@Rachel - I never said it was necessary to show torture, just that there was a reason for it and that it was important to the story and to the relationships between the characters going forward. Unfortunately, torture exists all over the world. It happens every day; it is happening as you read this to someone, somewhere. If you want to hide from that fact you can, but it doesn't change the fact that it is happening right now. Maybe instead of being disgusted over fictionalized torture (and, in your opinion, the â€œdesensitizedâ€ people who enjoyed the show in spite of it or even because of it), you should consider getting involved with a group that seeks to end real life torture.
@Devon, one thing I'm surprised about is that they didn't delve any further into Callen's history. Maybe that's because they've already dealt with his story quite a bit in the first 3 seasons. However, end of season 4 and he still doesn't know what the G stands for and neither does the audience.
@Rachelh. Yeah, I didn't mind it when they decided to kill off Dom. The show was still new so it didn't really matter. With Deeks, he's a favorite so it's unsettling that he would be the one in trouble. Although I think because next season is supposed to dive into the story of Deeks, maybe that's why the writers decided to leave him as the last thing we heard. And like you, I'm totally ready for Season 5. Four long months. I hope they add more depth to the characters and stories next season.
Dom's death was different because he wasn't on the show that long and he isn't as big of a character as Deeks is. I'm not saying that it wasn't sad, but it wouldn't be as sad as Deeks being killed. Furthermore, they didn't really show Dom being tortured. I still totally disagree with the torture scenes and with the people saying that it is necessary. Total non sense.
Well, sorry to break this illusion that you have, but anyone who can sit through any kind of torture scene without it having an affect on them is desensitized to a certain extent. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Living in the age we are living in, a lot of people are desensitized to it because writers of certain shows are very subtle about it. It may not be obvious, but it's there.
O.k. ready for season 5 already just because I'm ready for something new. It does get a little old watching the same episodes over and over. I still have Season 4 coming in August. Yeah, I guess that's how long it takes for Amazon to be ready to send it to people.
Actually, I want to rephrase. It's the reactions of the characters/actors that made the scene disturbing. The whole approach of that scene...camera, editing, lighting, sound, acting, etc. made my jaw drop. And watching the episode again, it truly was an amazing cliffhanger that sets up beautifully for season 5. It changes the game for these characters and I am in firm belief that these actors and writers will bring it come September.
I agree. The torture here compared to 24 shouldn't be compared at all. 24 was notorious for it's torture scenes..over 60 in the first five seasons. It was by far the worst offender and most graphic. The PTC talked about it. So did the media and bloggers. The New York Times wrote an article trying to normalize it. Stephen King talked about 24's torture scenes. The FBI and military met with 24 producers to criticize the depiction of torture and their effectiveness. NCIS:LA isn't in the same ballpark as 24. It's just the reactions of the characters/actors that made the scene disgusting. It does make a difference watching it again without sound. And I'd like to bring up the Alias reference too. The very first scenes in the pilot was Sydney having her teeth pulled out and screaming. A few seasons later, Bradley Cooper's character underwent the same. Agents were strapped and injected. I think the real problem, maybe, is how common these scenes are in crime shows.
@Deb, I agree. and WOW,, good to know that there are passionate fans of NCIS LA on this site : ) It's a lazy Sunday pm and came back to check on this site....gotta agree with everyone who's watched the episode more than once. I too, re-watched it a week later and came back on this site to say that it really was an awesome episode! The torture scenes were fleeting and not that graphic. It truly was the acting, the sound effects, the filming, the pace that led our imagination to fill in the spaces. As I've said, the imagination has no limitation..my head filled in the spaces and so well that my mind literally went blank when the episode aired. I recommend watching it a second time if you've only watched it once. The kiss the second time around was even better ; )
I went back through the comments and realized that it was Tanner not Kevin that brought up the Alias dental torture connection. Thanks Tanner. I watched the show, but didn't remember it till I read your comment and my daughter confirmed it.
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