I posed your idea to a fellow blogger on Tumblr, and she thinks it's a pretty interesting idea, too. I did credit you for it.
I definitely see the sense of your argument that there is no intent to phase Lisbon out. It sounds very like the way TM would do things. Never just tell us, but show us in some way if we're just clever enough to catch it and make the connection(s). Of course, they've had us making connections all along until we've driven ourselves crazy. But that was about RJ which was growing of its own volition, poorly supervised.
Or Jisbon, which had to bend to the will they/ won't they formula and the required obstacles for it. But Jisbon is much simpler and your solution actually makes sense.
Getting rid of Lisbon absolutely does not make sense, even though the apparent long scarcity of seeing her and especially Jane and her, coupled with the general unreliability of TM's "clues," is enough to easily shake my anxious little soul to its foundations. And it doesn't mean it won't happen. But I can see your reasoning it is not happening and they may have tried to telegraph it.
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Since Heller stated that Fischer would be a "very complicating factor" in Jane and Lisbon's relationship, and I have never thought that meant romantic but instead meant professional, your first described scenario fits the best, I think. It could be a continuation of the FBI's mission to acquire their asset-- Jane. Even if it's not intentional, the functional result is the same. And Fischer, as the team leader, has the power and has certainly shown no ethical or moral qualms about using it in any devious way to achieve her ends. Acquiring Jane and losing Lisbon could be quite a coup in one way of thinking, and help her move through the ranks and up the bureaucracy of the FBI. Good career move, on its face. If this is the plot, it would be very interesting and worthy of watching indeed. Thanks for posting it!
Comment modified at March 07, 2014 14:25
I have to allow that Heller and the writers are possibly just doing a very good job of "pulling Jane and Lisbon apart in order to put them back together again," as Heller said he would. Long and excruciating, but very good if that's the object and nobody is leaving or going anywhere. My Fischer comments stand.
Sorry. My comments were strictly about the characters and how I see their effects on one another and how I feel about that. I wouldn't begrudge any that needed to make a career shift. This is about the characters and what it does to the show as I experience it, not the actors per se. If Tunney is leaving on her own steam, that's fine. I'll have to eat it. Just like I'll have to eat it if it's not by her own choice. It makes no difference. If Lisbon's gone, she gone and that effect is the same to me regarding the show and characters, either way. I'm talking about the characters and what their presence or absence seems to do to the show. That's all I'm really saying. It has nothing to do with the general viewer, only with my point of view.
Definitely could be off base. Emphasize what, though? Fischer has been the emphasis since MBH. We know what she is, IMO. Others may like her, it's true. I never will. Not if they give her 40 minutes of screen time every week, trying to explain her all the way through a seventh season. I fast forward through her scenes. When Pike comes, I'll have to add his scenes, too. Soon an episode will be ten minutes long for me and I won't know what's going on.
In my opinion, TM will not be TM without Lisbon. It's not possible, no matter what screen time they give to Cho. Without Lisbon, Jane will look shallow and clownish. And I mean LOTS of Lisbon. And I mean as Jane's real partner. And I mean I know enough about Fischer to put me off for a lifetime. I don't want to know anything more about her. I don't need to know anything more about her. My feeling is, get her out of there. This is ridiculous. They're featuring her promo after promo for god's sake with only Lisbon at the phone away from the team at the FBI and some group photograph with all the supposed new team. That's it. And that's supposed to be fine and no one should notice a pattern, and Heller is really doing that so he can throw a boyfriend in for five episodes -- all just to make (probably last minute) Jisbon sweeter? I really do find that hard to buy. But it could be true, I guess.
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Comment modified at March 06, 2014 22:22
Heh, heh, @Just Passing, you even cheered me up with that one! :)
Well, we've had three sneak peeks and a set of promo photos today. Not one scene or snap with Lisbon even in the background. And I'm supposed to think this is normal and okay?
Yes, I just saw the interview and sneak peek, too. I'm glad someone else was getting the same messages from it as I did. It seems that every bit of promo material that's been put out in the last two weeks or so is pointing to Lisbon no longer being a part of the story line. Sorry, but Jane is not a strong enough character without Lisbon to carry the show. I already fast forward through any TM scenes with Fischer, so I miss more and more of what's going on. When they bring Pike in, I won't watch that. What's left? Lisbon making a cameo or lurking silently in the background like a piece of furniture? If that's what they're really doing, I say wrap it up with the sixth because the seventh will just be some run of the mill procedural with a very weird middle-aged loner in an RV as the lead. He'll be either oddly asexual or have serial dalliances with women he neither knows nor loves. Now, won't that be fun to see after the deep, rich bounty that was the Jane and Lisbon relationship? It's beyond sad.
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