least think there is a reasonable possibility RJ a) isn't on the list b) is multiple people(unlikely) or has multiple people who are really really close with him like to the pt of being involved in his own killings(possible) c) while the list might have 1 of the 6 there's way more to this story than we would ever imagine. Or perhaps a combination of these 3. This just seems too easy right now, seems like we're getting lulled to sleep into trying to overanalyze all these characters and their moves by the show trying to make them look suspicious. Seems all like a trap. I have a hard time buying the show would openly make someone look so suspicious and try to set them up as RJ one week only to reveal him as RJ himself 6 weeks later. There's alot more here but really there's only 5 episodes left until we get the infamous "Red John" episode. I really don't want to think RJ is Stiles, but that seems likes where things might be pointing although that could change in the blink of an eye.
because Lisbon was spooked and I don't think we'll see her going out of her place again trying to do too much. That's a good thing. 3) the biggest information from this episode was probably how well versed it is within the CBI and FBI this info there keeping from Patrick is. Bruno has alluded there to being corruption to the CBI with regards to RJ this year, our friend RJ has a long standing warning to JAne about his friend in the FBI to Jane, there is something major that's going to happen with this that'll be the key to breaking things open. That I can almost gurantee. 4)I sure to god hope this info from the psychic is key info in the case after years of far better information being worth little to nothing. So many holes in it(why in the world would RJ ever say anything meaningful to her to begin with?). I hope they don't run with this idea that this candidate whistled as an actual clue but the promo suggested they might. 5) I'm the most anti-conspiracist there is but I now can at least buy the idea that RJ is a) not on the list b) is a combination of them c) there is much much more to this story than just the list in ways we could never imagine. Just seems like there lulling us into this trap of trying to scrutinize all these characters so closely. Whenever they try to lull us into an idea, it always is something else. Be warned.
@mimi: 1) Yes, I heard the same thing about RJ's ID being revealed in the 8th episode(which is named after RJ), I definitely heard it'd be revealed in Nov. Whether or not that means that's the end to the story I doubt it, difference between revealing, capturing and of course ending itself. 2) They're there basically because of contracts. Who can you bring back? Couldn't get back Mashburn or whomever, so you go with whom you can. They obviously wanted a few surprising candidates and those were two they could get a contract with. The only major takeaways I could make from this episode are 1) This interaction between RJ list characters and the team is wildly awkward. You know it'll be over soon but its painfully weird to the point that I'm wondering how smoothly these future meeting RJ list characters go if there in the same manner, especially with more suspicious candidates like Kirkland or Stiles. 2) Even though it wasn't referenced specifically, RJ's message to Lisbon and Jane worked, I don't think we'll see her step out of her boundary like that again.
I just have a really hard time believing the show would go through this much to try to make one of these 4 suspicious, and then come back 6 episodes later revealing RJ as one of these 4 without at the bare minimum some serious strings attached(which is still possible). Just seems very off. I like the role of the side characters here, Rigsby, Cho, Van Pelt, they basically were thrown to the side last season so its good to see them getting more time. The one thing I don't get is why in the world would RJ ever tell anything meaningful to Sophie Miller in that session, especially if this was all to get access to Jane? a) we still don't know exactly how he got through Miller to get that info about Jane's memory b) Jane and Lisbon even said RJ would never give anything truthful or meaningful to her even if he thought he'd get rid of the file? If this is a major breakthrough in the RJ plot, that would be a letdown after all the years of much more potentially powerful breakthroughs failing, this little meaningless thing working would be foolish
While it was certainly interesting, this was a bizarre episode on a variety of levels. I'm not so sure I'm huge on this idea of surrounding Jane and Lisbon around the characters on the list to this degree in coming weeks, it just got too weird. Just seemed like the show tried force-feeding those 4 characters on the list as suspicious potential RJ characters way too hard. Literally every time they got featured it was to try to show them as sneaky RJ esque potential characters. I get that, but it just felt a bit over top and gave the show too strange a vibe. But by the show force feeding us the idea that 1 of these 4 could be RJ, I've really started to think that a) RJ is Brett Stiles(has to be the new favorite even though its so obvious) b) RJ isn't someone on the list or is basically multiple people. I think either one of b would be a total copout/cheat but anytime the show has tried showing its hand so hard one way to try to trick us for 5+years its never been what it seems like.
fun but completely false theory grounded in zero reality i'll just throw out there anyway: Brett Partridge didn't actually die, he just faked it and had a friend knockout lisbon for him to draw the smiley face on because he's actually red john. Or maybe he's a red john friend who just fools Lisbon completely and her grand plan of tracking everybody. What an elaborate set up that would be, now the fact that the title of the interview they had with bruno says they've elimiated partridge and it's a list of 6 basically kills whatever fun that theory was but I just thought that would be a awesome twist to the story.
killing those close to Jane, he'd just rather torture everybody involved with his mind games. The fact he went out of his way to get Lisbon and just mentally torture her as oppose to do anything like capture her or do something that would result in direct action from Jane is telling. It's true that maybe later on we could see him come after Lisbon, this time with more force and the intention to do more harm, but that's a really powerful message he sent and it's great writing by those in charge. I have a feeling a bunch of episodes are going to be like this in coming weeks; these first 2 months are going to have the type of action we've been waiting 6 years for.
And to that point you can see how the storyline is progressing there is no way the RJ mystery progresses more than 2 months from here on out. We're in a situation were RJ is 1/6 people Jane sees frequently, RJ knows, Jane's team on the CBI knows and the rest of the CBI knows about the progress he's making(and we'll probably find alot more out about them in coming weeks with Bertram and Kirkland). This is going to end sooner than later, the question now is what's going to be the body count and end result. What was interesting about that RJ scene with Lisbon is he doesn't necessairly seem enamored with the idea of killing her or capturing her. The fact he took her and just taunted her says alot. This really is just a pure game to him, torturing everyone involved, evoking fear. That's all he wants to do to Jane, even with Jane being closer than he ever has and now having some power, RJ is still sticking to his course and not acting out just yet. He doesn't have an interest in killing those close to Jane, not yet at least even though he knows he's in more trouble than ever.
The end scene with RJ painting Lisbon's face you could tell was something the show spent alot of time carefully thinking about and coming to and it was fantastic. I don't think the main pt of this was to suggest RJ could kill lisbon there or that there is going to be some kind of chase for her next week. After all there is a case of the week next week that was the focus of the promo and that would never in a million years happen if Lisbon were missing. But the message it sends, the fear it evokes in Jane and how it will rattle Lisbon and the entire CBI team is just phenomenal. We saw Jane this whole episode not knowing what to do next; now no one really knows what to do next and we have no idea as an audience what to expect. Everything you want out of an opener you got here and it turns out Bruno is serious about wrapping up this storyline.
I've been critical of some of the storywriting in the past, I wasn't huge on the finale last year, but let me give credit here this was a fantastic opener. Even the non RJ storyline with those two murders was above the usual case of the week we usually see. But as for the RJ storyline itself: wow. I'm stunned. I really thought Partridge was the clear RJ favorite; i never really even considered anybody besides Partridge seriously until now. Really really surprising, just changed everything I had spent the summer expecting and thinking about. The fact that it looks like he was working for RJ(he wouldn't have known the tyger tyger lyric otherwise) adds to the intrigue. I wish we got to know more about him and maybe we will a little in coming weeks but this puts the show in a new unpredictable direction.
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