I think they have used the clues and mystery portions as huge marketing tools. I believe it was the 100th episodes anniversary interview with Heller that he plainly says look for clues. Most viewers tuned into this type of series like that type of challenge. I don't know what is or is not a clue or how it might link up as far as the series goes. So I turn over everything that seems usual or out of place. over the years we have found some pretty good stuff. It's like playing who dunnit or clue on a weekly basis only with a tv show. This show is serialized and has been running that way for six years. The writers go back and forth with plot points. So I never throw anything out.
We seem to be going backwards right now. The old CBI team is being targeted and killed. It has to be from something in the past. Probably something Red John and his association related. They removed the Red John mystery which was a great draw. They went to 2.0 which was suppose to be light and now suddenly we are tossed right back into a dark mystery again. I guess numbers don't lie. The Red John mystery was a great gimmick. This is really what drew me to the series. They tease a lot in this series, they give pieces of clues, we go all crazy trying to figure them out then they drop them. Remember when Heller said Red John was like where's Waldo? McAllister was nothing like that. He was in one episode. You never know where the series is going or what their doing. I'm sure with some of the stuff they do in the series, they probably get a kick out of viewer response. Anytime the show has a big episode working, Simon Baker does lots of interviews. Why? To drum up interest, to keep people interested. The shows formatting is the same way. I'm always looking for clues. We've turned this show over so many times, I think most of us don't even have to consult the episodes anymore. I think it's a cool thing.
The names did not fit. There are others trying to break the code. Some are saying there are Greek characters, others say it's something else. They found that the mirror image stops half way down the list. Some are saying it garbage. Some think it's a location. They have symbols and characters from everywhere in the code. They think some of the characters were changed. I have a feeling that if they crack the code on the show they won't show it. They'll just say they did it. I'll work on it a little more. I like puzzles but not if there is a chance it's garbage. They knew people would try to break it. It's going to be petty funny if it's just garbage.
I just had an epiphany! We can try and fit the names of Thomas McAllister, Gale Bertram, Reed Smith, Brett Partridge and that Oscar guy into the symbols to create a mini key code. The rest can be deduced. Maybe it doesn't matter about where they got the as much as what letter the symbol represents. We might find a womans name on the list.
ET VOILA! ET nope, didn't work!
They were probably giggling over cocktails on this one. Nice one Heller and Baker!
Comment modified at February 18, 2014 06:29
AND.....each symbol should represent one letter in the Roman alphabet.
I believe we can deduce the smaller symbols by looking up names that use the same amount of letters as we have symbols. Then we can try and narrow down the double symbols to vowels and names that use double consonants, plus the Greek and Orgham alphabet.
Comment modified at February 18, 2014 01:43
Ok, I looked at the list and I believe the last names are first. So the first names are in the second row. There is an arrow that points to the second row on the first list and a curved arrow on the second list. I think it means flip the list so that the second row becomes the first row. Also the symbols in the second row are shorter which might indicate a first name.
My most recent favorite is in The Golden Hammer. It's when Jane slipped over by the pizza box, opened it and sniffed the old slice of pizza. He would have ate it if it hadn't been so old. He tickles me around food. He will eat just about anything. I don't know how many times he has been hit or slapped. You'd think he would know how to slip a punch by now. :-P
Comment modified at February 18, 2014 01:10
I see the orgham connection, ancient Irish and British. The Jane character is suppose to be Irish and Heller is British. Heller did the series Rome, so I know he knows about ancient languages.
Some of the symbols include a club, a heart and a spade. I looked them up and they are used by psychics sometimes instead of tarot cards to tell fortunes.
It appears that Heller and Baker put that coded list together. I'm not sure what the double image of the list means? Maybe the names are backwards as well. I don't know if this is garbage or not. I have a feeling that list is going to come back in play especially sense people from the CBI are being knocked off.
Do you all think we can break the code in two weeks?
Comment modified at February 18, 2014 00:56
@just passing, we must have had a psychic connection today! :-) I was watching the episode The Golden Hammer and I found something! I was looking at the part where the young man was being interviewed by Lisbon and Kim. The man had on a nine inch nails t-shirt. NIN for short. I kept thinking it was odd because everyone else was dressed in casual business clothing and here he is with that shirt on. What struck me was that the letters were so big. My thought about it caused me to look it up. I did that and then rewatched the episode again from the beginning and this is what happened.
As the drugged cartographer is running down the road, he says of I had time I would kick you out the box. I thought, I know he's drugged but what is he talking about. Then I thought of the NIN shirt. The NIN was encased in a oblong box on the t- shirt. I took it out and found that those initials also stand for the following:
NIN- a political magazine
NIN- cuneiform, which is Sumerian for women
NIN- national identification number, a way to track citizens
NIN-a human gene
NIN- a orgham alphabet, a ancient Irish / Britain secret language
Then the title of the episode hit me in the head like a hammer! Then I thought about that puzzle box that Lisbon used to get her keys out. Then I thought about Jane trying to break that code in the news paper. Then I thought about us messing around with the name Fibonacci which has to do with the Golden Radio. Then I thought about the title the Golden hammer.
Then I went back to Bertram's list and found that one of the symbols was from the orgham alphabet. Some were I believe Hebrew and some were Greek. Now this can't be a coincidence. They are still playing with us. I will start working on the coded names. Also the list mirrors itself. Both sides are identical. Crazy stuff right?
Comment modified at February 18, 2014 00:20
I did a study once on how people are manipulated by the religious con. How musical tones are used by whipping the goers into a mass hypnotic frenzy. They use a slow crescendo with lower tones until it reaches a higher pitch. They test the goers for compliance by asking questions throughout the service until they get them to the point where they ask for cash. Then they use the goers faith to rake in the cash! I have literally experience this. I am married to the son of a minister and boy it's been interesting! We were married by my husband's father. I was even kicked out of the church for not agreeing with him. No matter, he let me back in. Let me tell you, his father tried to use every trick in the book on me. I love life and I love all the B.S. life has to offer. That's why I love the Mentalist!
B.S. personified! Love, love, love it!
Comment modified at February 16, 2014 11:16
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