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hello anitraward1. agree jane and lisbon should not get together until the very end. it would be great if they killed red john and then without a word, went to her place and ripped each other's clothes. so primal. so lizard brain. then they'd have to sort it all out the next morning. the team would freak out. "oh no, mommy and daddy are doing it!"
shudder. i feel like even talking about the end is tempting the evil eye.
so glad you don't like kristina. i so didn't buy that patrick would give a rat's ass about her. so completely contrived by the writers and so unmerited by the character. she deliberately traumatized him with her "your wife and i are buddies" act, then tried to capitalize on their relationship by going on the air to show play the superior psychic, the empathic one who turned red john into a lamb eating from her hand. hope she stays catatonic.

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NOW, I HAVE TO GO GET MORE M&M'S AND POPCORN!

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Continued-Huisclothes, you are so right about the Jane/Lisbon relationship. What they have been through does mean alot. I can totally see them together now. But, not until the very end! Lisbon would get into a lot of trouble dating a subordinate. In the Crimson Hat why did Jane hold Lisbon's had the way that he did? Did he answer the question she asked him in the warehouse. Jane did say in another episode while he was talking to someone, how could you help not loving someone like Lisbon. Libon was alright with Jane until he kissed Lorelei. That's when she said I'm not your girlfriend. The kiss pissed her off. She could have said I'm not one of your cons.

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Huiscolthes, When Jane asked Lisbon if was she in love, he was being a busy body and nosey. He was guessing at why she had the gleam in her eye and she was being quite dismissive to him. Jane's second guess was the Volker case. If everybody deserves love that would include him. Now he knows he still has a chance with her. All the encounters with others won't mean anything to either one of them if they get together in the end. You are so right about K. Frye, she really trashed Jane. I think when Jane cried that was the first time he really grieved his family. But don't you think it's interesting that the same thing she used to rip Jane open with is the same thing Red John took from her. It's poetic justice! K. Frye was a jerk! Especially when Jane told her that she dressed up nicely and she replied you look the same! Yuck!

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Rationalgal,Jane does not have a lot of women to choose from. The only women he is around are the criminals he catches and women who are connected or have become connected with the CBI. What interesting is that he manages to stay on top of the criminal gene pool when it comes to his encounters with these women. Jane does show that he likes very intelligent, beautiful women. He seems to be sucked in by them but not enough to make a commitment to any of them. I think he has put his relationships on the back burner until he gets Red John. He is a man and these very intelligent man eating women know how to get around him sometimes but not for long. He is needy and gets tempted or involved from time to time. He did say he wanted a woman that would accept all of him. He reminds me of the song the Darkside by Kelly Clarkson.

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TB and anitraward1. no i don't think lisbon would be a romantic possibility for patrick if he hadn't fallen into her arms like a wounded bird. patrick could have anyone. she's never gonna have another shot at someone as special as he is. she has to realize it. she's decent, kind and pretty and he feels safe with her, trusts her. don't forget she gave him back his self-respect when she recruited him to use his psychic tricks to catch criminals. and she's lived with him through the long hellish pursuit of red john. that counts for a lot.

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Continued: Lisbon sees Jane as a distraught child in need of protection - related to her protective behavior toward her "near feral" brothers in dealing with her abusive drunken father. So we see where both of them are coming from, which explains the lack of sexual attraction between two of the best looking people on Earth. No doubt that will change as the RJ situation resolves itself. In the Paley Center cast interview video I have, Simon Baker was rejecting the notion of Jane and Lisbon getting together because that would mean the end of the show. The discussion wound up with Bruno Heller saying quietly that they would get together "at the end of season 5." The video was made at the end of season 1, so thing could have changed.

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I love the Patrick Jane character for its 3D complexity! He is a flawed man with some innate opposition to exploiting vulnerable people. Otherwise he cleraly loved his traveling carnival life. It's the only family he has known, so he relates to anything that reminds him of it - even ethically compromised women - and is leary of rule followers. He has shown pure joy when exposed to that life again (jumping into the arms of that big guy in the ep with Jane's brother in law, and watching his old-time magician firend perform in the casino robbery ep). Jane is still a con artist. Despite the improvements his wife made on him, he still stuck with doing psychic ripoffs. I notice that Jane's grief seems mostly related to the death of his daughter - hardly any to his wife. He is intensely protective of young girls, not so much young women. He seems to see Lisbon as a mother figure (he apparently never knew his own mother) and perhaps saw his wife that way too. Lisbon sees Jane as a distraught child in need of protection - related to her protective behavior toward her "near feral" brothers in dealing with her abusive drunken father. So we see where both of them are coming from, which explains the lack of sexual attraction between two of the best looking people on Earth. No doubt that will change as the RJ situation resolves itself. In the Paley Center cast interview video I have, Simon Baker was rejecting the notion of Jane and Lisbon getting together because that would mean the end of the show. The discussion wound up with Bruno Heller saying quietly that they would get together "at the end of season 5." The video was made at the end of season 1, so thing could have changed.

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Entwife, I think Lisbon didn't respond to Jane because she was very preoccupied and focused with the Volker case. She really didn't care what he was saying, she was on a mission and wanted to do it her way. Jane does the same thing to Lisbon when he is persuing Red John or on Red John leads.He shuts her out and she did the same thing to him. You are right about the shoes, the first thing I though was why are they showing his big ugly shoes like that. I know there are the connotations about what big feet mean but what's the point in that, he's not in a relationship. If that was the reason and they don't go anywhere with, it would be more self serving then anything else. Ok, so, Jane has some big junk, now what?

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Wow!I ate my popcorn and m&m's while reading all your comments! TB, I thought your comment about whether Jane would be interested in Lisbon if she was not in charge of the Red John files was very astute. That is a question I would like to have the answer as well. If Red John had not killed Jane's family he would not have ever met Lisbon. Jane has a carney background and they hate and don't trust the police. Maybe because Jane worked with the police he found that idea not to be true. Who knows?




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