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The Mentalist Review: Less Valuable Than Horses

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It didn't take long for The Mentalist Season 6 Episode 19 to remind me why I hope the show gets picked up for season 7. As a matter of fact, it started with Wachos. 

For those who missed it, Wachos were the waffle/nachos combination that was the specialty of the food truck Jane was frequenting. Thanks to his craving for Mexican and keen observation skills, the FBI uncovered a human trafficking ring. 

Smiling Over Chinese
Jane, Lisbon, and Pike are all smiling over Chinese. Does Jane know she's considering leaving Austin?

I found it interesting that Lisbon didn't accept Jane's first phone call while she was out with Pike. Are late night phone calls from Patrick Jane the norm? It wasn't until the second call that she picked up and then she honestly thought he was only playing games and trying to ruin her date. 

When Jane told her, "You need to trust me," it was obvious that she didn't. At least not completely. 

Jane begging the dying woman to keep breathing was incredibly sad. He'd only just found her but he already felt a connection and a sense of responsibility for not being able to save her life. Patrick may have many faults but at his heart he is a good man. 

I believed the nutty drunk when he said he didn't remember where he found the woman on the road... but the way he kept insisting that he was trying to "fix her" was really disturbing. If the poor girl had found a sane person on the side of that road, she would have probably lived. Talk about terrible luck.

When Jane walked into the interrogation room with a beer, I knew exactly what he was up to. Jane is the master at accessing memories and sometimes a drunk's memory is better with a drink in his hand than without. 

I was a little surprised that the underground box only held one girl. I don't think they ever explained why she was down there and I'm wondering if it will play into the story somewhere down the line. 

The set up at the truck stop was a little far-fetched but completely worth it just to hear Cho read his part of the script over the air. Jane was right. He was incredible as Big Pete. Never underestimate Kimball Cho.

The black hats on Jane and Abbott looked completely ridiculous and I couldn't understand why the Qasimi brothers would risk coming back to the U.S. Why not just send another driver to pick up the truck? I'm sure they had several at their disposal. 

I was a little taken aback when Jane was negotiating over the fee for the girls and one of the brothers responded with, "they're girls, not race horses." It was horrible to think that animals would be worth more on the open market than these young women. 

I can only imagine the connections of Mr. Ridley. The brothers were adamant that he will bury the FBI and I have little doubt the Qasimi's will meet their end in jail long before anyone gets them to talk.

In the end, the photo on Cho's desk was a reminder that this case is far from over and I wondered why Lisbon promised Daniella that they'd find her sister when the odds are that they never will, no matter how hard they try. 

Now, about Teresa's big decision…

I found it interesting that she hadn't shared her news with Patrick but assumed that he knew as she told Abbott in this The Mentalist quote

Lisbon: Remember, Jane is a psyhic.
Abbott: A pretend psychic. If you haven't told him, chances are he doesn't know.

Is Abbott a Jisbon shipper? It felt like he was pushing pretty hard for Teresa to talk to Jane about her big decision.

When she finally did tell Jane, she specifically told him that Marcus makes it a point to be there for her. As Jane mumbled his congratulations, it's hard to tell if Lisbon was only paying attention to his words because, if so, she might have miss the rest of the story.

Jane looked sucker punched. He stumbled over his words as though he didn't know what to say and that tight smile was one of stress, not happiness.

I believed him when he said he wanted Lisbon to be happy but it was obvious that he was anything but. Now the question becomes, what will he do about it?

What do you think, TV Fanatics? Will Jane try to stop Lisbon from going to D.C. with Marcus Pike?

 

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It's funny when Lisbon do something that Lisbon's fans don't like it, they say is blame of the writers, but when Jane do something his fans don't like is blame of Jane. Hahahaha.

Washgurl36
@ PJ

Wow, you are so right. I have brought up before that both of those characters are at the mercy of the writers. I think we have a habit of thinking of Patrick as a real person, able to speak his own words or do his actions independently. I also noticed something strange about Pike. He was in an exchange with Lisbon about her taking time to answer his question about going to DC. He says something like, it's ok..take your time....and at the same is shaking his head back and forth ...meaning no no no. Was that the writers planting body language or was that the actor? It's all kinda funny.

Rationalgal2

There have been a fair number of complaints here about how Lisbon and/or Jane is being portrayed but I'm not much concerned. To me it looks like two people in a situation where they realize their relationship is changing but don't understand how that happened or why or what to do about it. Both talk past each other, can't seem to think of the right thing to say and are just in a godawful communications maze. I'm hoping tomorrow's episode will find them gaining more clarity.

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@ rationalgal2

Interesting (albeit a bit saddening) to see so much blame put on the writers, but I would like to offer another opinion and explain why in my very humble opinion they're indeed spot on. First post here, so please be kind ;) I've been reading a long for some time and have come to enjoy all the respectful and intelligent atmosphere here.
The matter of the point, as I see it, is that we're watching two characters who've been working together the better part of 10+ years. They're sort of like an old couple, and that's exactly the "problem". Mayhaps my own experience is influencing my view here, but I think you can have feelings for a colleague, and the situation just doesn't allow to be frank, or you're not sure of what'll happen if you speak up, and you don't want to endanger the good rapport that's there. After a while things tend to "normalize".
What I see are two people who've formed a strong friend-relationship over the years - me, being the stubborn romantic at heart, always would've liked to see something more. I have friends who watch the series with me, disagree, and we're still friends. That's the beauty of it.
I think Lisbon, never really being shown much different, has come to believe Jane sees her as sort of surrogate sister. Good soul she is she's always wanted the best for him; I'd call her more than just a little insecure when it comes up to imagining that might be her. I just loved the scene when she changes her mind about the shirt and joins Fischer's opinion. Class. Along comes a man to good to be true, just not Jane, and I can't blame her for falling for something that seems to be if second best at least realistic. There's the shipper in me that sees her constantly checking Jane if there isn't something that shows he's more than just a friend. ;)
Jane, on the other hand, learns pretty soon after returning from exile he might have to update his information on Lisbon's feelings towards him. Plus, he's got that massive "I could tell you're not interested in me because... you were interested in _me_"-complex going on. Loved him telling that to a villain while Lisbon's on the phone. And for all his skills at reading people, he can only see what is there to be seen, 'why' has always been just a matter of interpretation. Most times he's right, this time he's his own best blindfold. Pretty clear, she's told him two years are a long time, she wants to have control over her own life, and now it seems she's made a choice. He only wants her to be happy, and won't under any circumstances stand in the way. You know, not deserving and all. Unfortunately, he's a pretty good liar and good at keeping up masks. Until recently, he's probably just seen Liz looking at him to check a friend for an opinion.
I'm pretty sure he can tell "I'm happy" isn't the full truth, so hopefully there's some emotional rollercoaster up ahead. He's in trouble if he can't at the same time keep up his mask and form a simple subject-verb-object sentence. ;)
Two oafs in a boat without a paddle, and I have to say, I haven't seen so many funny yet heartbreaking scenes in quite a while. Both are imho acting completely within the respective psychology of their characters. Tragic, but well-done and thought-through. The beauty about it is the ending is still completely open - which it always should be for as long as possible in good writing.
I hope this is still Hollyweird and everything will take a good turn, but I see there's a lot of different options for the ending, a broad range between happy and sad.
Like I said, just my humble take on the situation, and yes, I worship the writers ;)

Rationalgal2
@ 7Roadrunner7

Thanks for posting and welcome to our chat group. Very thoughtful comments. I like the idea that both Jane and Lisbon want the best for each other but can't believe it's them. Insecurity running both ways for somewhat different reasons. Impossible to guess exactly how this turns out and it appears we won't know for sure until the final episode. I hope the writers give us an ending that is true to what they've already shown us and not cobble up some WTF! stuff out of thin air like they did for the Red John case.

Rationalgal2

CBS showed a rerun of Blue Heaven this evening and followed with a good promo for tomorrow's episode. I don't recall them ever doing that for reruns so it looked like they were trying to work up an audience for tomorrow evening. Shouldn't be hard. Blue Heaven was excellent and the sitcom before it was such trashy stuff that Blue Heaven looked like the greatest episode ever made in comparison. (Well it was close to being that anyhow.) Any viewer with any sense at all about what makes a classy show would certainly be interested in watching TM tomorrow.

Anitraward1

Something else, while watching the mentalist, I have detected things that I was not sure about. I have been able to detect the ad-libs and natural spontaneous reactions in certain scenes. If you watch close enough you can detect the differences in there acting based on their emotional states. You can detect what kind of chemistry they have with each other and so on. I'm amused by the fact that we caught set and prop mistakes but this is even more fun. I'll never watch actors the same way again. I'll always have one eye opened.

Anitraward1

I found a new show called the writer's room. I think you all should watch it. It discusses the process of how shows are written. They have the writers, producers, creator and actors. They talk about threads, arcs, plots, storylines. They talk about about how they advance all these things from episode to episode and season to season. It's on Sundance. Oh, it talks about formats and how they frame seems. Where they get their ideas and so on. Very interesting, very interesting. I forgot one big thing, today they were discussing the networks actually having their hands in how and what they can do in there shows. So, the networks really do influence and can change the outcomes of how a show is presented. The show that was in was House of cards. They are on Netflix as a original series. The creator said he was shopping his series around to the networks and went with Netflix because they got to keep total creative control. So it seems that all the things we were discussing about the networks were true. This show is very informative and it answers a lot of the questions we have asked on this site. Today they talked about the process of getting ideas for characters, what they will and won't do. Rewrites to scripts after it goes form the writers room to the table read with the actors. After seeing this show, I just don't think the mentalist will be cancelled. There are so many options for them. CBS is not the only venue for this show. If the show is cancelled, it just maybe that Heller and cast were ready for that to happen or to continue on with someone else might not be as lucrative as they might want it to be.

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@ anitraward1

That is really interesting. Did you find it on tv cable, utube or what. Most definitely something good to watch! Thanks for the tip.

Anitraward1
@ Washgurl36

Your very welcome! I'm excited because we get to move to a different level in our viewing experience. We now have another tool. We're going to be dangerous pretty soon. Good thing we're not actual critics, somebody would be in serious trouble or not. Watching the mentalist has been really enlightening. Look at the knowledge we have all gained. We're not just viewers anymore! We're super viewers!.I guess that's the price of progress. Now they really have to sing for their suppers! 😱

Anitraward1
@ Washgurl36

Yeah, you're going to love it. It answers all the questions we've been batting around. It's like being an insider. You have access to the whole process. Shows creation, production, writing, actors and so on. I have the show DVRed. I hoping the mentalist shows up on this new show. I'm pretty amped about the show. You get a better understanding of what goes on and you can compare it to how close or not you were to what you assumed was going on. Very interesting! You are very welcome!

Anitraward1
@ Washgurl36

Cable tv on the Sundance channel.

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@ anitraward1

Thanks

Rationalgal2

I just watched a rerun of the final two episodes of "Monk" on a TV channel here that runs old series in syndication. It has always been obvious to the TM plot borrowed much from Monk. Very similar plots and character types yet done quite differently. Both very good. What struck me today was how very similar they were basically. Monk spent about 12 years ("most of his adult life") looking for the murderer of his wife, and determined to kill the guy. (He almost did but the killer killed himself first.) In getting his life back together Monk was having a difficult time figuring out what and how to do it. It turned out he "needed someone to love him." The TM writers definitely watched that series for the basic ideas, so I'm wondering how much of the Monk ending will show up - or is showing up - now in TM. The final scene was a montage of clips from episodes with the voice over singing "I'm sure gonna miss you when I'm gone." I thought how well it applied to TM and it was kind of sad. The final 2 Monk episodes might be worth watching for TM fans. It's probably available on something like Netflix.

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@ rationalgal2

Except Monk did not end up in a romantic relationship.

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@ euterpe

I have always had an enormous sentiment for Monk. The show had one problem though. While it steadily progressed till the end of Season 6, Season 7 was a complete crawl back for the main character. For no apparent reason Monk writers backed away from the progress he had made and rewrote him as the same totally self-centered person he has been at the beginning. It was clear for me the writers have first aimed at the sort-of-romantic relationship between Monk and Natalie and then changed their minds and changed the broadcast order of already filmed episodes to efface the impression they otherwise would have made on viewers. It was only for the best that no romance had been written for Monk and Natalie, but the means with which it had been achieved were rather awkward, to name only a thunderbolt-like romance for Natalie and some random comments Monk makes on what Natalie says several episodes later. It also didn't seem to me that there was any consistent
plan from the beginning on how to solve the murder of Trudy. That's apparently the sad quality TM shares with Monk :(

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@ First one here

Forgotten to add there was a character progress again in Season 8, but it was sort of forced IMO. Besides, the unpleasant taste from Season 7 lingered on :(

Rationalgal2
@ euterpe

Yes, Monk did not end up in a romantic relationship, but he never had one that was possible. He only needed someone to love and he found it in Trudy's daughter whom he though had died. If the TM writers are picking up ideas from Monk I suppose they would have Jane get together with Lisbon as the only credible option. Also, Monk was always shown much more dedicated to his wife in a very visible tearful way, so as far as I know he never even had the little tentative flirtations Jane has had to indicate he might yearn for a lover. And he had different women as helpers in the series with never the slightest hint of any emotion deeper than a likable compatibility. The women always had other interests. Regardless of how TM turns out I found the similarities especially striking in basic murder of wife and need for revenge plot and having the crime solvers rather quirky and exceptionally observant and able to solve crimes in out-of-the-box ways. Both good shows!

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@ rationalgal2

That is interesting. I watched a few episodes years ago, but did not get into it. Simon Baker has also said in an interview with Larry King, my favorite, that the show is not dissimilar to the model used for Columbo. He calls it a throw back and that the character is a character, a regular cat. They probably have picked up themes from both shows. The most thing I remember about that character was Peter Falk and his trademark wrinkled trench coat. If I remember, he appears to be bumbling, but is always able to solve the crime by the clues. I'll give it a look see on Netflix.....see if they have Monk.

Anitraward1

I was thinking about the Jane and Lisbon relationship. The characters themselves, without the writers, if you can believe that. The stand alone characters as they have been written to this development point would have resolved their issues. The characters alone are not so flawed that they would act in such a manner. They are both bright intelligent people capable of making critical decisions. So the writers have put these characters in a situation that is not characteristic of them. For these two characters to be in this type of situation belies their intelligence. It also makes them look more then deficient across the board. This type of tease is why the Red John arc ended the way it did. The writers took a good idea and beat the crap out of it. You can only stretch the imagination so far when you're working within curtain parameters. This is a case of that. I think if we the viewers are feeling frustrated, it's because it's gone past its logical conclusion into the realm of silliness. It's gone past the point most people would go. It falls to the point of dysfunction. The frustrating part is that these two characters as they were written and developed are not that dysfunctional. So now what we are really looking at is the writers stretching a storyline past its logical conclusion for their own reasons. They are playing Ken and Barbie with Jane and Lisbon!

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@ anitraward1

What I meant to say was that her reaction to the first fraternization was so different than her own with FBI.
Even if it is ok with them now, seemed to me that she would be more discreet with her situation than the writers have written her. I still say...this isn't Lisbon.

Anitraward1
@ Washgurl36

I agree with what you are saying about Lisbon's approach. I couldn't see it before but the way you stated it helped me understand what you were talking about. It also is in line with what I said about the writers doing it for their own reasons. They are just stirring up drama for the finale. I still haven't moved from my position on Lisbon, I'm on her side. What I'm wondering now is if they had any women in the writers room for this script? Interesting question I think. If this is coming from a strictly male perspective, it would explain why the character of Lisbon is acting this way. The vindictiveness of the character speaks to a male view of what a female might do when caught up in a situation like this. If it's not from a personal experience of a male, it may be what they think a woman would do. The reason I say this is because they got it all wrong. This is what I believe you all are saying. The Lisbon character is out of wack. They were writing with their pens upside down , they flipped Lisbon on her head.

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@ anitraward1

I thought along those lines when Lisbon suddenly, with no warning appears to go gaga over someone she has just met.
What really seemed off to me was her reaction to VanPelt/Rigsby when it was against CBI policy and had been for a number of years I would guess. FBI must be wide open in that regard because she doesn't hide anything and supposedly everybody knows the relationship between she and Pike. Knowing her character, I would assume she still would be reticent to show feelings around the office. The writers are really doing them a disservice. So....if they are just using this interlude to move the story along, I say shame on them because she isn't coming across like the "good ole Lisbon" we all love. I would like to hear Robin Tunney's take on this. In a way this reminds me of The West Wing where they had the character Toby behave in a way that he knew Toby wouldn't have done in a million years. He wound up leaving under not pleasant terms.

Anitraward1
@ Washgurl36

I thought that too, what do both Baker and Tunney think about having to portray their characters like this. The storyline just seems off for them. I think this is the writers way of creating drama and dragging the the views along. It worked ok with the Red John arc, but it doesn't work so well with a relationship. It's like beating a dead horse and making us watch. That long arc with Red John was ridiculously long and then the ending was not in proportion with the build up. I have no more patient for that kind of drama especially where a relationship is concerned. These two characters are in their forties and I can't wrap my mind around them acting like 5th graders.

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@ anitraward1

Amen to that.

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I think this "relationship" with Jane and Lisbon should have resolved in Violets. Jane and Lisbon should have had the "Talk" and see where it was heading before introducing Pike to the show. With Pike on the show, Lisbon is now unhappy, upset and sad (if Pike is moving too fast she should have said something) She is pretending that she is happy, but truly, I don't see it. If she is worried what Jane will think about her moving to DC why not mention it to him? If he is her best friend, would she not have asked him what he thinks about Pike? What will happen if Pike propose to her, she going to say yes and hide her ring so that Jane will not see it? I think if she feels that she truly deserve happiness, then forget Jane and move on (I am a huge fan of Jane and Lisbon) but lately I don't like the way the episodes are heading with Jane, Lisbon and Pike. It is becoming like a soap opera. If they wanted Lisbon to have a relationship outside of Jane, they should introduce Pike since she told Jane on the plane that she is will not waiting around for him. Why did Lisbon suddenly decide to move on with her life? is it because Jane bought everyone presents and did not bring her anything? She seem hurt when Jane gave Kim that wand, and nothing for her (Black Helicopters) Should there be a Season 7 (and I hope there is one) I would like the writers to let us know what happen to the following:
1. What happen to the Blake society?
2. What happen to the codes that Grace gave Jane?
3. What about the list of names that Jane gave to Abbot?
4. What happen to Cristina Frye?
Instead of adding another person on the show, they should have resolve these issues instead of leaving them as cliff hangers. Just my opinion:)

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@ Grissom

Don't hold your breath. This show rules when it comes to dropped storylines.

Rationalgal2
@ Grissom

Good comments. IMO Jane didn't get Lisbon a gift because he was giving things each person had long wanted very badly. Jane said "I know what people want. It's what I do." So maybe he knows that Lisbon has wanted him for a long time, but he can't give her that. Not that he doesn't love her but that he loves her too much and thinks she deserves better than the manipulative con artist he is - or maybe more likely has been in ways he can't forgive himself for. As for the Blake Assn, that was such a phony contrived business. Not at all what Red John would have. The Blake Assn was just a bunch of dirty cops. RJ was into philosophical musings about the "big picture" and enlightenment and having worshipful minions to kill and die for him. IMO the Blake Assn was just the gift RJ gave the small town nobody of a sheriff McCallister to get him to killand die for him, just another sacrificial surrogate like Timothy Carter. I always though Kristina Frye would make a good consort for RJ - such a manipulative charlatan - and still think she is out there with RJ, both still alive but having grown tired of serial killing and game playing,maybe just waiting to see Jane sent to prison for life so they can say "game over." The list of name - IMO - was phony and both Abbott and Jane know it. It was a little dance to get Jane into the U.S. and the FBI for both Jane's and Abbott's benefit. There could never have been a list Abbott would have because it was of all the RJ followers and no one knew who RJ was or who other followers were excepted within each one's small group. For Abbott to know who they were, they would have had to self-identify, which would be stupid. The writers have not shown us this in so many words but it is all there in the episodes. The real Rj is Bob Kirkland's brother Michael, last seen killing Lennon in that hospital room. He had the severely abused childhood to twist him into serial killing and plenty of connections and resources through Visualize and Homeland Security. IMO that's the story, whether the writers want to let us know or not.

Anitraward1
@ Grissom

Very well stated, I agree.

Rationalgal2

FYI: The Nielsen ratings for the week the Brown Eyed Girls ep aired have TM at #18 out of the top 20 prime time shows. The Good Wife is #11. 60 Minutes (the only other Sunday pm show to make the Top 20) was #8 but I don't think we can count that because it is more like a news program and comes on very early (6 p.m. CDT). So despite all its scheduling problems, TM is holding its own in very tough circumstances.

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Whats the quality of the crime plot like in this episode? On the clip I saw the dying woman scene was heart-rending. I fee fairly safe in asking about the plot, this first week anyway, as I believe its running multiple episodes, so I guess not much has been revealed yet? I really like the longer story lines. I cant decide if to leave this discussion again so as not to know the ending of this season in advance, or if its better to know the ending of the Jisbon (or not) in advance in case it turns out to be a disappointing ending - not sure I want that as a surprise.

Rationalgal2
@ Just Passing

The crime of the week started the sex trafficking arc and, in addition to that heartbreaking scene of Jane comforting the dying girl, was notable for the very charming way Jane worked a con to find the bad guys of the week (they still have to find the mastermind). Jane looks SO good in a cowboy heart and is so cute doing a Texas accent! And Simon obviously knows it as he plays to the camera. He showed how, in running his con, he can portray disgustingly unscrupulous characters really well if such a role is offered him.

Rationalgal2
@ rationalgal2

Oh, and the episode showcased what a great team Jane and Abbot make. Abbott just fits right in. Great chemistry! They work together to well! They could do a great buddy cop show together.

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@ rationalgal2

It appears to me that the writers are just trying to find a way of replacing the Rigsby/Cho dynamic - comedic foil/straight man. Wiley/Cho wasn't cutting it because Wiley doesn't generally leave the office, limiting their interaction. Jane has taken the place of Rigsby paired with the straight man Abbott. Personally, I like the original better. It's like Jane is being used to play the role of all your literary stock characters - misunderstood bad boy, tragic hero, star-crossed Lothario, comedic side-kick, etc. I know Baker is a good actor, but really, it's getting to be a little ridiculous.

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@ rationalgal2

Boy, I agree there. They could. I have turned a complete 180o on Abbott. Rockmond Dunbar.(may not have the name right) is a really good actor. He and Baker remind me so much of a well timed comedy team. Baker is so much more than a foil for the beautiful girl thing.

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@ Just Passing

Hi JP...do you have access to cbs.com where you live? They have the current episode. I don't remember how long you have to wait to catch up to us over here. Christine on the tvfanatic site always has a good review of the episode. As long as you can get to the posting page, you should be able to get to the review. You posted earlier a question regarding Patrick's remark that he was being indicted for murder.....I understand your question more now, after rewatching tgecsneakbpreviee. As it was presented, it could be part of a long con to catch a drug thug along side the arc relating to the dying woman. I read that the arc would be three episodes long and then the finale would be a more romantic episode. Hmmmmm. This last week's episode was very very good in my opinion.
It is so sad to see the the show jel together, knowing that it may be too late to see it extended. Hard to keep positive, but I'm sure trying. As I've said before, I'm vexed at what they've done with Lisbon's character, no doubt to move the plot along. I do NOT want to see PJ end up with a broken heart. I am torn between impatiently waiting for the finale and not wanting the possibility of the end coming.

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@ Washgurl36

Sorry, that should have read....sneak peek preview. No edit choice when I posted :(

The Mentalist Season 6 Episode 19 Quotes

Lisbon: Remember, Jane is a psyhic.
Abbott: A pretend psychic. If you haven't told him, chances are he doesn't know.

Sorry, scanning long range frequencies is like… I don't have a metaphor. It's hard.

Wiley
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