Blu

Not surprised. I never thought it would last this long. I watched faithfully and kicked myself for it every time when I wasn't already busy yelling at the tv and throwing the remote. The Following always felt like a miniseries that somehow ended up being extended repeatedly. Not so much that can be done without coming across redundant. Hope the best for the actors.

Blu

This didn't feel like the penultimate season finale episode. I don't even know what to expect for the season finale. And not in an OMG what's going to happen next way, but a...let me read the last few reviews because what even was the main plot point of this season? I mean, I get it, take down Command Yada yada, but it felt like a season of one offs outside of the bring back Olivia Pope bit. Susan Ross is like my favorite. She's so precious and she's a do-gooder and it's just refreshing. I find her so refreshing. I love her. She's been a highlight of the season. I didn't mind the rape storyline. It's serious issue and good on them for addressing it. I felt it wasn't given enough service though. It wasn't fleshed out as much as it should have been because it was fighting for screentime with Russell being tortured and Mellie. Then it was like they remembered it was an issue so they wrapped it up in the last two minutes with a nice little bow, when it's an issue that's so much more complex than that. Especially in the military. Russell and Jakes scene was probably the most entertaining for me. I loved watching them share their similar stories and mock rowan. The shared distaste expressed over what rowan does to his daughter was interesting. That entire exchange was twisted and amusing. Although I about lost it when Jake complimented Russell and told him he was good. If he was good you'd have been dead after being stabbed a hundred times. If he was good he wouldn't have missed all the major arteries. Like, sorry I'm not convinced that Russell is the cream of the crop, don't say that I can't take y'all seriously. Men profess their love to Olivia and she never knows how to respond to it. How the hell did baby face bright eyes b613 Jr get the jump on Huck? Huck is my guy but he's been slipping on his duties for a while now. I knew that kid was shady, mainly because he so often plays weird or shady. I don't really care about Mellie and foxtail and rowan. I don't know what this is all about but I'm not interested enough to be on th e edge of my seat. Cyrus cracked me up with his "put her back" like Susan brought home a lost puppy or a baby doll. Or stole a candy bar and now her dad is forcing her to return it. Cyrus "I'm too old for this ish and these bad ass children I work with Beene"

Blu

Ugh the Quinn thing. I was so glad when Charlie said she wasn't even part of it long enough to have the dental plan (which must suck after what Huck did to her) because she's not on b613 level at all. She only killed one person and she did it by accident. Seriously she's still just the coffee girl who occasionally hacks and now dresses from Hot Topic instead of Banana Republic. Which is fine. I like her better now than I used to, but anytime they imply she's all badass b613 I just roll my eyes and snort.

Blu

Darn, here i thought the torture, murder, police brutality, rape, murder, terrorism, violence against women, murder,and being nearly sold into slavery was some of the things one could gripe about. Did I mention murder or no? Look, the devil likes to chill with a bowl of Popcorn and a fine wine on Thursday nights too. Even he likes to be entertained.

Blu

Good for her. She's a young actress and she's been on this hit show for 6 years. Surely she wants to do other things, and even though th e show is said to only last another season or so, I understand not wanting to be tied down any longer. I've watched the show from the beginning and I still enjoy it but I'd be lying if I said it should go on for another three or four years. Honestly this show probably should have ended at least a season ago. I say that to say as a Yong actress I understand wanting to venture out and do more. So i wish her luck, in trying to broaden her horizons and take on new and different roles. I understand why McQueen an twd out too, especially given the nature of his rolw. I definitely understand Trevino pursuing new roles because he's been underused for seasons. I never realized he was still considered a series regular since they haven't treated him like it since the Mikaelsons ran rampant on tvd. It's a show with a large cast and a revolving door of characters. Some characters have been underutilized for a while. Clearly they won't have a problem compensating for some absences. I always felt like tvd was meant to be more about the Salvatore brothers, so as long as they remain it'll survive just fine. They've done a great job of developing and fleshing out both Caroline and Bonnie more so either of them could easily carry the show out being the female lead. I would hope it was Bonnie because up until this season she's always received the short end if the stick and been limited as a character despite the fact that kat g has serious range, but I expect the show to go the Caroline route, because that's what they do. I'm happy for the actress. I don't find this shocking or devastating at all. Good for her.

Blu

Unapologetic Tom Keen fan. I've loved him from the beginning to be honest, but the second he took those glasses off and literally kicked some ass, I was an instant diehard Tom Keen fan because his character finally got some more depth. And Ryan Eggold is incredible. I mean when you start watching a show like this with a seasoned actor like James Spader, your expectations for everyone else are pretty low, but Ryan Eggold has the chops. He impresses the hell out of me and holds his own with this role. As for him and Liv working through their issues? I don't know if they ever will but yeah, put me down for that too. I do root for them. I never for a single second doubted that he truly loved her. Now..he's just confirming it. Liz is his only person. This episode pretty much solidified that. Plus they have great chemistry. I love when they have scenes together.

Blu

Thank you for at least understanding my point and acknowledging that the show does in fact retconn to its detriment at times in order to further a plot at that moment.
It happens frequently. Cyrus, Mellie, Fitz, Olivia, individually and how they relate to each other.

Blu

I feel that some fans are unnecessarily rude. I pay attention to it all and interpret it as I see it. That is how consumption of entertainment works. Is it not? If we all watched something and had the exact same thoughts from it, what in bloody hell would we discuss? Why discuss at all. That's your interpretation of the Mellie and Olitz situation and that's fine. That's how you see it. I'm not dismissing your opinion or diminishing your perception of something by saying that you aren't paying attention to what's in front of you and that you're only seeing what you want to see. I guarantee you if that were really the case I'd never actually have constructive criticism for the show because I'd see it as perfect and flawless. I feel like some Hardcore shippers who are so consumed with the pairing they love that that they ignore other aspects of the show entirely if it doesn't fit to their ship are irritating to discuss the show with when they are incapable of attempting to be impartial when discussing aspects of the show but alas I still try to comment and be respectful. Meet me halfway next time.

Blu

Thanks. Although the typos when one types on a cell phone are the absolute worst. I know a lot of people can't stand Jake. Aside from the fact that I have always had a soft spot for Scott Foley, I've always liked the genuine friendship between Olivia and Jake. One of the things I truly missed most about season 1 was Olivia's friendship with Stephen. He was her best friend. He was the one who knew her best out of the gladiators. Their relationship felt equal, whereas their relationship with the others felt like the two of them looking after the kids. When he left, it was so obvious that Olivia didn't have any other person there that could be just her friend too. So they tried to make up for it with Harrison and Huck, but they couldn't so but so much with Huck because he's Huck, damaged, socially challenged, sociopathic tendencies and what not. He does guard dog well. He's observant. He calls her out when he needs too, and honestly I love their relationship too, but he's not as reliable for heart to hearts. Harrison stepped up as well, and did great from the being second in command from the office perspective but he didn't have the same intimacy with Olivia as Stephen. So enter Jake with this convuluted spy stuff. Whether all that surrounding him was really necessary is up for debate, but Jake, for me is the closest she's had to the friendship she has with Stephen because she won't let anyone in, and I won't even go into the issue she has with forming bonds with other females, because Abby and Quinn try from their end, but she just doesn't allow herself to be as open and vulnerable with them as she was with Stephen or even how she is with Jake. In some ways Olivia and Jake remind me of the complicated relationship between the Keens on The Blacklist. I think Jake has taken to Olivia as his family and his beacon regardless of if they're sleeping together or not. He's fixated and attached, and in some ways it's like how Huck relies on his connection to her to sustain him. The spy boys are seriously screwed up. I do think Jake gets the brunt of ire, because most of the time he comes across some normal and we'll adjusted compared to a Huck or a Charlie thst suddenly he's held to different standards. Which to me, isn't fair. But whatever. I love that Jake gives us the opportunity to see Olivia in a more vulnerable state, in a normal, not invincible, everyday woman state. Whether it's her dealing with her issues with Fitz or work or her father. I've enjoyed Olake because of their actual friendship. Twisted as it is. Whether they are together or not in another sense doesn't faze me either way, but until they do what I've wanted them to do, which is give her a nice bond with a female in which she gives as much as she gets (they're doing a little better on the Abby front), Jake is it. He's her bestie. Meredith Grey and Christina Yang twisted sisters dancing and drinking together bestie. That's why he always serves a purpose to me. The problem is writing around that particular purpose he serves without beating the B613 horse. He needs a job. Make him part of OPA now, or give him an outside job. Maybe make him a P.I who occasionally crosses her path in the field since he does that type of work anyway. Ironically Jake is the male version of a Mary Sue. They don't know what to do with him when he isn't serving a purpose for the female lead. It's kind of amusing seeing the gender role reversal but I like Jake. They could work something out for him, and maybe they're already addressing it, so who knows.

Blu

Huh. I'm still not sure about that but assuming you're right, fair enough. Although my annoyance with the retconning mellie and fitz marriage pre Olivia when its convenient for the current story still stands. Right now we're back to having to believe that his never considering giving the ring to Mellie because it didn't feel right was because of their not as solid love, which contradicts the head over heels in love with Mellie Fitz of the Mellie flashbacks, which contradicts with the it was an arranged sort of marriage that was a business deal and partnership which contradicts the Mellie and Fitz being actual friends. I don't quite have the time to rewatch the first season.