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Stiles has been an empire building churchy con artist. He would not spend his spare time randomly killing people for no reason. From Jane on (and possibly including Jane's family) the killings were no longer random, but specific to make a point. So I have a really hard time seeing how Stiles could have done the pre-Jane low-level random killings. It would be a pointless waste of time. Stiles does not do pointless waste of time things. But he probably knows who did. I say probably because Stiles told Jane "If I knew who Red John was I'd tell you." He could be lying. Or the kind of lie called mental reservaion, meaning "If I knew who Red John was in his current undercover persona I'd tell you." Now if we could find some trigger in Stiles' background that would cause him to serial kill as an emotional release, that would change the picture. Haffner looks/acts like he could have such a background.

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I think tyger tyger organization is something volkner was talking about to Lisbon on the door steps last season. Red John and his team are a competing/rival organization working for control and power? Kirkland was a top character and the actor was good too, they should have kept even at least in prison. Soon after he injected Lennon with poison, I came here saying he too was after Red John, because he's relative was killed as well like Jane.

Who else thought he could have easily taken Smith on even in cuffs? But how comes they changed him out of his suite into prison clothes so quickly?

Anitraward1

Ok, you guys, wish me luck, I'm going into a haunted corn field!

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Yep, Bret Stiles is capable of murder and is a savvy mental manipulator, all of that. But murder as a means to an end or to remove an obstacle is a far cry from the ritual slash-and-paint of Red John as he was for the first several seasons. If Red John is one man, the profile of that serial killer and the profile of Bret Stiles do not mesh. A serial killer like "Red John" is not an egomaniac control-freak King in the world's view, he's an underground guy. So I think Stiles is a benefactor or enabler or SOMETHING like that to Red John the Serial Killer, and heavily involved. But, unless he really IS Red John, I do think Stiles stands a very good chance of being killed off in the next episode or two. That's what they've done to the other most likely suspects. Either way we'll learn a great deal about the truth of him, I think. If he is killed, it will be by Red John for real, not Tyger Tyger. I don't think Tyger could actually get to Stiles.

Anitraward1

It sounds like something a pimp would say. Lorelei got pimped, she slept with Red John and he made her sleep with Jane. IT'S A FORM OF LOVE YOU KNOW! AH.......YEAH, I KNOW! I'd like to show you a form of love too!

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Correction- IT'S A FORM OF LOVE YOU KNOW.

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Red John seems to want to take everything from you. IT'S A FROM OF LOVE YOU KNOW. Well, first off, to believe something like that is demented in the first place. How does an enlightened guru believe some crap like this? Stiles should have finished the statement by saying punishment is a form of love. That's what he really meant. Stiles also told Jane he could scrub the stain of what happened to him right out of him. He didn't say sorry for you loss, nothing. He just rubbed Jane's nose in it. This is very mean for a person who is the head of a church to say to someone. But it is the right thing for the leader of a cult to say. Stiles is really showing he teeth by making such statements. It shows a very dark side to him.

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If you noticed Bret Stiles always brings up the death of Jane's family. Why? Lisbon said Stiles upsets Jane and Cho said he wished he knew how to do that. Stiles even asked Jane about the demons chasing him. Jane said I'm chasing them and Stiles replied, are you sure about that? Then he smiled and got onto the elevator. Stiles seems to be teasing Jane up front and demonizing from behind. He most certainly has his bases covered.

Anitraward1

@Dr Doctor, we are on the same PAGE!

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If Red John is as egotistical, maniacal, controlling and jealous as believed to be. He would have never allowed Stiles to interfere with K. Frye and Lorelei without retribution. There is no way Red John would have allowed this to happen. Someone else playing in his territory. It's the ultimate game being played. Behind the scenes Stiles takes the women and up front he gives them back appearing to be a friend. This is some very sinister business and a double con.




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