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Arrow Spoilers: Olicity Moments, Flash Crossovers to Come!

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As David Ramsey and Stephen Amell told TV Fanatic recently about Arrow Season 2 Episode 16, this Wednesday's “Suicide Squad” episode reveals a lot more about Ramsey’s character, including his relationship with ex Lila.

TV Fanatic was also one of the few outlets invited to an early screening of this week's installment, which followed by a Q&A with Executive Producer Marc Guggenheim.

Here are highlights for this Wednesday's outing, along with some other Arrow Season 2 goodies...

The Suicide Squad with Diggle and Lyla
Amanda Waller's Suicide Squad with special guests John Diggle and Lyla.

More Suicide Squad?: The group of criminals that are assembled in this week’s episode – along with a reluctant Diggle and Lila– has been a wish for the writers for awhile.

“The year started, as year one did, with DC [Comics] providing us with a list of characters who were available and who they would like to see on the show," Guggenheim said.

Bronze Tiger was one character that they wanted to “Arrow-ify” and he was brought in Arrow Season 2 Episode 2. Then Amanda Waller came in later on, as did Shrapnel; and with Deadshot last year, the Squad organically assembled.

The writers also wanted to get a Diggle/Lila backstory episode in and Guggenheim said they “slowly put the pieces on the board and slowly realized that it was possibe... I’m really happy we were able to do it this year.”

The producer confirmed that we have not seen the last of the Suicide Squad.

A Crowded Foundry: While it’s been a concern of some that too many now know about the secret lair where Ollie and company make their plans to catch the bad guys as well as train, don’t be surprised if that number grows even futher:

“I would say it’s going to go up before the end of the year,” Guggenheim revealed. “By the finale, more people will know than currently do.”

The producer said it’s not a bad thing as it draws people into Oliver’s world: “We tend to get more story out of people knowing than people not knowing.

Is Slade just bonkers?: Slade is definitely fueled by revenge - but is he insane? “He’s clearly not in his right mind,” Guggenheim said. “Episode 18 is called ‘Deathstroke’ in large part because we really get a much greater sense of Slade’s agenda, where he’s coming from but also what’s going on in his head."

He also said Episode 18 wraps up one part of the Arrow story and then episode 19 begins what will take us through to the season 2 finale.

Lance Finding Out About Ollie? So far, Lance hasn’t put two and two together, even though he spends a lot of time with both Oliver and Arrow. Will that last?

“I will say episode 19 pretty definitely answers that question as far as Lance is considered and the answer to that will surprise you," the producer teased. "It is not something that you would expect.”

Episode 19 and…The Flash? In the same episode - co-written by Geoff Johns, Andrew Kreisberg and Greg Berlanti (the team also behind The Flash pilot) - we’ll get meet characters from The Flash when Danielle Panabaker (Caitlin) and Carlos Valdes (Cisco) make an “important appearance."

Their scenes were shot for Arrow at the same time that The Flash pilot was filming.

Thea And Her Baby Daddy: We know Malcolm Merlyn is Thea’s father, as do Moira and Ollie. But will Thea ever find out?

Guggenheim revealed that it’s coming very soon.

“As always, things always happen sooner rather than later on Arrow. I will say that Thea learns something pretty massive in episode 18 and it will cause a tectonic shift in her relationship with Oliver.”

Guggenheim said that will play a big role through the finale.

Any Hope For Olicity?: Since Ollie hooked up with Sara, does that mean we should stop holding out hope that Olicity could still happen?

“It keeps popping up,” Guggenheim said. “You haven’t seen the last of ‘Olicity’ moments, as people call them, for sure. But, at the same time, we don’t try to cram them in…we always try very hard to let the episode dictate to us what it wants to be.” (Guggenheim did not reveal whether Felicity would appear in the The Flash pilot.)

Bye  Bye Island?: Don’t even think about it! Staying true to his words that the island will always be involved with the series until the very end, Guggenheim said the writers already have big plans for the island in season 3.

“We know exactly what we’re going to do,” he said. “I think we have more clarity on what’s going to happen in the flashbacks for Season 3 than we did at the beginning of Season 2 for Season 2, if that makes any sense."

Arrow airs Wednesdays at 8 pm on The CW.

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You are all missing the major story arc with Felicity that has been brewing since the end of season 1. There have been very subtle hints (some not so subtle) about a connection that Felicity has with a certain character, whether she knows it yet or not. Comic fans should see this coming, but for everyone else, its gonna blow your minds. But at the same
time, you won't understand how you missed it. I'm
not gonna ruin it for you, but I will give you a hint, "Roses are red....".....good luck and enjoy

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Well as far as I think. Oliver stayed 5 years in the island and in the pilot Oliver had longer hair in that 5th year and he was all alone. We have to find out what happened between him and Slade at the freighter ship as the one who escaped was Sara not Oliver. How did Slade escaped the island leaving Ollie alone as that is how we found out Oliver in teh pilot, alone in the island. Also I believe that each season is for each year in the island. So season 1 was Year 1 in teh island, Season 2 is Year 2, we have to see what happened in the island for the remaining 3 years Oliver was there. Cause also we have to find out how Oliver got so many scars on his body I bet other things happened in the island that still we do not know. Did he meet with someone else? Were other people in the island in the other years..

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I do enjoy Slade still being alive and in the story. It definitely was predictable, but not in a bad way. Just because it wasn't a surprise doesn't mean it wasn't interesting. I loved the way Oliver met him. Awkward! Flash crossovers sound really good & I can't wait to watch Flash! Also, I do think Lance should figure out the hood's identity. I'm surprised he hasn't already! Honestly. Anywho. Sincerely, avid TV watcher.

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I have to admit that I do like Sara and I enjoy her action scenes, but I am finding she is taking over the Arrow team dynamic, which I am not liking. I am also not keen on her relationship with Oliver. It is built on quite toxic foundations (I mean I am not the biggest Laurel fan, but I felt sorry for her in episode 14) and the loss of Shado (who I thought was great). Less Sara, more Diggle please. So looking forward to the Suicide Squad for that reason.

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@ Idris

I completely agree. I like Sara, but she is taking over the Arrow Team a bit too much, I hope it's just for the next few episodes...

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@ Idris

I get you on the toxic relationship. Oliver came back from the Ireland alone but did he leave Sara there? Or did they separate as well. Maybe Sara has some hidden agenda anyway. I believe she knew that when Ivo asked Oliver to choose between Shado and her that she was never in danger of being killed and that is why she wanted Oliver to kill Ivo so that he would not know that her relationship with Ivo was more that she had let on. I would prefer a friendship between Felicity and Sara to develop though rather than a bitchy antipathy over Oliver. That would just be boring.

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So much for Arrow being different then smallville

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@ Michael

Um... How is Arrow even remotely becoming similar to Smallville? Oliver is Green Arrow and has been for a long time now... it hasn't been 10 years of moody "I can't be a hero" and "destiny" crapped on by a poorly rendered cartoon/cgi costume from 1000 miles away in space.

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@ Kenny

Smallville had better female characters in general Lois,Chloe,Tess were all stronger characters than anyone from Arrow with the exception of Sara and maybe Moira at this stage

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I love the Canary action scenes, but I can't stand Sara. It's time for her to go back to Nyssa and pop in when Arrow needs back up. Get Sara off the screen ASAP.

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@ Lucy

Felicity is a 1 dimentional character at this stage Sara and Oliver have been fleshed out more than anyone at this stage

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@ Lucy

I feel the same way about Felicity and shipping her over to the flash at least Saras character brings action and story {League of assassins and the Deathstroke story are very Sara centric} what stories is Felicity bringing?

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@ Ackerlover

Felicity brings sunshine to Oliver. She makes him smile. She gets him to see a more productive way to right his father's wrong and to save Starling City. Felicity isn't part of his depressed and drama past. Oliver, Sara and even Laurel are emotionally dark. Sara is conditioned in the same fashion as Oliver. She's the female version of Oliver. Sara is a great action hero yet an unlikeable person. Seriously. Still hooking up with Oliver, hurting her sister whom she claims to love and look out for. Also, I'm suspicious of her. I don't trust her. I only like Sara when she's wearing the mask and fighting crime.

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@ Honey

You have no idea how much I am applauding you right now everything you have mentioned in the comment 100% True. :D Laurel+Sara+Oliver = All boring bad messy past nothing there anymore finish it before Slade sets it on fire. Oliver&Felicity = More freedom in the present and more sparks the with any other Female character on the show. :D Olicity for the win.

Claire2014

I am all for Olicity and the slow burn, just as long as the characters (*cough* Felicity) aren't sidelined in the process just to be brought to the forefront when needed for ratings. Character development for both Oliver and Felicity is a good thing. The past few episodes have been uneven, I hope they begin to smooth out and become balanced again. The only thing being 'crammed' down throats is NOT Olicity. LOL.

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@ Claire2014

The only people being sidelined are Diggle and Thea, Felicity has had nearly more screen time than anyone

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@ Ackerlover

I love Diggle and Felicity, but Diggle's getting a major episode this week. Much more Diggle-centric than that Clock King episode was Felicity-centric.
I also feel like the writers should give Felicity more character development, like they've done with Sara.

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oliver/felicity are a core part of the show, and not just as potential love interests. Their partnership and friendship is important in Oliver's character growth and development, so any moments between them aren't 'crammed in' they lend to the development of the main character of the show.

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@ hannah

Can you give me any examples on how Felicity has helped Oliver as a character?

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@ Ackerlover

Easily. Can we possibly go back to S1 when Oliver was going to Arrow the widower with the son, and Felicity refused to work for him? As a result, Oliver changed his actions to a warning. When he came back and couldn't kill without being the murderer Tommy said he was, Felicity told him he *could* help the city; he just had to find another way. And, in fact, he makes reference to the fact that her comment *did* make him change and think differently, not just as the Arrow, but as Oliver Queen, CEO. The better question is, can you give me examples of how Sara's influence on him has improved him at all? Apart from (possibly) the 'don't shove people away' moment (which frankly, is a big 'eh'), the fact is, she gives him bad advice and he takes it. If she hadn't insisted on lying to Slade, there wouldn't be a problem now. She's not a bad character, but she sure isn't a good influence on him (or vice versa.)

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Pfft, Olicity isn't going anywhere. Take a look at the ratings.
Slow burn baby, can't wait for Olicity.

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@ Trish

Olicity aint happening get use to it Felicity is still to immature for an adult relationship lol

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@ Ackerlover

Not sure I agree with Felicity being immature. Oliver certainly has his immature moments particularly as he has difficulty accepting other points of view/advice. How many times has Diggle been proved right. I admit that in the first season I only saw Felicity as being a friend to both Oliver and Diggle but the writers seem to have plugged a romantic buzz in the second season. Not sure why. However they do look good together. As it is Felicity is currently the only female that Oliver has not slept with and that will change. Question is what happens after that?

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@ rhoda

remind me? Which episode. Where I live we up to Episode 13 where Felicity in awe of Sara's strength (Salmon ladder scene). I like Oliver/Sara but their relationship kind of based on guilt and other stuff (eg Shado being shot instead of Sara). I would have preferred Oliver/Sara if the writers had not pushed the Oliver/Felicity buzz - even Diggle has drawn our attention to it.

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@ rhoda

Look how Felicity reacted to Sara sorry it screamed immaturity

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@ Trish

The rating are down the last few weeks across all the cw shows lmao plus ep 14 was promoted as Felicity centric where were the rating then lol.In my opinion the last 3 eps have been some of the strongest for the series with the last one imparticular close to the best of the series

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@ Ackerlover

Ratings don't support it. By your logic, 2x15 should have been up. They've promoted the heck out of 2x16, and it's Diggle; that's the only reason a lot of fans watched it. The question will be Birds of Prey. I, for one, won't bother with it. I couldn't care less about any of those characters.

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Stop with the olicity bs let Sara/Oliver play out first please

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@ Ackerlover

Sooner the Sara/Oliver thing plays out and ends the better. I don't like her much. I only like her when she's doing the action stuff. When she's talking I find her very annoying.

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@ Katie

Well of course you don't like it your an Olicity worshipper the thing is Sara/Oliver have a deeper connection than Olicity ever will thats not an opinion that is a fact.So far we have only really scene 1 episode with Sara/Oliver together and guess what they both were happy both smiling and they work together so well and yes they have chemistry Caity/Stephen were the only one out of the 3 couples that did a chemistry test and it shows

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@ Ackerlover

He supposedly had a deeper connection with Laurel. (According to season 1) When he came back it was all about Laurel.
Even if I forget that, the connection between Sara and Oliver seems forced. (This is just my observation,) I would have rather liked if I got to know what happened on the island before they came to the point of having the relationship they currently have. It seemed all to sudden to me. And it feels like they keep changing the story in the flashbacks, whenever they think they have to change something in present time. So I feel like I can't trust what I've already been told because what I believe can always change in the flashbacks. (Sorry if my ideas are not clear, English isn't my first language) Whatever I ship or not, I think relationships in arrow is a mess. I'm just watching the show out of habit.
Being annoyed by the way she talks doesn't have anything to do with me being a shipper of any kind.