My mom was an alcoholic who was subject to black-out rage fits when she was drinking like Deacon. Thankfully she was able to get sober and was sober last year when she passed away suddenly.
So to say that Rayna and Juliette's stories hit a nerve is an understatement. Hayden Panettiere absolutely nailed the ACOA behavior along with the stages of grief. And Charles Esten (Deacon) blew me away as well.
I loved the episode and yet hated it for making me miss my mom so much.. Can't wait for next season.
@Douglas Wolfe, I believe you are correct. The reason they had problems early in the season was that they were in different places and clearly she's catching up.. :)
I just read that Rynn is being added to the game -- Rynn has made quite an impression in her time in Defiance. Now, Bay Area denizens will get the chance to interact with this intriguing outlaw, as she'll be making the transition from show to game and will become an NPC for players to meet and interact with. Look for her to be particularly helpful when it comes to a nasty Hellbug problem players will face.
Sadly, parts of the US are not as progressive as the rest of the world. Specifically, "the bible belt" of the US gets upset for lots of different reasons and it's like navigating a mine field to know what might set them off.. For example the book "Good Christian B!@ches" sold millions of copies, enough in fact that ABC maded a TV show out of it. While the book was fine the bible belt had a fit over the show -- http://www.examiner.com/article/gcb-boycott-of-abc-tv-by-angry-christians
While I agree Sci-Fi shows have a much better chance of flying under the radar, *knowing* that it could end up in the cross-hairs makes the choice to include it at all pretty brave (in my eyes) on the shows part.
That's not to say there isn't some middle ground between my "brave" and your "brave" -- Much like Nolan and Irisa needed to understand the Castithan's view on their ritual, you and I needed to understand how the other viewed the episode.
Thanks for defining "Bullish" -- honestly, nobody is paying me to be bullish, I just have very high hopes for Defiance. SyFy needs to get back to it's roots and if Defiance does well, we may actually see more Sci-Fi on TV.
I'm guessing your not from the U.S.
Allow me to provide a little history. There are large sections of the lower 48 states (known as the bible belt) that take religion in shows very, very, VERY seriously. In the past entire states banned shows like "SOAP" because they had openly gay characters and that was against their religious beliefs.
So, Defiance's willingness to even take on religion this soon is pretty brave in my eyes.
I understand you would rather see them be brave by doing something "dramatically out of the norm" for religion, but it really comes down to making sure we can identify with the characters and their beliefs/culture.
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I should have better clarified that I was admiring the shows bravery in jumping into this topic on the second offering of a brand new series. I'm hoping it's this type of depth that will continue to make the show more rich and keep it around for many more seasons to come.
I'm not sure what your term "bullish" means. I'm sorry if something I wrote seems offensive. Allow me to clarify a bit.
The cleansing ritual was about their religious beliefs that Elah's shame was prevent his entire Liro from entering the after-life. While the ceremony was a reflection of their culture, the underlying reason was about beliefs.
Also, I said "rarely," as you quoted. Babylon 5 and Alien Nation were two shows that came to mind as touching on religion (who can forget G'Kar yelling "Do Not Thump the Book of G'Quan"). But there are many more sci-fi shows decide to go with "let's show you how cool/awesome/scary/etc we can be with special effects" in the first few episodes after the pilot.
Even the Dr. Who episode you mention is in season 7 of the new series and would be season 33 if you counted them all. My comment was very specific to the second episode of a new series.
I should have better clarified that I was admiring the shows bravery in jumping into this topic on the second episode of a brand new series. I'm hopeful it's this type of depth that will keep the shows rating us and around for us to discuss for many seasons to come!
There was a very quick blurb during one of the "making of" that St. Louis 2013 was covered in rock and earth during the terra-forming event and the new city was built on top of that.
While I've never been to St. Louis, it seems reasonable that the landscape could have changed dramatically given that info.
Though, having the building say "1932" or whatever behind the Mayor's speech did kind of contradict that info.... Let's hope they all get on the same page :)
It was the mayor's assistant that was the traitor that is in a coma, the ex-mayor was being told that he was in a coma and with Luke dead, nobody knew the location of something.
@Watchestoomuch -- technically you are correct Stargate Universe came out in Oct 2009 after Syfy switched names in March of 2009. But, SG:U had been announced.
I should have better clarified this is the first show fully conceptualized since switching names. :)
@Serenity, I made a similar connection 1/2 through the show, I didn't circle back around to him becoming Carter becoming Sheriff and Nolan becoming Lawkeeper.. Great catch!
Besides, it worked for 5 seasons on Eureka.. so maybe it will work again.
Drew was introduced in the Season 4 pilot this year. And law enforcement is looking for him because he can turn states evidence on Tho Tonin and stole a bunch of his money. -- Think "DB Cooper" but with more of a southern drawl.
To answer your question, No, the nuclear missiles were not armed. The material they carry is harmless until the missile is armed and detonated correctly.
However, the engine is a different story, if it was nuclear powered (as it appeared to be) then there could be some radioactive materials floating loose in the water.
I have visited many friends in the hospital, depends on the hours. As it was bright day out, I'm guessing it was still during normal hours. Besides, as he is medically trained, you maybe right that he might have a "free pass"
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So to say that Rayna and Juliette's stories hit a nerve is an understatement. Hayden Panettiere absolutely nailed the ACOA behavior along with the stages of grief. And Charles Esten (Deacon) blew me away as well.
I loved the episode and yet hated it for making me miss my mom so much.. Can't wait for next season.
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that's kinda cool
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I can give you an extensive list of shows that don't use cliff hangers and are very popular.
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Sadly, parts of the US are not as progressive as the rest of the world. Specifically, "the bible belt" of the US gets upset for lots of different reasons and it's like navigating a mine field to know what might set them off.. For example the book "Good Christian B!@ches" sold millions of copies, enough in fact that ABC maded a TV show out of it. While the book was fine the bible belt had a fit over the show -- http://www.examiner.com/article/gcb-boycott-of-abc-tv-by-angry-christians
While I agree Sci-Fi shows have a much better chance of flying under the radar, *knowing* that it could end up in the cross-hairs makes the choice to include it at all pretty brave (in my eyes) on the shows part.
Defiance Review: What Do You Believe In?
Defiance Review: What Do You Believe In?
That's not to say there isn't some middle ground between my "brave" and your "brave" -- Much like Nolan and Irisa needed to understand the Castithan's view on their ritual, you and I needed to understand how the other viewed the episode.
Thanks for sharing!
Defiance Review: What Do You Believe In?
Thanks for defining "Bullish" -- honestly, nobody is paying me to be bullish, I just have very high hopes for Defiance. SyFy needs to get back to it's roots and if Defiance does well, we may actually see more Sci-Fi on TV.
I'm guessing your not from the U.S.
Allow me to provide a little history. There are large sections of the lower 48 states (known as the bible belt) that take religion in shows very, very, VERY seriously. In the past entire states banned shows like "SOAP" because they had openly gay characters and that was against their religious beliefs.
So, Defiance's willingness to even take on religion this soon is pretty brave in my eyes.
I understand you would rather see them be brave by doing something "dramatically out of the norm" for religion, but it really comes down to making sure we can identify with the characters and their beliefs/culture.
Defiance Review: What Do You Believe In?
I should have better clarified that I was admiring the shows bravery in jumping into this topic on the second offering of a brand new series. I'm hoping it's this type of depth that will continue to make the show more rich and keep it around for many more seasons to come.
Defiance Review: What Do You Believe In?
I'm not sure what your term "bullish" means. I'm sorry if something I wrote seems offensive. Allow me to clarify a bit.
The cleansing ritual was about their religious beliefs that Elah's shame was prevent his entire Liro from entering the after-life. While the ceremony was a reflection of their culture, the underlying reason was about beliefs.
Also, I said "rarely," as you quoted. Babylon 5 and Alien Nation were two shows that came to mind as touching on religion (who can forget G'Kar yelling "Do Not Thump the Book of G'Quan"). But there are many more sci-fi shows decide to go with "let's show you how cool/awesome/scary/etc we can be with special effects" in the first few episodes after the pilot.
Even the Dr. Who episode you mention is in season 7 of the new series and would be season 33 if you counted them all. My comment was very specific to the second episode of a new series.
I should have better clarified that I was admiring the shows bravery in jumping into this topic on the second episode of a brand new series. I'm hopeful it's this type of depth that will keep the shows rating us and around for us to discuss for many seasons to come!
Defiance Review: New Beginnings
There was a very quick blurb during one of the "making of" that St. Louis 2013 was covered in rock and earth during the terra-forming event and the new city was built on top of that.
While I've never been to St. Louis, it seems reasonable that the landscape could have changed dramatically given that info.
Though, having the building say "1932" or whatever behind the Mayor's speech did kind of contradict that info.... Let's hope they all get on the same page :)
Defiance Review: New Beginnings
It was the mayor's assistant that was the traitor that is in a coma, the ex-mayor was being told that he was in a coma and with Luke dead, nobody knew the location of something.
Defiance Review: New Beginnings
I agree that the driving CGI needed work, thankfully it was such a small part of the episode I was willing to let it go.
Defiance Review: New Beginnings
Defiance Review: New Beginnings
I should have better clarified this is the first show fully conceptualized since switching names. :)
@Serenity, I made a similar connection 1/2 through the show, I didn't circle back around to him becoming Carter becoming Sheriff and Nolan becoming Lawkeeper.. Great catch!
Besides, it worked for 5 seasons on Eureka.. so maybe it will work again.
Defiance Review: New Beginnings
Nolan did have a bit of a "Han Solo" grin didn't he?
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You should have seen the 20 story tall ads that SyFy had on the side of building at Comic-Con in July 2012 was seriously impressive.
I'm really glad to see a new sci-fi show out and about, we've lost too many with Eureka, Sanctuary and Stargate Universe all having ended.
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Drew was introduced in the Season 4 pilot this year. And law enforcement is looking for him because he can turn states evidence on Tho Tonin and stole a bunch of his money. -- Think "DB Cooper" but with more of a southern drawl.
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To answer your question, No, the nuclear missiles were not armed. The material they carry is harmless until the missile is armed and detonated correctly.
However, the engine is a different story, if it was nuclear powered (as it appeared to be) then there could be some radioactive materials floating loose in the water.
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I have visited many friends in the hospital, depends on the hours. As it was bright day out, I'm guessing it was still during normal hours. Besides, as he is medically trained, you maybe right that he might have a "free pass"