this anywhere.
@grady. agree with your how-to end-the series thoughts. i hoped the red john solution would be some new and mind-blowing version of evil. i wasn't interested in speculating about who he was and was disappointed when he turned out be someone we already know. now we're just waiting for a character who seemed innocuous to show up holding a flashlight under his chin, i guess. pray we get another season.
this was another lightweight ep but with more opportunities for jane to horse around. glad lisbon is pulling jane into the volker case. can't help but feel that if jane had been involved, volker's assistant wouldn't be dead. he would have known, like every viewer did, that she was a goner and had to be protected immediately. volker is one insecure titan to show up at lisbon's office to leer or call her to crow. weak move. he's already scared. wait'll he gets a load of jane.
I never thought that the Red John case was as deep as others believed. I don't think he apppeared in the fleash in previous seasons and we missed it. I don't think there are clues everywhere to who he is. To me this is a simple story about a man and his revenge to bring down the killer of his family. Nothing more, nothing less. I think that it will be a big let down when Red John is caught. I think it will be great story telling and episode, but I believe that all of those who have been looking for clues along the way, will stratch their head and go...huh....that is it? Anyway, I wished that the show didn't sometimes come off as the keystone cops who can't do anything without Jane. However, next weeks show looks good. Just wish Lisbon could have brought down Volker herself.
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