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Castle Round Table: "The Squab and the Quail"

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"The Squab and the Quail" featured Beckett shacking up with a rich, handsome, successful man... and it wasn't Rick Castle.

Our Castle Round Table team of Chandel Charles, Jim Garner, and Christine Orlando are joined below by Gloria from The 12th Fan Forum as they discuss sexy men and what they expect from Castle and Beckett as the Castle Season 5 winds to an end.

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What was your favorite scene from the episode?

Gloria: The scene with Castle, Espo and Ryan at the precinct, after Beckett has been told she has to follow Vaughn around. Castle says he can't believe that the department is forcing her to hang out with a womanizing, rich, guy against her will. The witty sarcasm that Ryan and Espo pull off make these two characters such a great duo.

Chandel: Probably Castle freaking out about the fact that Eric and Kate had been standing so near to each other. It took him a minute, but he eventually figured out what had happened. The panic, though, was priceless.

Jim: I enjoyed Castle "taking point" on the investigation with Javi and Ryan. It seems like he should be on the payroll by now.

Christine: Esposito telling Castle "unlike you, his helicopter doesn't need a remote control" and Ryan admitting, "hell no, I wouldn't let Jenny near that guy" was great. Nothing better than the boys teasing a panicky Castle.

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Who is sexier: Eric Vaughn, George Clooney or Richard Castle?

Gloria: I didn't find Vaughn all that attractive. Now Clooney, on the other hand, could give Castle a run for his money. Clooney has aged like a expensive bottle of wine. Castle might just inch ahead at the last second, though he better keep his video games in the closet!

Chandel: Probably Richard Castle. I think he's all-around sexy. I don't really "know" the other guys like I know Castle, haha!

Jim: I have to say Eric Vaughn (sorry, Rick). Watching Ioan Gruffudd use his real accent and play the caring tycoon/boss had me developing a little man-crush on him by the end.

Christine: No one can deny Clooney is handsome and I've been a fan of Ioan Gruffudd since he was on Ringer. Lanie's right, the accent is hot. But the way Castle goes from handsome and confident to goofy and lovable is hard to resist.

Funnier moment: Lanie with a British accent or Castle wondering how the NYPD could force Beckett to spend time with a womanizing rich guy?

Gloria: Though I loved Lanie's sexy British accent, Castle's failure to see that he had basically done the same thing to Beckett, was better. Oh the irony of it all! Especially when you throw in the boys comments and reactions.

Chandel: I have to say Lanie working that British accent. I don't feel like we see enough of her and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Jim: I'm going with Lanie using a British accent. She doesn't get to do much of the humor and that was funny. Though Rick's comment had me smirking, it's really been too long since she was "forced" to work with Castle for the joke to have any teeth.

Christine: I loved Castle being affronted by Kate being forced to spend time with a womanizing, rich guy. He deserved a head smack for even saying the words. How soon we forget!

When Kate asks Rick, "Where are we going?" is Castle really clueless or deflecting because he's not ready for that conversation?

Gloria: I honestly believe Castle is clueless. He knows how he feels, but I do not think he really understands how far Beckett has come. I think he just doesn't see that she is ready. He may be afraid to scare her off, so he is missing the obvious clues she is giving him.

Chandel: I don't think Rick ever faces things like that head on. I don't think he really understood that Kate was truly unhappy and wanted a serious answer, but I also don't think he would be ready for the conversation if it arose.

Jim:  His ex-wife pointed out that he deflects. Rick is smart and knows damn well what Kate was asking, he's just not sure how to answer yet.

Christine: He's not stupid, but he can be completely clueless at times. Either way, he spent four years winning the girl but I don't think he's really figured out where they go from here.

As the season winds down, it looks as though Castle and Beckett's relationship will come to a head in the season finale (on May 13th). Speculate on what you think that will mean for our dynamic duo?

Gloria: Beckett waited until she knew that Castle was it for her.  She is ready for their future.  Castle is lagging far behind because of his insecurities about spooking her, and her running from this relationship.  I believe she is far more confidant in this relationship than he is.  It will come to a head somehow, where I think a choice has to be made about how they will progress.

Chandel: If there's anything we know, it's that their relationship always seems to hit a turning point during season finales. I assume it might see a temporary breakup for the pair or at the very least a serious conversation about their relationship's trajectory.

Jim: I'm a romantic at heart, so I'm going with marriage proposal! I know it's a long shot, but I feel good about it.

Christine: I think for four seasons it was Kate holding them back and now the tables have turned. I think she's ready to move forward but Castle's two failed marriages have him spooked. I think when she pushes for answers he's going to freeze. It won't be pretty but I hope they work through it before the season ends because the summer hiatus will be intolerable if they're apart.

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I feel that when Beckett said to Eric Vaughn that she and Castle didn't talked about the seriousness of their relationship because "Its complicated". She said that because "the complications" are coming from both Castle/Beckett, Castle because his own insecurities and Beckett still having problems with her mother's murder, so both have "baggage" that they need to clear up. In season 4 episode "47 seconds" Castle was upset after realizing that Beckett remembered (after she lied) his words "I Love you Kate" He said to Martha that he was disappointed because "he thought that he and Beckett could have had a future together" so Castle did gave some thoughts to their future. In a separate comment: How eerie are the similarities of the Boston Bombings and the episode "47 seconds"?

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But, that was part of the fun watching the show, at least for me; probably don’t make 100 episodes keeping it real. With that said, I can see the Mr. Marlowe & Co. breaking them up, then starting Season 6 with them still partnering, but fighting the urge to reconcile…because they KNOW they’re good together this time. I don’t think I could watch a season of that, but a few episodes rooting for them to get back together might work. Soap operas do it all the time.

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Season finale: One of the great things about television entertainment is that it’s supposed to be a departure from reality. In the real world, the romantic part of “Castle� would have begun, at the earliest, during the final scene in Season 2. You just gonna let a man who you KNOW wants to be with you head off to the Hamptons…without even trying? Yeah, right. Then, the man tells you that he loves you, and your instinct is to lie to him for a year that you didn’t hear him…all the while hoping he sticks around? Yeah, double-right. But, that was part of the fun watching the show, at least for me; probably don’t make 100 episodes keeping it real. With that said, I can see the Mr. Marlowe & Co. breaking them up, then starting Season 6 with them still partnering, but fighting the urge to reconcile…because they KNOW they’re good together this time. I don’t think I could watch a season of that, but a few episodes rooting for them to get back together might work. Soap operas do it all the time.

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"Where are we going?" I think all of you are wrong. It’s BECKETT who’s not ready for this conversation! Was she asking Castle this question…or was she asking herself the question? Perhaps Castle has been cavalier in his past relationships, but he knows what he has, and I believe he knows that Beckett stands above his ex-wives. He’s known since Season 3. Given how Beckett lied about his love confession, and how cautious she’s been since they’ve been together – and dictated the terms of their relationship to this point – it’s no wonder that Castle’s approaching their relationship with kid gloves. If I’m wrong, then yes, he’s clueless. But I don’t think I’m wrong.
Season finale: One of the great things about television entertainment is that it’s supposed to be a departure from reality. In the real world, the romantic part of “Castle� would have begun, at the earliest, during the final scene in Season 2. You just gonna let a man who you KNOW wants to be with you head off to the Hamptons…without even trying? Yeah, right. Then, the man tells you that he loves you, and your instinct is to lie to him for a year that you didn’t hear him…all the while hoping he sticks around? Yeah, double-right.
But, that was part of the fun watching the show, at least for me; probably don’t make 100 episodes keeping it real. With that said, I can see the Mr. Marlowe & Co. breaking them up, then starting Season 6 with them still partnering, but fighting the urge to reconcile…because they KNOW they’re good together this time. I don’t think I could watch a season of that, but a few episodes rooting for them to get back together might work. Soap operas do it all the time.

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Favorite scene: Castle figuring out that Kate pushed Vaughn away after he kissed her.
Vaughn, Clooney or Castle: Well, as comfortable in my manhood as I am, I deferred this question to my wife. Although she claims that I’M the sexiest (I’m Castle to her Beckett!), given her choices she picks Clooney.
Funnier moment, Lanie or Castle: Castle. The line is funny, the boys’ reaction is funnier, but it’s hilarious that he missed the irony of his statement!

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I disagree that Beckett is handling the relationship better than Castle, far from it, but it would be too long to make the point. I will give one example. Kelly, you're dead wrong, Beckett was not honest about the kiss. Watch that scene again. She's giving her statement to Ryan and lies about where Vaughn was standing making him close, but not as close as he really was. Then Castle points out that Vaughn's head would be right in the line of fire, and she says he stumbled, twice. It's only when Castle points out her lie makes no sense that she fesses up and then has the gall to say I won't lie to you. So he catches her lying about kissing another man but she's trying to guilt him, yep she's a girl. And the kiss didn't mean anything? Look at her, leaning in, eyes partially closed, lips parted. Yeah she eventually stops him, but there was a too long hestiation. Yep, nothing to see here, move along. Now, are those the actions of a woman truly committed to her relationship? No.

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Whoa, Whoa, they've only been dating 6-9 months!!
Way too much, too fast..
Ryans exit stage left.. was brilliant..
Is he clueless?? No.
That's more like an 18 month into it question (where are we going?)
Bad timing for her to ask that question anyway. You have a room full of candles, kissing your very sexy GF, erotic massage on your mind and trust me, "where are we going?" is only going to be taken one way..
Bedroom..aka Sex ..

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By season end I believe Beckett is going to have a job proposal somewhere else. I think an agent of the FBI is going to offer her a job, forcing her to re-evalute her future with Castle. I agree that Castle is deflecting but I also think that part of his insecurities are base in the fact that Beckett has never told him those 3 little words.
This episode was in a way a wake up call for Castle, he needs to start paying more attention, he is losing Beckett little by little, he needs to let know Beckett that is committed. Relationship talks are tough but if they don't have it soon I think Kate would really take that job offer (which by the way would destroy my shipper heart).

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Part of me thinks they will either injure Rick or make them take a break. Only because Rick knows what it feels like to lose Kate, she doesn't. I think Rick needs to let Kate know what happened with his marriages. Yes, he's a player but not when he's committed. He wasn't the cheater in his marriages. (At least it's never been mentioned) Also, Kate needs to let Rick know that she doesn't have one foot out the door like he's seen with all of her recent relationships. They both have baggage. They need to open it, dump it out, and then pack one bag together. If it takes an injury or a break up to get them out of the honeymoon and into a committed relationship then so be it. The writers have made them the perfect compliment for each other and if they don't stay true to that then the show can't survive. I just hope Rick doesn't propose because its way to early for that. It would however be interesting if Kate got pregnant. That would definitely make them both think about their relationship.

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When Castle got to the hotel and Kate tells him she's fine without his having to ask and the look on his face when he realized she pushed Vaughn away.
As much as I love Castle, he was an oblivious jerk in this episode and I'm a real sucker for a British accent, for this episode only it would be Eric Vaughn.
Definitely Lanie with the accent! Loved her little dance to go with it too. :)
I really think he was clueless. Her timing of the question was terrible! Although, if her timing had been better I think he would have deflected. He knows how he feels and what it feels like to lose her so he doesn't want to go to fast. I think Kate needs to take the first step to making it more serious, as well as force Castle to NOT deflect. He will open up for her. Especially now that he's met his father and I'm sure he told her about that.
As for the finale, I'm hoping for them to finally have a real talk about their relationship. As good as the honeymoon is, it needs to end. Part of me thinks they will either injure Castle (awful thought, I know) or break them up (just as bad). But Beckett doesn't know what it would feel like to lose him. It seems like she's more or less treating this like every other relationship. Yes Castle is a player, but not when he's in a relationship. He's not the one who cheated in his marriages, and he needs to tell her that. But Beckett needs to show him that she doesn't have one foot out the door like with every other guy he's seen her with. They both have baggage. They need to open it, dump it out, and pack up one bag together. If it takes a break up or an injury than so be it. The writers have made them a perfect match for each other and if they don't stay true to that then the show can't survive. I just hope Castle doesn't propose, it's way to early for that.

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