The thing is…Caroline is justified in her opinion.
It doesn’t have to disrupt Delena. AT ALL. If there had been just one line about Caroline remembering how Damon treated her. The episode could have ended the exact same way with Caroline agreeing to keep her opinions to herself and Elena wanting to be with Damon, I just wish they had included why Caroline is so anti-Damon instead of making her sound so irrational. Because being compelled, raped and fed on is a really good reason to not like a guy and not want him sleeping with your best friend.
Maybe it’s the rewatch of early season 1 that I’m doing but when Elena called out Caroline on “jumping into bed” with Damon, I just found that really insensitive. Elena, do you not remember her breaking down, sobbing in your arms, covered in bites and bruises, saying that she’s fine but obviously knowing she wasn’t? God knows Caroline is rash and judgmental…but have you forgotten where she’s coming from?
I actually would love to see Spencer and Caleb being friends, they could be hilarious together. Just because a guy and a girl spend time together does not mean they need to get together, besides, Caleb still cares for Hanna and I'm sure Spencer would have some reservations about going after about her best friend's ex, especially considering how much she loves Toby. Not sure about that Wrenna kiss though...
If the guys of Rosewood ever sat down to compare notes, they could probably help the girls figure out what's going on. I'm so glad Toby took a stand, may this lead to some action in figuring out what the hell's going on.
Only on GG could the man who actively tried to ruin your life and rape your stepmom come back on good terms. But I can't even be angry about it, Jack as a comedic character was hilarious last time, and I'm really excited for his return.
Can somebody please refresh my memory and tell me why everybody was such a bitch to Jeremy about Anna? Maybe it's because we viewers have the luxury of fully hearing Anna's side and I know I definitely prefer her over Bonnie but I feel like I've forgotten something that explains all that animosity.
I really hope they bring her back, I really, really like her character. If nothing else, she's a beautiful example of how no matter how old a vampire is, they still retain the emotions of their age. She was a scared, lonely teenage girl and I was hoping for more Jeremy/Anna. They're a better ship than Jeremy/Bonnie at the moment.
Personally I really dislike Bonnie simply because her character seems to very self-righteous and judgemental, and is written flat. And VD is becoming one of those shows where the villians are FAR more interesting than the good guys. It also doesn't help that I love Anna, she's seems like a much more dynamic character.
I can't tell if the twin thing was setting up for the book's plotline of Alison's twin or if it was the show's writers paying homage to the book series that started the show. Either way, the story was creepy.
I really, really prefer the girls (especially Spencer and Hanna) the way they are now as opposed to when they were with Alison. It was weird seeing them timid. I honestly can't understand why they put up with her for as long as they did. I'd actually love Jenna for standing up to Ali if it wasn't for the scene with Toby and Emily that showed that he was already suffering under Jenna's rule. Poor boy, I wanted to give him a hug.
And as much fun as this special was, it was...weird seeing Alison for a full episode. It's one thing in short flashbacks where we see how manipulative she was, but a full episode showed that she was borderline psychopathic. Honestly, the smug, condesending way she would talk whenever she had a secret, is it any wonder she made so many enemies?
Wow, this Charlie/Ivy thing is so screwed up that I forgot there was a real Charlie Rhodes out there somewhere. I'm actually interested to see where that goes.
Personally I thought Mercedes was being a bit childish. Rachel is egotistical, annoying and arrogant but she wanted to win fair and square. She was ready to accept sharing the lead with Mercedes and at the end, was guilty that things turned out the way they did. Plus, something seemed off with Mercedes, she's unsually been more reasonable but she was snappy, and feeling sick, was their something more going on there?
I absolutely loved this episode, mostly for Stefan, Klaus and Rebecca. I'm pretty sure the flashback with drunk Stefan and Klaus was probably my favourite in the entire series, they actually had a bromance. A bromance! To be honest I really want to see more of that comraderie. Plus, I loved the character of Rebecca, I imagined her to be clingy Katherine, but she seems quite enigmatic.
After all that's happening with the originals and curses and what appears to be some ancient Big Bad worse than Klaus I actually found it distracting to see Damon and Elena on screen. Kudos to Damon for willing to risk every thing for his brother, but it was actually kind of nice to see Stefan telling Elena to just go home. Obviously she knows nothing about all of this, but from the viewers standpoint she should really just go into hiding and pray she doesn't get killed. And interesting to see Katherine again. I won't say she's completely useless just yet, but I want to see them actually do something with her. How's she going to react to this Rebecca?
And it was a little dissapointing to see so little of the Caroline storyline, after a really good cliffhanger. I didn't miss it much because I was too focused on Stefan and Klaus, but how did I miss the scene where Sheriff Forbes figured out where Caroline was? I really feel like there should have been a scene, or am I blanking on something?
Anyway, I'm starting to hope Ripper Stefan sticks around for a while. He and Klaus were really funny together, I am so excited to see where that relationship goes.
What I don't understand is why the girls are STILL keeping A a secret from everybody. If they honestly suspected that Dr. Sullivan was in trouble (and if she was missing long enough she would've been classified a missing person), then they should've come clean to help her.
At this point, they're scared that if they tell someone about A their lives will be ruined, but A's already ruined each of their lives in this episode alone. How long can this go on?
I wouldn't put it past the show to throw the horseshoe in as a Chekov's Gun, but realisticly, the police aren't going to care about a horseshoe missing from an old barn. I think the whole point of showing it was to explain (to the audience) that A killed Ian.
A is a vampire. Specifically, a Vampire Diaries vampire. Because honestly, most of Rosewood has now probably seen this mysterious gloved person wandering around, but no one mentions anything because they've all been compelled.
For anybody who has seen the 'What should A do next?" videos on ABC.com, you'll notice the extent of A's stalking, it is CREEPY. He/she/it has pictures of them from all over the place, there is no way a normal person can pull that off, while still keeping up a regular life (which all the suspects have. Well maybe not completely regular..) Therefore, A is a vampire. Yup, only explanation. Because the amount that A's been able to pull off is veering into the realm of ludicrousy.
The kiss wasn't the reason they lost, they just weren't that good. I felt distinctly underwhelmed watching this competition compared to others. And really, the only people who took issue with the kiss was Jesse (who was jealous) and ND (who needed a scapegoat, they'll get over it and move on). I think the audience was a bit weirded out, wondering like Jesse, if the kiss was all part of the act or not. Plus, it's Glee. These things have to slide. They'll win next year for sure, because Nationals won't be the centre conflict, graduation will.
It has to be the real Red John Jane shot, anything else would be a cop out on the writers part after all these years of searching for him. I love the choice to portray him as a completely normal, sane man, it does make the fact that he viciously murdered people a lot creepier. And remember, this is a man who has supposedly entangled god knows how many people in his web. This is the same man that Rebecca, Bosco's secretary, honestly believed was doind good deeds for the world.
What's going to be interesting now is seeing how the team (especially Lisbon!) reacts to all of this. I have a feeling that the DA's animosity towards the SCU is going to come into play, but obviously, for the sake of keeping the show running, somehow, someway Jane will be exonerated. Clearly there are some Red John loose ends - what exactly did he do to Kristina? How is Bret Stiles involved? - and many more, I'd love to see Red John's accomplices all somehow come into play. Jane said the man had minions all over the state, perhaps Red John is no longer a single man, but a concept?
It was a great season finale, I actually punched the air when Jane fired the gun. The fact that Jane, who hates guns, willingly using one is just one of the subtle underlying bits that made this episode so well written. Can't wait for season 4!
My God the way the comments are going you'd think that Chuck beat Blair until she was black and blue. He didn't hit her, and while I'm not condoning his actions at all, I want to see what will happen between the two of them before we claim he abuses her.
Please commenters, realize that Blair has at no point in this show stood down when Chuck displayed aggressive behaviour. Blair is not some quivering, battered woman, she is a strong queen who calls out Chuck on his actions. So please, think about what you're typing before you hit submit.
So be real, Julie Plec is just trying to scare us (and judging from the reactions she's done a good job!). They won't kill Damon, but they'll save him in the last 10 seconds, or worse, leave it as a cliffhanger. He can't die, but I do want to see Stefan trying to help him because as I see it, we need more brother moments, I find that such a dynamic relationship.
I won't say I was let down by the 'major thing' because I was anticipating it to be a lot worse. Granted it was pretty damn bad as it was (Blair looked terrified!) but honestly I thought he would actually hit her or worse, rape her. As it stands, it's some pretty bad character assasination for Chuck, and I wonder how and if the writers will redeem him in any way. Considering everybody hates him it looks like he's really going to be put through the ringer by Jack.
And on the subject of Jack, why is Raina calling him? They introduced her as this upstanding, honest person, so why this underhanded move? Chuck wasn't the one who started the fire, he didn't know about it, and though he wanted her to stop digging, Chuck isn't responsible for this murder (if it was indeed a homicide, though the evidence does strongly support this, with this show you never know.) At the very least you'd think Raina would talk to Chuck, see the evidence or even call the police instead of Jack of all people.
Totally in agreement with Dan and Blair, I love them as friends! Together they're snarky but caring, she's realised he's not Brooklyn trash, he's realised she's actually human. They have a connection that I want to see last. And besides, Chair's endgame. After four seasons of all this love/hate, they have to end up together. I swear there's a rule about that.
Oh, and, there are fans that like Vanessa?? Where???
I think I need to remember that the "epic" promo set up stuff that's still yet to come and as the lovely reviewer pointed out, this episode is meant to set up the plotlines for the season's final epsiodes. I was actually taken by surprise on Blair's lack of feelings for Dan, I was sure that the kiss meant she discovered she had feelings for him. But she loves Chuck and as big of a Chair shipper as I am, I'm really glad they didn't get back together in this episode but instead took the opportunity to have Blair detail Chuck's immaturities. Now let's have him own up to them and we'll be set. Course, I'm eager to see how the prince fits into all this.
I didn't mind the adults' drama, but (as ususal) it's never as interesing as the younger set's. I am intrigued to know what Charlie's secret is. Oh and on a symbolic note, how sad was it to see Chuck's photo of him all by his lonesome? To add insult to injury, when Lily gleefully proclaims that she wants a family photo she seems to forget she has one more son. (Of course, considering it was Rufus gathering the family, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised.)
Something I realized in Stefan and Damon's confrontation: I am firmly on Team Salvatore. Elena and co. need Damon to make those tough life and death decisions, because those really get things done (and move the plot forward) but without Stefan to stop and think of the collateral damage, more innocent lives would be lost in the process, and Elena would hate that at the end of the day. I'm actually really excited to see what has them beating the crap out of each other next episode.
Oh and I have to say, I have never felt more sorry for Katherine. To see the confident, evil manipulator be reduced to a scared girl truly shows just how much a sadistic bastard Klaus can be.
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It doesn’t have to disrupt Delena. AT ALL. If there had been just one line about Caroline remembering how Damon treated her. The episode could have ended the exact same way with Caroline agreeing to keep her opinions to herself and Elena wanting to be with Damon, I just wish they had included why Caroline is so anti-Damon instead of making her sound so irrational. Because being compelled, raped and fed on is a really good reason to not like a guy and not want him sleeping with your best friend.
Maybe it’s the rewatch of early season 1 that I’m doing but when Elena called out Caroline on “jumping into bed” with Damon, I just found that really insensitive. Elena, do you not remember her breaking down, sobbing in your arms, covered in bites and bruises, saying that she’s fine but obviously knowing she wasn’t? God knows Caroline is rash and judgmental…but have you forgotten where she’s coming from?
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If the guys of Rosewood ever sat down to compare notes, they could probably help the girls figure out what's going on. I'm so glad Toby took a stand, may this lead to some action in figuring out what the hell's going on.
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I really hope they bring her back, I really, really like her character. If nothing else, she's a beautiful example of how no matter how old a vampire is, they still retain the emotions of their age. She was a scared, lonely teenage girl and I was hoping for more Jeremy/Anna. They're a better ship than Jeremy/Bonnie at the moment.
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I really, really prefer the girls (especially Spencer and Hanna) the way they are now as opposed to when they were with Alison. It was weird seeing them timid. I honestly can't understand why they put up with her for as long as they did. I'd actually love Jenna for standing up to Ali if it wasn't for the scene with Toby and Emily that showed that he was already suffering under Jenna's rule. Poor boy, I wanted to give him a hug.
And as much fun as this special was, it was...weird seeing Alison for a full episode. It's one thing in short flashbacks where we see how manipulative she was, but a full episode showed that she was borderline psychopathic. Honestly, the smug, condesending way she would talk whenever she had a secret, is it any wonder she made so many enemies?
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After all that's happening with the originals and curses and what appears to be some ancient Big Bad worse than Klaus I actually found it distracting to see Damon and Elena on screen. Kudos to Damon for willing to risk every thing for his brother, but it was actually kind of nice to see Stefan telling Elena to just go home. Obviously she knows nothing about all of this, but from the viewers standpoint she should really just go into hiding and pray she doesn't get killed. And interesting to see Katherine again. I won't say she's completely useless just yet, but I want to see them actually do something with her. How's she going to react to this Rebecca?
And it was a little dissapointing to see so little of the Caroline storyline, after a really good cliffhanger. I didn't miss it much because I was too focused on Stefan and Klaus, but how did I miss the scene where Sheriff Forbes figured out where Caroline was? I really feel like there should have been a scene, or am I blanking on something?
Anyway, I'm starting to hope Ripper Stefan sticks around for a while. He and Klaus were really funny together, I am so excited to see where that relationship goes.
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At this point, they're scared that if they tell someone about A their lives will be ruined, but A's already ruined each of their lives in this episode alone. How long can this go on?
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For anybody who has seen the 'What should A do next?" videos on ABC.com, you'll notice the extent of A's stalking, it is CREEPY. He/she/it has pictures of them from all over the place, there is no way a normal person can pull that off, while still keeping up a regular life (which all the suspects have. Well maybe not completely regular..) Therefore, A is a vampire. Yup, only explanation. Because the amount that A's been able to pull off is veering into the realm of ludicrousy.
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What's going to be interesting now is seeing how the team (especially Lisbon!) reacts to all of this. I have a feeling that the DA's animosity towards the SCU is going to come into play, but obviously, for the sake of keeping the show running, somehow, someway Jane will be exonerated. Clearly there are some Red John loose ends - what exactly did he do to Kristina? How is Bret Stiles involved? - and many more, I'd love to see Red John's accomplices all somehow come into play. Jane said the man had minions all over the state, perhaps Red John is no longer a single man, but a concept?
It was a great season finale, I actually punched the air when Jane fired the gun. The fact that Jane, who hates guns, willingly using one is just one of the subtle underlying bits that made this episode so well written. Can't wait for season 4!
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Please commenters, realize that Blair has at no point in this show stood down when Chuck displayed aggressive behaviour. Blair is not some quivering, battered woman, she is a strong queen who calls out Chuck on his actions. So please, think about what you're typing before you hit submit.
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And on the subject of Jack, why is Raina calling him? They introduced her as this upstanding, honest person, so why this underhanded move? Chuck wasn't the one who started the fire, he didn't know about it, and though he wanted her to stop digging, Chuck isn't responsible for this murder (if it was indeed a homicide, though the evidence does strongly support this, with this show you never know.) At the very least you'd think Raina would talk to Chuck, see the evidence or even call the police instead of Jack of all people.
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I didn't mind the adults' drama, but (as ususal) it's never as interesing as the younger set's. I am intrigued to know what Charlie's secret is. Oh and on a symbolic note, how sad was it to see Chuck's photo of him all by his lonesome? To add insult to injury, when Lily gleefully proclaims that she wants a family photo she seems to forget she has one more son. (Of course, considering it was Rufus gathering the family, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised.)
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Oh and I have to say, I have never felt more sorry for Katherine. To see the confident, evil manipulator be reduced to a scared girl truly shows just how much a sadistic bastard Klaus can be.