The Mentalist Review: Unforgivable Things Comments (Page 9)
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anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:54 PM
I've been with my husband 30 yrs. and the only time I ever got ruffled up was when I was in love with him! The other guys I was with didn't mean shit! I was not not serious about them. I did some silly shit because of being in love and I can honestly say I was only really in love once. I married the guy. There is more to Jane and Lisbon then is meeting the eye!
estatica Rank: Guest Star
March 16th, 2013 5:54 PM
@bonaduz Here in Portugal, the episodes have subtitles, so we never hear a dubbed version (thank God!). The translation used here, I think, is the most correct one: they call each other Jane and Lisbon, but all the while being familiar and using the "tu" with each other and the team. They use the formal language with suspects and superiors, such as Bertram and judges, etc.
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:50 PM
lol ani you make me laugh!
no Jane doesn't but that's the whole point of the discussion. The non shippers don't believe they love each others and the shippers do, namely HC, bonaduz, entwife, KM, me we all want to see it so we see feelings where we can but that's our interpretation, there are those who will tell you the opposite.
some will say Jane doesnt show his feelings because he wants to protect Lisbon and others will say he just doesn't love her that way so what is there to see?
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:49 PM
Really! Cause they were never with me! I never had one!
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:47 PM
My next point is Jane doesn't either.
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:45 PM
yes but that's not the problem here, it's not a matter of knowing how to show her feelings but a matter of when and to whom. we can be open with some people and not with others. One night stands are easy.
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:42 PM
My point was that Lisbon does not have a problem showing her feelings for someone.
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:37 PM
yes but Mashburn DID show her HIS feelings so she didn't have anything to risk! I rarily tell a guy how I feel unless I believe he feels the same. Also MAshburn was not his colleague and it was just a one night stand, fun.. not comparable.
huisclothes Rank: Regular Character
March 16th, 2013 5:37 PM
@entwife re: patrick being stumped. it's a tough one. i keep thinking about what he could have said that wouldn't be unfair and maybe make it worse. couldn't reassure her that things would be ok. couldn't say, i care. or you're the last person in the world i'd want to hurt. couldn't say, you'd better cross me off your list as someone to care about. couldn't say, after this is behind us, we'll talk. they couldn't have the trust fall discussion. he doesn't think he'll be there for her. sorry is all you can say. and i have no excuse. and if i have to pull something like this again, you know i will. and if that's too much for you, i get it.
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:35 PM
Lisbon didn't have any proplems showing Mashburn just how she felt! Nope! No problems there that I could see! Couldn't see.....any thing....nope! She seemed pretty clear about how she felt! Looked like she had a good time too! Hmmmmmmm?
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:31 PM
well ani it always boils down to one thing: it's so personal it depends on so many factors that we can't tell and I don't think you need to be crazy to do that. we all have our desires, our limits and our background. I guess that's why people judge and criticize each other.
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:30 PM
THANK YOU HUISCLOTHES.
Entwife
March 16th, 2013 5:28 PM
@bonaduz That's a good idea, I hope we do get some information about Jane's family from Sean!
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:28 PM
well that was silly-obviously in real life
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:28 PM
UNLESS YOU WERE FRICKIN' CRAZY!
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:26 PM
ani this is a tough question, I have no idea because I'm not in the case, because I don't have a career (in my real life) because I hardly ever experienced real love, well never to be honest so I don't know.
huisclothes Rank: Regular Character
March 16th, 2013 5:25 PM
@ani will take a look at black gold tonight.
huisclothes Rank: Regular Character
March 16th, 2013 5:21 PM
@ani re: teresa wearing her heart on her sleeve. i think teresa is more emotional than patrick. she shows anger and glares at people and coos at babies, and barks commands. you really know where you stand with her. that is, until lately when she's become better at poker. she is deeply attached to patrick. she can't control her emotions of anger, love, concern, disappointment. cops become very attached to their partners. a typical conceit of cop shows. teresa has no outlet for any personal emotion she might feel except for putting it in "we're partners" terms. cho and risby are partners and they have lied for each other and saved each other. teresa is in the weird position of having a non-professional partner with no boundaries and an agenda of his own. she can't have a professional relationship with him because he isn't a professional. and she's worked for ten years on a case that personal for him. not professional.
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:21 PM
mimi, would you give up your career for some guy you having been pining over for ten years who hasn't shown you any type of reciprocation?
Entwife
March 16th, 2013 5:18 PM
@anitraward1 I think the angst of a growing love that cannot be expressed could easily produce the emotional storm that Lisbon is experiencing right now. I tend to agree with @huisclothes that Patrick was stunned to see that naked emotion in Lisbon on Orchid Lane. I'm not sure if he was stunned that she was that close to breaking down or if he was stunned to realize that it was her love for him that was behind it. Patrick rarely gets stumped about what's going on with people, especially those he knows well and sees everyday, so I tend to think he was stunned to see that she was so close to losing emotional control and just might blurt it all out. That may have been why he was so quiet and just took it and waited for her. To say anything to her probably would have put her over the edge, and he would probably know that.
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:15 PM
Huisclothes go back and look again, Jane has a hand cuff key. You can see it and there is no mistaking it. So again, where did he get it?
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:14 PM
residual?it hasnet even started yet!!
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:13 PM
HC erm it's the "r" that is not the same otherwise it's a short "a" and "i"
anitraward1
March 16th, 2013 5:12 PM
The question is were those two hidding in plain sight and then broke it off like Van Pelt and Rigsby? Cause it sure seems like Jane and Lisbon have some residual effect stuff going on!
mimi
March 16th, 2013 5:11 PM
well Ani I agree with you to some extent but ok let's not forget it's fiction. She's the boss but is human too, it's no wonder she fell for Jane and can't show her feelings, I mean in theshow theyve been working together for?? how long again? 7 years? it's only now she's showing her feelings, I guess it dawned on her she loves him, it didn't come so suddenly I believe.
March 16th, 2013 5:54 PM
I've been with my husband 30 yrs. and the only time I ever got ruffled up was when I was in love with him! The other guys I was with didn't mean shit! I was not not serious about them. I did some silly shit because of being in love and I can honestly say I was only really in love once. I married the guy. There is more to Jane and Lisbon then is meeting the eye!
Rank: Guest Star
March 16th, 2013 5:54 PM
@bonaduz Here in Portugal, the episodes have subtitles, so we never hear a dubbed version (thank God!). The translation used here, I think, is the most correct one: they call each other Jane and Lisbon, but all the while being familiar and using the "tu" with each other and the team. They use the formal language with suspects and superiors, such as Bertram and judges, etc.
March 16th, 2013 5:50 PM
lol ani you make me laugh!
no Jane doesn't but that's the whole point of the discussion. The non shippers don't believe they love each others and the shippers do, namely HC, bonaduz, entwife, KM, me we all want to see it so we see feelings where we can but that's our interpretation, there are those who will tell you the opposite.
some will say Jane doesnt show his feelings because he wants to protect Lisbon and others will say he just doesn't love her that way so what is there to see?
March 16th, 2013 5:49 PM
Really! Cause they were never with me! I never had one!
March 16th, 2013 5:47 PM
My next point is Jane doesn't either.
March 16th, 2013 5:45 PM
yes but that's not the problem here, it's not a matter of knowing how to show her feelings but a matter of when and to whom. we can be open with some people and not with others. One night stands are easy.
March 16th, 2013 5:42 PM
My point was that Lisbon does not have a problem showing her feelings for someone.
March 16th, 2013 5:37 PM
yes but Mashburn DID show her HIS feelings so she didn't have anything to risk! I rarily tell a guy how I feel unless I believe he feels the same. Also MAshburn was not his colleague and it was just a one night stand, fun.. not comparable.
Rank: Regular Character
March 16th, 2013 5:37 PM
@entwife re: patrick being stumped. it's a tough one. i keep thinking about what he could have said that wouldn't be unfair and maybe make it worse. couldn't reassure her that things would be ok. couldn't say, i care. or you're the last person in the world i'd want to hurt. couldn't say, you'd better cross me off your list as someone to care about. couldn't say, after this is behind us, we'll talk. they couldn't have the trust fall discussion. he doesn't think he'll be there for her. sorry is all you can say. and i have no excuse. and if i have to pull something like this again, you know i will. and if that's too much for you, i get it.
March 16th, 2013 5:35 PM
Lisbon didn't have any proplems showing Mashburn just how she felt! Nope! No problems there that I could see! Couldn't see.....any thing....nope! She seemed pretty clear about how she felt! Looked like she had a good time too! Hmmmmmmm?
March 16th, 2013 5:31 PM
well ani it always boils down to one thing: it's so personal it depends on so many factors that we can't tell and I don't think you need to be crazy to do that. we all have our desires, our limits and our background. I guess that's why people judge and criticize each other.
March 16th, 2013 5:30 PM
THANK YOU HUISCLOTHES.
March 16th, 2013 5:28 PM
@bonaduz That's a good idea, I hope we do get some information about Jane's family from Sean!
March 16th, 2013 5:28 PM
well that was silly-obviously in real life
March 16th, 2013 5:28 PM
UNLESS YOU WERE FRICKIN' CRAZY!
March 16th, 2013 5:26 PM
ani this is a tough question, I have no idea because I'm not in the case, because I don't have a career (in my real life) because I hardly ever experienced real love, well never to be honest so I don't know.
Rank: Regular Character
March 16th, 2013 5:25 PM
@ani will take a look at black gold tonight.
Rank: Regular Character
March 16th, 2013 5:21 PM
@ani re: teresa wearing her heart on her sleeve. i think teresa is more emotional than patrick. she shows anger and glares at people and coos at babies, and barks commands. you really know where you stand with her. that is, until lately when she's become better at poker. she is deeply attached to patrick. she can't control her emotions of anger, love, concern, disappointment. cops become very attached to their partners. a typical conceit of cop shows. teresa has no outlet for any personal emotion she might feel except for putting it in "we're partners" terms. cho and risby are partners and they have lied for each other and saved each other. teresa is in the weird position of having a non-professional partner with no boundaries and an agenda of his own. she can't have a professional relationship with him because he isn't a professional. and she's worked for ten years on a case that personal for him. not professional.
March 16th, 2013 5:21 PM
mimi, would you give up your career for some guy you having been pining over for ten years who hasn't shown you any type of reciprocation?
March 16th, 2013 5:18 PM
@anitraward1 I think the angst of a growing love that cannot be expressed could easily produce the emotional storm that Lisbon is experiencing right now. I tend to agree with @huisclothes that Patrick was stunned to see that naked emotion in Lisbon on Orchid Lane. I'm not sure if he was stunned that she was that close to breaking down or if he was stunned to realize that it was her love for him that was behind it. Patrick rarely gets stumped about what's going on with people, especially those he knows well and sees everyday, so I tend to think he was stunned to see that she was so close to losing emotional control and just might blurt it all out. That may have been why he was so quiet and just took it and waited for her. To say anything to her probably would have put her over the edge, and he would probably know that.
March 16th, 2013 5:15 PM
Huisclothes go back and look again, Jane has a hand cuff key. You can see it and there is no mistaking it. So again, where did he get it?
March 16th, 2013 5:14 PM
residual?it hasnet even started yet!!
March 16th, 2013 5:13 PM
HC erm it's the "r" that is not the same otherwise it's a short "a" and "i"
March 16th, 2013 5:12 PM
The question is were those two hidding in plain sight and then broke it off like Van Pelt and Rigsby? Cause it sure seems like Jane and Lisbon have some residual effect stuff going on!
March 16th, 2013 5:11 PM
well Ani I agree with you to some extent but ok let's not forget it's fiction. She's the boss but is human too, it's no wonder she fell for Jane and can't show her feelings, I mean in theshow theyve been working together for?? how long again? 7 years? it's only now she's showing her feelings, I guess it dawned on her she loves him, it didn't come so suddenly I believe.