And to that point you can see how the storyline is progressing there is no way the RJ mystery progresses more than 2 months from here on out. We're in a situation were RJ is 1/6 people Jane sees frequently, RJ knows, Jane's team on the CBI knows and the rest of the CBI knows about the progress he's making(and we'll probably find alot more out about them in coming weeks with Bertram and Kirkland). This is going to end sooner than later, the question now is what's going to be the body count and end result. What was interesting about that RJ scene with Lisbon is he doesn't necessairly seem enamored with the idea of killing her or capturing her. The fact he took her and just taunted her says alot. This really is just a pure game to him, torturing everyone involved, evoking fear. That's all he wants to do to Jane, even with Jane being closer than he ever has and now having some power, RJ is still sticking to his course and not acting out just yet. He doesn't have an interest in killing those close to Jane, not yet at least even though he knows he's in more trouble than ever.
The end scene with RJ painting Lisbon's face you could tell was something the show spent alot of time carefully thinking about and coming to and it was fantastic. I don't think the main pt of this was to suggest RJ could kill lisbon there or that there is going to be some kind of chase for her next week. After all there is a case of the week next week that was the focus of the promo and that would never in a million years happen if Lisbon were missing. But the message it sends, the fear it evokes in Jane and how it will rattle Lisbon and the entire CBI team is just phenomenal. We saw Jane this whole episode not knowing what to do next; now no one really knows what to do next and we have no idea as an audience what to expect. Everything you want out of an opener you got here and it turns out Bruno is serious about wrapping up this storyline.
I've been critical of some of the storywriting in the past, I wasn't huge on the finale last year, but let me give credit here this was a fantastic opener. Even the non RJ storyline with those two murders was above the usual case of the week we usually see. But as for the RJ storyline itself: wow. I'm stunned. I really thought Partridge was the clear RJ favorite; i never really even considered anybody besides Partridge seriously until now. Really really surprising, just changed everything I had spent the summer expecting and thinking about. The fact that it looks like he was working for RJ(he wouldn't have known the tyger tyger lyric otherwise) adds to the intrigue. I wish we got to know more about him and maybe we will a little in coming weeks but this puts the show in a new unpredictable direction.
@Feint: Do you have a link to that info, especially about info following that episode? So there it is, the one card left they haven't played which is probably the biggest part of the storyline left: RJ going after Lisbon. Them featuring it so directly in the promo tells me a) RJ won't actually kill Lisbon, based off show's history zero chance of that happening. Them hinting at something then it coming up, no chance. b) I would doubt if RJ ever possesses Lisbon. c) Wouldn't be surprised if this is all a set up and Lisbon ends up being fine. Still, there are going to be tricks here we can't predict right now. Still have a feeling Van Pelt and Rigsby leaving is directly tied to the RJ storyline and that there are surprises about characters we dont see. I believe more now than ever they aren't going to drag this plot out in a tricky way(ie show RJ's face this year but not capture him), I finally now think the show wants to move on.
The questions I have from this new news: does this mean a) Rigsby and Van Pelt go happily off into the sunset b) Is one or both of them killed off c) does this have to do with Red John and his story? All I can say is I certainly hope they avoid this cliche all is happy ending and how they set up episodes in advance. I hope there is more controversy between the two. And I'm sorry but I just don't agree with this idea of how Bruno's quote must mean Lisbon either arrests Jane or prevents him from killing RJ. Just sounds like Lisbon fanatics trying to envision a scenario where she shows her power and wins. I'm the most look into what the producers say type of guy, but there's nothing from that quote that any way definitely says this Jane Lisbon RJ conflict will end in such an extreme way and in Lisbon exerting herself. I'm still not sold we get the happy ending in Jane's terms for the RJ saga, but nothing Bruno said hinted we wouldn't, that's a huge stretch to me.
@Feint: I think those points you are listing is what everyone wants to see including me. In reality, I bet you get no more than 3-4/16 of what you listed on the show. This show raises lots of questions for us but they dont care about leaving many unanswered. You just have to be willing to prioritize what is most important and look at the bigger picture to be satisfied by the end. I would be shocked if we get more info on Wainwright, Frye, Harker, Minelli, Schultz, or Darcy. The only one w any expectation at all for me is Tanner. a) Its really hard to get characters back on due to contracts and schedules and what not b) thats not the shows MO. Btw, the reason why Reede Smith and McAllister are on the list is probably because those were the ones they were able to get a contract to come back on. They've brought back Minelli and LaRoche and others when possible, its just not feasible usually though so I would warn you to temper your expectations.
That I definitely don't want. If your serious about ending the RJ saga early and not just oh we'll reveal his identity mid season but the chase wont end until the end(which is possible still but the spoilers aren't making it seem like thats the aim) then you need to have a clear purpose. Something as vague as "showing Jane post RJ and its traumatic effects" or just having the usual case of the week trying to show different sides of Jane won't cut it. a) that would be an awful way to end the series b) that's not getting you a 7th season(the only thing that matters rating wise btw is 18-49 dem in the US, nothing else and thats been declining for past few yrs to the pt TM was borderline for renewal) There has to be a specific goal, a specific purpose of the new women besides just trying to show Jane the value of what he does or being a lover. I don't know how they plan on pulling that off, but if your going the post RJ life route for 10+ episodes you need something specific
I could see what @rationalgal was saying come to frution here; we get a happy RJ ending, he dies Jane gets what he wants etc but Jane is so damaged throughout the process beyond anything we realize even now that clearly the question has to be asked "was it worth it?" even though we know Jane's answer. Maybe that's what the show is trying to show by solving this RJ sequel early, the idea that maybe it wasn't working and that there is darkness(and beyond oh he just is emotionally damaged, isolated and walled up like we know) to what we all think is autmoatically infinite lightness from the RJ capture. While I'd prefer the RJ sequel to playo ut the whole year up until the finale, I don't think that's whats going to happen and that isn't a terrible alternate. What I don't want is this new women coming in as a distraction and even though I'm not pro Jane and Lisbon relationship I think it would be stupid to have some new lady come in and go for Jane.
don't really care for the typical case of the week episodes like they once did. Regardless though, I hope I'm wrong I just never even considered the idea maybe there laying things out in season 6 for 7, I always assumed season 6 was the last ride. I too also as much as I hate to admit think the Mobey Dick ending is best for the show, it's never been about everything going happily, it's been about sacrifice, how the obsession over 1 man has consumed Patrick's life, the changes and hardships numerous characters have gone over the years(its not a coincidence when O'Laughlin's contract ran out they decided to have him go via the way of being an RJ mole) it just wouldn't fit the show to have a perfect ending without sacrifice. I kind of always thought that Mobey Dick reference that one suspect made in season 1 to Jane in the interrogation was a foreshadow and preview of things to come and that the writers were talking directly about the RJ chase indirectly. For the record though, I do think we get a happy ending on the RJ chase for better or worse.
@Entwife: Do you have a link by any chance to that quote about the plan being to kill off RJ and setting up a new 36 or so episodes of post RJ Jane? That's an interesting idea in theory. But I'll be honest, I've basically written off the idea of a season 7 completely, hasn't even crossed my mind, Bruno said a year ago "we have 2 seasons or so left" and has hinted this year we may indeed be in for it all. that's usually the exact opposite mentality you see from writers(at least on the record), usually you get overconfidence and the usual "we have faith and strongly believe we'll be back" even when there borderline at best(Harry's Law a few years ago is a great example of this). I really have hard time seeing how they can drag out a post RJ life for 36 episodes, keep in mind ratings have declined significantly the past few years and they've used RJ the way they have as a ratings saver. Take him out and I think the ratings have showed people don't really care for the typical case of the week episodes like they once did.
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