I think the Curse of the Dark One can be lifted. If you remember when Belle is first introduced, Regina was the one who gave the idea to Belle in the first place; had Belle succeeded in kissing Rumpel, then Regina would have one less powerful magic-user contend with.
True love is like OTP. One can love another, but that love doesn't necessarily translate to "true love", similiar to Snow and Charming, and Emma's love for Henry. The reason the curse of the dark one wasn't lifted when Cora and Rumpel kissed was because Rumpel's true love is down the line, with Belle. Also, their first on-screen kiss wasn't above love, it was abut Cora trying to survive, and for Rumpel to ensure his future.
Recast the spin-off, and leave Stan as Hatter on OUAT. Once the spin-off happens, then recast, but not before. Recasting based on a potential spin-off ruins the already built-in dynamic that the Hatter has because of Stan's portrayal.
I actually saw Jackson's election as quite obvious, given that Catherine was adament about the young plastic surgical fellow taking a more leadership role within the foundation. Seeing how the Foundation put up at least a $150M, it made sense that Catherine saw his as an opportunity to advance her son in the spotlight.
Dorrit needs to get over it already. It's getting kind of annoying how every single outburst is due to "not having her mom around." It's a cry for attention each and every time and with these many episodes in, she needs to get over it... quick.
As far as we've seen, the Curse brought over people who had set foot in the Enchanted Forest and/or had direct contact with Rumple. I don't think we've seen people yet who were brought over from other lands that didn't encounter those two things.
It hasn't been confirmed by the show's dialogue, but April is most likely a general surgery attending as it's the only thing she can practice (since her residency was in general surgery). For her to take on a fellowship, especially in trauma, she would have needed to pass her surgical boards to be board-certified.
Given the new information of how Cora and Rumple used to "seal" their agreements, it wouldn't surprise me if Regina ended up being Rumple's daughter and Bael's half-sister.
I think Lizzie was speaking of the time Meredith and Derek had Zola leading up to the plane crash. They finally got custody on 8x10, so there was some time. And given that her brother was also involved in the crash, I don't believe Lizzie was disparaging that experience either.
I can't wait until they tell the story of how Cora went all Sith lord on Rumpel, see the falling of their relationship, and how Cora because Rumpel's apprentice.
Like the folly of all villians, Regina succumbed to pride and arrogance. She didn't think that Cora would have expected an assualt nor did she expect Cora to keep her heart in a different location.
She said so herself, she always had a certain weakness with Cora. Hook offers a dead body, the fake heart; to her, it was proof the deed had been done.
That IS an interesting theory. I had thought about it, since we have yet to see anyone else from the other world's who has not been touched by the Enchanted Forest.
It didn't seem that Regina was too sure as she said she couldn't "risk" it. As it was not her curse, Regina probably didn't know the full extent of the curse's reach.
I don't think the Bean requires a navigating medium, like the ash from the wardrobe. The bean, in itself, creates portals and it's up to the bean-user to determin the destination. Remember when Hook used it to open a portal to Neverland? The compass wasn't in his possession either.
I think the compass was needed because the ash from the wardrobe was badly damaged, although the lake repaired it to create the portal, the compass was needed to give it direction.
I don't believe Emma is "immune" to Cora, as she's shown to be susceptible to Cora's magic. True Love is the most powerful magic, and I think Emma, being in the Enchanted Forest, subconsciously kickstarted her own magical abilities - almost like an inherent defense system.
Perhaps maybe when Cora tried to go after Emma's heart, especially acting upon love (sacrificing herself for MM), Emma's magic manifested.
If all worlds were no exception to the Dark Curse, then why did Cora return to the Enchanted Forest? She possessed magic in Wonderland, and she had subjects that served her already that would've been protected by the barrier spell... so why return?
I think the Dark Curse only pulled the ones from the Enchanted Forest. Just because the last we saw of Jefferson and Dr. Frankenstein doesn't necessarily mean they didn't make it back to the Enchanted Forest.
OUAT storytelling is, something frustratingly so, non-linear. So we could see the events in the future, and in the past, and still not know the inbetween.
Anyone else notice that Emma is all "Xena"ed out on the episode picture holder? It's the fairytale princess' gowns, and Emma's infamous leather jacket.
Don't count Aurora and Mulan out just yet; they just started a new quest! And in this quest, she'll most likely train to fight, under Mulan's guidance. While Snow had the hardship of Queen Regina to live under and training most of her adult life, Aurora was sleeping; now that Aurora is awake, she might prove herself just a capable "warrior-princess" as Snow.
The show is 20+ episodes, and QoH is only the 9th episodes of the season. Remember how long it took us to finally learn the reason why Regina hated Snow so much?
It also has to work with the actors' scheduling: Eion Bailey and Sebastian Stan also work at other shows, especially the latter as he is a principal cast member in Political Animals.
Stories can only be told at their availability.
I'm sure they'll tell those stories soon enough; OUAT is one of the shows that always keep their continunity.
Given that Cora knew so much of the curse, I wonder if Rumpel shared the designs of the curse to Cora and she refused? Hence why he needed Regina to turn against her mother and play out what he foresaw?
I'm glad my theory, albeit slightly different, was proved true. I didn't expect the Hook angle though; how did Jefferson leave Wonderland is the question that remains to be answered.
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I think the Curse of the Dark One can be lifted. If you remember when Belle is first introduced, Regina was the one who gave the idea to Belle in the first place; had Belle succeeded in kissing Rumpel, then Regina would have one less powerful magic-user contend with.
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True love is like OTP. One can love another, but that love doesn't necessarily translate to "true love", similiar to Snow and Charming, and Emma's love for Henry. The reason the curse of the dark one wasn't lifted when Cora and Rumpel kissed was because Rumpel's true love is down the line, with Belle. Also, their first on-screen kiss wasn't above love, it was abut Cora trying to survive, and for Rumpel to ensure his future.
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It hasn't been confirmed by the show's dialogue, but April is most likely a general surgery attending as it's the only thing she can practice (since her residency was in general surgery). For her to take on a fellowship, especially in trauma, she would have needed to pass her surgical boards to be board-certified.
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I think Lizzie was speaking of the time Meredith and Derek had Zola leading up to the plane crash. They finally got custody on 8x10, so there was some time. And given that her brother was also involved in the crash, I don't believe Lizzie was disparaging that experience either.
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Like the folly of all villians, Regina succumbed to pride and arrogance. She didn't think that Cora would have expected an assualt nor did she expect Cora to keep her heart in a different location.
She said so herself, she always had a certain weakness with Cora. Hook offers a dead body, the fake heart; to her, it was proof the deed had been done.
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That IS an interesting theory. I had thought about it, since we have yet to see anyone else from the other world's who has not been touched by the Enchanted Forest.
It didn't seem that Regina was too sure as she said she couldn't "risk" it. As it was not her curse, Regina probably didn't know the full extent of the curse's reach.
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I don't think the Bean requires a navigating medium, like the ash from the wardrobe. The bean, in itself, creates portals and it's up to the bean-user to determin the destination. Remember when Hook used it to open a portal to Neverland? The compass wasn't in his possession either.
I think the compass was needed because the ash from the wardrobe was badly damaged, although the lake repaired it to create the portal, the compass was needed to give it direction.
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I don't believe Emma is "immune" to Cora, as she's shown to be susceptible to Cora's magic. True Love is the most powerful magic, and I think Emma, being in the Enchanted Forest, subconsciously kickstarted her own magical abilities - almost like an inherent defense system.
Perhaps maybe when Cora tried to go after Emma's heart, especially acting upon love (sacrificing herself for MM), Emma's magic manifested.
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If all worlds were no exception to the Dark Curse, then why did Cora return to the Enchanted Forest? She possessed magic in Wonderland, and she had subjects that served her already that would've been protected by the barrier spell... so why return?
I think the Dark Curse only pulled the ones from the Enchanted Forest. Just because the last we saw of Jefferson and Dr. Frankenstein doesn't necessarily mean they didn't make it back to the Enchanted Forest.
OUAT storytelling is, something frustratingly so, non-linear. So we could see the events in the future, and in the past, and still not know the inbetween.
Once Upon a Time Review: Good Always Wins
Once Upon a Time Review: Good Always Wins
Don't count Aurora and Mulan out just yet; they just started a new quest! And in this quest, she'll most likely train to fight, under Mulan's guidance. While Snow had the hardship of Queen Regina to live under and training most of her adult life, Aurora was sleeping; now that Aurora is awake, she might prove herself just a capable "warrior-princess" as Snow.
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The show is 20+ episodes, and QoH is only the 9th episodes of the season. Remember how long it took us to finally learn the reason why Regina hated Snow so much?
It also has to work with the actors' scheduling: Eion Bailey and Sebastian Stan also work at other shows, especially the latter as he is a principal cast member in Political Animals.
Stories can only be told at their availability.
I'm sure they'll tell those stories soon enough; OUAT is one of the shows that always keep their continunity.
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