"Jane is a really selfish s.o.b"------Does this come as any surprise to anybody? Jane is the hero of the show, the guy we all are so fascinated in and who so many worship and adore, but people confuse that with him being some kind of good guy with good character. There's no correlation whatsoever. Jane openly murdered Timothy Carter. He basically decided he wanted James Panzer dead and made it happen. There are millions of other things I've missed that even the most deceitful scumbags wouldn't do. He left the team once for 6 months without a word(and honestly much less of a reason than he does now). He's a horrible person, this should not come as news to anybody. What I think hurts people is the Jisbon aspect. The Jisbon worshippers. People always had this assumption that Jane really did care for Lisbon at anywhere near the level he cared about himself and RJ. Well if it wasn't clear enough before it sure is now once and forever; Jane is about Jane and Jane only. Lisbon is a friend, a good one who he cares enough about not to put in danger, but not someone to change the direction of his life over. Why that's upsetting so many people now after 6 years I don't get. If you had the opportunity to escape a life of prison and torture and near death probably, is it that crazy to say you would? Especially when the only people you are betraying aren't even family or lovers( and we can say once and for all Jane and Lisbon aren't lovers).
Can someone answer a couple questions for me though
1) Did we ever find out why Partridge died first?
2) Did we ever find out why or who the shotgun at his house was fired at?
3) Did we ever find out that good friend in the FBI he was referring to in the season 4 finale?
I honestly don't know the answer to these questions, wondering if someone else does.
His ditching of the team(which is indicative of what he's been doing this entire show----this isn't even his first ditch dating back to season 4) is exactly why I've never taken Jisbon seriously. It's just not realistic in anyway. But I'm not sure what people expect; a) he's about to be arrested and go to jail by some guy in the FBI with a rod up his ass looking to be tough and scare people and set examples b) the CBI is done. For those who always argued he was there for Lisbon and the team and for RJ, well neither of those are there now. What do you want him to do? Stay? Well that's not at all in his character from what we've seen for 6 years.
Read this interview: http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/24/the-mentalist-red-john-interview/2/
Hate to break it to you, but yeah it really is over. Forget about Red John stories, the show doesn't even plan on mentioning his name anymore.
It also caught my attention on how Bruno never really decided on who RJ was until later on and made it seem like it was a very fluid situation. a) that goes against what he said earlier where he said he already knew how the story would wrap up years ago b) no wonder there is so many different events that are helter skelter unorganized and seemingly contradictory. If in season 3 Bruno is thinking of making JJ LaRoche RJ, then in season 5 Bob Kirkland and then he wakes up this summer and decides to make it Thomas McCallister, how could RJ's events and the evidence about him not be contradictory? No wonder so much didn't and still doesn't really make that much sense about this storyline and in another interview when Xander who acted as McAllister suggested that he never expected to come back on the show after his first appearance early on makes it seem like Bruno was like----"ah let's see which random character from the first few years I can just get to sign a contract to come back on." No organization or methodology, to Bruno he said it "just felt right". That in itself isn't horrible but when it leads to a show where everything's just out of left field with no explanation and the next week we see completely different things, the methodology behind how RJ was decided has to been questioned.
The one thing I'll say that bothers me is Bruno Heller's attitude towards the details of this show and explaining things and what they mean that have happened in the past .
Check out his answer to the question why they didn't delve into how or why: “One of the things you discover when these figures of great evil are unmasked in real life is…. they tend not to be very interesting…. They tend to be egomaniacal one-track minds,” Heller explains. “As we laid out in the episode, and as Jane himself says, ‘The rest is details’” — the stuff of “great Internet fodder, but not very entertaining for a weekly TV audience. So as much as some people would love to delve into that, it’s not what this show does.”
How can a show not be about explaining the clues it throws? How can you just pile up years and years of things and basically ignoring them. There are small things I get, but there are just so many major unanswered questions and huge gaps but Bruno's approach rather than attempt to answer them is "nah, it's not important, it doesn't matter". Just makes no sense to me and really it's just in a built in lazy excuse and also just a lack of creativity on the writers part to not coming up with good explanations. Of course how McAllister knew the list matters and other important stuff, but to just say "oh well he's captured so it doesn't matter anymore" is bogus, total BS, that doesn't fly with me and to suggest otherwise and say "oh that's not the role of this show to talk about that " is just a built in lazy cop out.
I'll give a more detailed commentary about the episode later but let me say a couple things real quick
1) I think the season 3 finale ending for Red John was about equal in quality had the show decided to end the RJ arc, not better than this, not worse than it.
2) Here is a really good article that describes my problems with the writing the past couple years. Recommend all read, very well written
3) I can live with McCallister being RJ; he was not a guy most of us took seriously as a suspect(nobody after the season 5 finale had him as their top suspect NOBODY). And we got to see him from the very beginning. I can accept McAllister as an RJ.
So that's it, that's really it. 6 years and everything it built up, gone just like that. There were tons and tons of flaws with this episode( it was no where near as well written or structured as other episodes) but I can live with it for two things 1) McAllister was a satisfactory Red John choice. Nobody ever took him seriously as a suspect We never knew anything about him until this year but we all saw him a the very beginning(and the second episode, not the pilot which is a good set up) and got to see some of him this year and see how he can be an innocent looking yet clever figure. 2) The pigeon trick was well done, well orchestrated, it built off information from previous episodes, and you knew Jane saw everything the whole way. Everything. It took that, RJ's greatest superstition to cause him to lose after 6 years. I respect that piece of writing. Overall, there were tons of flaws with this episode, we didn't really get anything answered, but I can live with McAllister being Red John and Jane's deft work to uncover him and that's what matters.
Whatever you or anybody thinks of this series or the episode coming up isn't really the point here; this shows deserves all the ridicule it gets for leaking the biggest episode its fans have been waiting 6 years for with many like me finding out RJ's faith in the most unsuspenseful way possible. What a disgrace. This would never happen for any respectable TV show, it's just pathetic that the writers and producers would let the most important show of the series get leaked. I can't emphasize what an embarrasement this is, especially when you consider the debacle with lettting the promo for the 7th episode loaded with spoilers appear before the 6th episode appeared a couple weeks ago. I honestly cant fathom how something like this happens and it really is a credibility killer; why should I put my faith in these same producers for coming episodes when they let the most important episode in the series get leaked? It really is incredibly unfortunate, diehard fans incredibly invested in this show waited SIX WHOLE YEARS only for Red Johns identity in this episode to be leaked. Just disgraceful, just pathetic.
Can someone tell me how in the world the episode got leaked? I mean seriously, what a disgrace. This past month, what fans have been waiting for 6 years for now has been handedly so horribly. First, a major major episode has to get pushed back a week while at the same time the promo at the end has all the spoilers from that episode that viewers who hadn't seen the sixth episode saw. That's bad enough; now this? Who in the world leaked this episode? More importantly HOW was it leaked? I just can't get over what a disgrace that is? I agree the episode was kind of lame, but that's not the point. Just can't believe the biggest episode of the series, what this series is all about, the big episode we all have waited and EARNED got leaked. So embarrassing for everybody working for the mentalist.
How does the promo possibly suggest that that is Thomas McCallister and not Gale Bertram? I find it fascinating just how much and to what extremes people'd are going to assume there is some huge conspiracy by the writers.
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