The conflict in Emily's relationship with Daniel lies in the fact that he is genuinely a good guy. If Daniel goes down the same road his parents took, then Emily will no longer feel guilty about using him. It just makes her "master plan" that much easier to execute.
I'll wait until the next episode to form an opinion on Daniel. He could have ulterior motives for standing by his father.
Zoran: "Chuck did not want Blair to go with Jack and sleeps to him in order to he get back hotel. That's the point……Blair must realize that she do not have to submit to her boyfriends (Chuck) that they would like her. Blair should not try to be what she is not, but should show what she is and she will have immense love of Chuck."
Would Chuck have been happy at the time to have Blair only and not the hotel? Would he not have resented her a little for not getting him his hotel back? Prior to that incident, he was so wound up about being a disappointment to his deceased father.
Marisa1983: "Blair still hasn't understood that Chuck expected her to refuse to sleep with Jack for the hotel…it's her own fault she failed the test."
What was he testing her for? If it was her love for Chuck, she obviously passed. Was it that she didn't tell him her plan? I don't recall him faulting Blair for that. He said outright they couldn't work together because Jack would see right through it.
I apologize for sounding interrogative. I'm just trying to understand your POVs.
I'm surprised Emily never considered the possibility that Charlotte may be her half-sister. It made sense considering Charlotte's age and the timing of Victoria and David's affair.
I'm relieved that the writers decided to begin the "paternity" storyline now and not 2-3 seasons later when they need "new" storylines. I just hope they explain specifically why Victoria favors Daniel over Charlotte. Why would she shun the child whose father she loved and dote on the child whose father she hates?
1) Though I was against the Nolan/Tyler hookup from the start, I think Emily should've confronted Nolan about the sex tape before using it to expose Tyler to Conrad.
2) "He wants her to get in touch with her emotions and live the life her father wanted for her." Ehh....I don't find that too convincing. What has Nolan been doing for the past 10 episodes?
Imagine you're on a date with your girlfriend. Then some woman you've met maybe once or twice comes up to you. She starts berating you because you don't want to dump your girlfriend and date that woman's sister/BFF/second cousin/whatever. And then your girlfriend walks away pissed off at you, even though you know you weren't two-timing or leading anyone on. That confrontation wouldn't bother you at all?
I too hope we're watching the same show. "…the girl he has always loved"? As far as Declan knows, Jack just met Emily.
2) Absolutely. Don't accept an invite to your rich girlfriend's family home if you're gonna show up with a chip on your shoulder.
3) Just nauseated. Not because of the gay/bi factor, but because Tyler is certifiably insane and I hate to see Nolan make himself vulnerable to such a psychopath. Hopefully, it won't last long and Nolan walks away unscathed this time.
5) Undecided. We need more information. Why did Victoria marry Conrad if she didn't love him? How and when did she get involved with David?
To posters saying Emily's treatment of Nolan will "bite her in the ass":
Nolan is not doing any of this for Emily/Amanda. He's doing it for David Clarke. He'll continue to be part of the takedowns no matter what Emily says or does. Furthermore, if he ever did anything bad to Emily, he would be breaking his promise to David.
Jordan: "Was it really necessary to expose the secrets of all of the psychiatrist's patients, just to frame Lydia?"
Exposing the private sessions was to get back at Dr. Banks. It was after Lydia threatened to take back the house and dig into Emily's past that Emily decided to pin the incident on her.
I think Emily will feel some remorse for Lydia's death. However, it's way too soon in the series for Emily to start reflecting on all of her actions. That's something that can be explored in future seasons. For her to do so at this point would just make her look indecisive.
I agree with Leigh. There were a lot of ways this plan could have backfired.
Ultimately, it was Frank who saved Emily's hide in this episode. Lydia arrived to her apartment before Nolan did. If Frank hadn't been there, she would have seen the fax and realize who Emily really was.
I'm also concerned for Nolan. He can prove that Frank killed Lydia of course, but he would have to explain WHY he was spying on Emily, WHY he simply didn't ask Lydia for the camera back, WHY he had to physically retrieve the camera himself, etc. It won't tie him to Lydia's murder but it'll definitely make him look suspicious.
One final note, I'm a tad disappointed that Lydia's death turned out to be murder instead of a suicide, being that the title of the episode is "Guilt." An actual suicide would have been a much more interesting storyline.
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Revenge Round Table: "Penance"
JustMe was talking about Faux-Amanda, not the real one.
Revenge Review: Absolute Catastrophe
Defensive much? Most people here love Daniel.
Revenge Review: Absolute Catastrophe
I'll wait until the next episode to form an opinion on Daniel. He could have ulterior motives for standing by his father.
Gossip Girl Round Table: "Despicable B"
Would Chuck have been happy at the time to have Blair only and not the hotel? Would he not have resented her a little for not getting him his hotel back? Prior to that incident, he was so wound up about being a disappointment to his deceased father.
Marisa1983: "Blair still hasn't understood that Chuck expected her to refuse to sleep with Jack for the hotel…it's her own fault she failed the test."
What was he testing her for? If it was her love for Chuck, she obviously passed. Was it that she didn't tell him her plan? I don't recall him faulting Blair for that. He said outright they couldn't work together because Jack would see right through it.
I apologize for sounding interrogative. I'm just trying to understand your POVs.
Revenge Review: You Can't Save Them Both
Nolan's actions say otherwise. No matter what he says to Emily, there's a part of him that wants justice for David Clarke too.
Revenge Review: You Can't Save Them Both
Are you saying Emily should give up on her schemes or continue?
Apparently, Nolan is also working for Takeda. I wouldn't exactly say they have competing interests.
Revenge Review: Up In Flames
I'm relieved that the writers decided to begin the "paternity" storyline now and not 2-3 seasons later when they need "new" storylines. I just hope they explain specifically why Victoria favors Daniel over Charlotte. Why would she shun the child whose father she loved and dote on the child whose father she hates?
Revenge Review: A Ticking Bomb
1) Though I was against the Nolan/Tyler hookup from the start, I think Emily should've confronted Nolan about the sex tape before using it to expose Tyler to Conrad.
2) "He wants her to get in touch with her emotions and live the life her father wanted for her." Ehh....I don't find that too convincing. What has Nolan been doing for the past 10 episodes?
Revenge Review: Inside the Viper's Nest
I understand the show is called "Revenge" but Emily can't simply go after everyone who crosses her.
Emily has to stay focused on her master plan. Faux-manda is safe as long as she doesn't interfere with Emily's plots.
Revenge Round Table: "Charade"
Imagine you're on a date with your girlfriend. Then some woman you've met maybe once or twice comes up to you. She starts berating you because you don't want to dump your girlfriend and date that woman's sister/BFF/second cousin/whatever. And then your girlfriend walks away pissed off at you, even though you know you weren't two-timing or leading anyone on. That confrontation wouldn't bother you at all?
I too hope we're watching the same show. "…the girl he has always loved"? As far as Declan knows, Jack just met Emily.
Revenge Round Table: "Charade"
3) Just nauseated. Not because of the gay/bi factor, but because Tyler is certifiably insane and I hate to see Nolan make himself vulnerable to such a psychopath. Hopefully, it won't last long and Nolan walks away unscathed this time.
5) Undecided. We need more information. Why did Victoria marry Conrad if she didn't love him? How and when did she get involved with David?
Revenge Review: The Lines Begin to Blur
Nolan is not doing any of this for Emily/Amanda. He's doing it for David Clarke. He'll continue to be part of the takedowns no matter what Emily says or does. Furthermore, if he ever did anything bad to Emily, he would be breaking his promise to David.
Revenge Review: The Power of Guilt
Exposing the private sessions was to get back at Dr. Banks. It was after Lydia threatened to take back the house and dig into Emily's past that Emily decided to pin the incident on her.
I think Emily will feel some remorse for Lydia's death. However, it's way too soon in the series for Emily to start reflecting on all of her actions. That's something that can be explored in future seasons. For her to do so at this point would just make her look indecisive.
Revenge Round Table: "Guilt"
Ultimately, it was Frank who saved Emily's hide in this episode. Lydia arrived to her apartment before Nolan did. If Frank hadn't been there, she would have seen the fax and realize who Emily really was.
I'm also concerned for Nolan. He can prove that Frank killed Lydia of course, but he would have to explain WHY he was spying on Emily, WHY he simply didn't ask Lydia for the camera back, WHY he had to physically retrieve the camera himself, etc. It won't tie him to Lydia's murder but it'll definitely make him look suspicious.
One final note, I'm a tad disappointed that Lydia's death turned out to be murder instead of a suicide, being that the title of the episode is "Guilt." An actual suicide would have been a much more interesting storyline.