a)how to catch him b) what sacrifices to make c) who else is in danger from their attack(RJ has influence over alot of people, once his identity is found all hell could break loose). Now, maybe I'm wrong(its happened over and over again with this show) but I'll maintain by Christmas this RJ case won't just be Jane catches RJ, the end, now lets focus on Jane's afterlife post RJ. What complications those could be I think I need more spoilers, time to think or to see some season 6 episodes but this is the shows identity, it won't just get rid of it so fast. I agree completely with @Feint: If RJ wanted Jane dead at 3 on a Sunday afternoon, he would be dead by 5:30. It's very easy to kill a man in general whom you know anything about, where he lives and his routine. It's a 100X easier when a) no one knows your identity b) you have network upon network of "friends" no one knows about aiding you. Jane knows this also as the finale in May 2011 showed.
So wow, yeah there have been alot of spoilers the past few days so I'll give some takes here. First off @Entwife good lord that is a big blog, I thought people on here cared alot about the show but sweet jesus 101 pages? Just 3 pages worth of stuff from yesterday? Damn, that is ALOT of effort, I don't know what else I can even say. Anyway though I navigated through your blog and found those spoilers you were talking about, and yes from the sounds of them it really does seem I was wrong and that this show doesn't have an intention of dragging the RJ sequence until the finale. I still don't think it will be as open and shut a case as: Jane catches RJ the end, now lets focus on his aftermath psyche and life. He said the "conclusion of the RJ mystery", that is vague in a sense and if history shows us anything the writers are capable of twisting that so it means that its not a simple case of the story being over, rather them knowing RJ's identity and perhaps the issue being a)how to catch him b) what sacrifices to make c) who else is in danger from their attack(RJ has influence over alot of people, once his identity is found all hell could break loose).
I also from reading years worth of Heller interviews have also gotten the idea he never was huge on the Jisbon relationship developing, whether or not it happens I don't know but I think it's worth noting it's always sounded like he's been rather dubious about the idea. By the way for the record I'm for that idea I've never been nearly as big on the Jane-Lisbon romance as others, I just don't think it fits either's characteristics and who they are and when the show tries to show hints of it I always thought it was forced. Last thing, I disagree with others idea that there could be conflict from Lisbon stopping Jane from his revenge. I think that's kind of what the past 2 seasons have showed, that Lisbon also can believe in revenge of her own with Volker, that she will break the rules for him, that shes the other side and has relented to Jane's style. Now it is possible she tries to interfere with Jane's revenge plot or we get thrown some wild card like that but I don't think its nearly as clear cut as others are saying. That was 3 years ago.
First off @Entwife is there a link to that interview you posted? And yeah, those quotes are very revealing when Bruno starts saying things like "it'll be very hard for him to walk away" he isn't really talking about catching RJ, he is talking about post RJ life. And that's not something I ever thought the show would focus. Of course Heller is going to over exaggerate things, which is what I think that other female he is hinting to in spring 2014 is about probably, but when he says something like that I don't think he's blatantly misleading about RJ, I think that's him in an honest moment revealing there is post RJ and that RJ isn't going to dominate the entire season. Of course, this could all change on the whim and I am not expecting anything either way as of now, but that quote @Entwife sent surprised me and caught my attention.I also from reading years worth of Heller interviews have also gotten the idea he never was huge on the Jisbon relationship developing, whether or not it happens I don't know but I think it's worth noting it's always sounded like he's been rather dubious about the idea.
Last thing I will say is that the one card they haven't pulled yet that is inevitable is RJ going after someone close to Jane(and I think we all know who the most likely suspect is). It's interesting that they've leaked the idea of RJ being revealed by Christmas but there has been nothing leaked by this at all. This is purely conjecture and largely baseless one at that but if I had to venture there is a fair chance that Jane figures out RJ's identity and he responds by going after someone/or someones that he cares about. In fact, I almost feel like that's too obvious and easy a story line now that I write it but I could definitely see that based on what has been leaked. I was honestly kind of expecting the whole RJ going after a team member to be a storyline the show leaked at some point this summer.
The biggest thing this show has to worry about going forward is the amount of suspense and the way they've hyped up RJ. It's why Bruno said a year ago we would all likely be dissapointed by the ending and what the natural question always has been; you've spent all this time creating RJ as this omnipotent do no wrong figure who manipulates everyone in every which way possible, how in a matter of 10 episodes are you going to rewrite 5 years of that so that we will know his identity by Christmas? I'll be honest it's basically an impossible task, but it just depends on your perspective. If you want everything to fall in place, this isn't your place. We could all create lists of huge questions the show left unanswered. But if you go beyond that and appreciate the narrative in play and overall the end game, meaning behind it and if you've invested yourself in the characters, then there is a good chance you'll leave this show with mostly satisfaction next year.
That's never been Bruno's stance, that's never been what this show has hyped itself up as. It's always been Jane vs RJ and when RJ is done so is the show essentially. I still think the RJ issue isn't resolved until the series finale(which will be this season I can't see a season 7) but I am more hopeful now that we won't have some traditional boring ending that everyone can see a mile away. By the end I think which of the seven it is on the list won't really be what we care the most about, it'll be about the process and what all it entails.
point that that becomes a bigger story line b) RJ, always being one step ahead of everything, can still hide even with his identity being revealed. In the end though, I think this story becomes alot more than just finding RJ's identity. That's why the show has narrowed down the possibility so much already and leaked we will know it by December. What that trick up their sleeve is I don't know but I think investigating the lives of all 7 on the list and others will be a feature point on the show and I don't buy that RJ gets caught in December and then we get 15 episodes of post RJ life for Jane. I think we might potentially also get some CBI conflict the show has hinted at in the past with Lisbon's horrendous poker face and maybe some CBI-FBI drama they hinted at last year where everybody is suspicious of everyone and it creates an awkard working situation like in season 3 but even more so maybe. Either way I don't see this season as alot of post RJ life for Jane. That's never been Bruno's stance, I still believe this RJ saga doesn't end until the series finale(and I'm almost positive think this is the last season).
But this new spoiler of him being revealed by Dec seems a bit loaded. I don't think for the record that RJ will be caught by Dec. It's possible maybe only the viewers see who he is but not Jane(unlikely and frankly stupid but possible) or that everyone knows what he looks like or even knows who he is but there is alot more to the game and actually finding him(more likely). c) CBS has let it be known since the day after the finale(almost 3 months) that RJ would be caught in season 6. That tells me there is more to this story and that won't be the biggest thing we care about. The fact that they've also conveniently narrowed down the list to 7 for us(and I don't think the show is foolish enough to make RJ not one of the seven especially with these leaks that they are making it seem like Jane is doubting his list)means there is alot more than just finding RJ's identity. Couple possibilities here a) other people on the list are helping RJ or with him to the point that that becomes a bigger story line b) RJ, always being one step ahead of everything, can still hide even with his identity being revealed.
Something is a bit weird with all these spoilers CBS has been leaking. Lemme go over a couple things that have popped into my head a) It is possible we only get say 12-15 episodes this year. The same treatment NCIS NY got last year and many shows in the past have gotten where in their final season the number of episodes shrinks. They already cut season 5 by two episodes, I'd be a bit surprised frankly if we get more than 20 this year and it is possible they end TM early and try to debut a new show in that time to see what it does(as they did with Golden Boy this year). It's all speculation but when you see leaks like Red John will be revealed by end of 2013, that was my 1st thought. b) The key word here is "revealed", not caught. By now we should be used to these writers and their tricks enough to know that what we think we see isn't what we get. I have no doubt Red John a) is 1 of the seven on the list b) he will get caught this year. But I this new spoiler of him being revealed by Dec seems a bit loaded. I don't think for the record that RJ will be caught by Dec. It's possible maybe only the viewers see who he is but not Jane(unlikely and frankly stupid but possible) or that everyone knows what he looks like but there is alot more to the game and actually finding him(more likely).
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