I can't believe I'm going to say this, but the crappy writing job since the hiatus is proving M.L. House right. We have had our differences of opinion about this show -- frankly me arguing we have to wait to see the season in its entirety to make a fair assessment. But since Christmas this show has tanked, and this episode was just the latest anchor drawing it down. Samuel was in such a good place as a villain, now he's a jilted lovebird. It is a complete BS storyline that never should have been concocted. It's very disappointing because I still feel the beginning of this season held great promise. But all the shortcomings have come to fruition. It's almost like they have let George Lucas in to write some of this drek -- jumpy storyline, gaping plotholes, no continuity and love stories that are so mundane they make you want to take a spoon to your eyeballs.
Ninefold: there were two kids sitting beside Angela at the funeral, who ostensibly were Nathan's. On the otheer side of them was a lady with black hair wearing a veil. We never got a close shot of her, but I'm guessing she is supposed to be the ex-wife. It wasn't Rena Sofer, who played the character in S1, so that is probably why we didn't get to see her. Also, this same woman (I'm guessing) made a pass in the background at Nathan's wake.
I swear, sometimes I see your recaps and it's like they were written by my 11-year-old son. He had a hard time wrapping his head around how they staged Nathan's death for public consumption, but even he was able to pick up on Peter's rather pointed queries about West, and then asking Claire to call him to meet Peter. Do you guys have to be shown everything?
* Hiro, Ando and Mohinder are now on the run? Where did that come from?That, to me, looked like a flashback from Fugitives; just like the scene of Sylar putting on the black baseball cap -- it was canned footage from a previous episode. * We know Heroes is hard up for money, but must it shill so blatantly for Sprint?If it was the only show that did this, there would be a concern. But let's face it, the bottom line is making money, and they do so by selling ads and/or ad space. This show does the same with Nissan. * Samuel said Claire isn't the person he's after. To whom do you think he's referring?I like FD's idea that Samuel is hoping to provoke HRG into some reaction that will justify an attack on normal people. It makes sense. The other possibility would be using Claire as bait to get Sylar/Nathan back to the carnival, because I would have to assume he wouldn't know at this point that Nathan's psyche has given up and he is now effectively dead. * What the heck happened to Lydia being pissed at Samuel for killing Jacob? Can this show ever maintain consistent storytelling?F.D. hit this one bang on. * HRG is a veteran, secret agent... and keeps his files at home, in a box labeled "Primatech." Really?!? Yes, a little lame. But it's not like he has access to an office or subterranean lair anymore. * Were you happy to have known about Nathan's death for weeks? Or do you wish it had been a surprise?I do wish the death they teased wasn't such a cop out.
I like that Sylar didn't immediately manifest himself in his body, as far as we know. The show left us wondering what happened to Sylar's consciousness. That is a good cliffhanger device. But there are a couple of options. Just as Sylar's consciousness had to struggle with Parkman's, we could be headed to a mental showdown between Nathan and Sylar within Sylar's mind. Or, it is possible that Sylar has already manifested himself back where he belongs, but is choosing to remain as Nathan to get close to the people who did this to him. Angela and HRG will certainly be more receptive to Nathan walking through the door than they would to Sylar.
F.D., you hit it bang on. I agree that the structure of this season is very similar to S1, and I don't think that's an accident. After the critical hammering delivered to S2 and S3, they went back to what was successful. I also think we are, in essence, getting what we have been clamouring for, and that is a return to what made Heroes successful in its first season.
I disagree. Samuel is the common thread, he is the threat that lurks, but what makes him more creepy is he doesn't lurk in the shadows, but is quite up front. Samuel and his carnival have linked Sylar/Nathan, Hiro, Tracey, Claire, HRG, Peter, soon Mohinder. The mystery is what his endgame will be. As I've mentioned before, wait until this season is over before we can fairly compare it to the others, particularly S1.
Granted. We learned of that objective in the fifth episode, so I'll give you that this season is bit behind in revealing what the endgame is. Maybe we got it last night from Sylar: Find my body, kill all involved. LOL
I think you are being a little unfair in this assessment, as we have the benefit of evaluating S1 as a whole, but only part of S4, and there may be a little rose-coloured glasses retrospective here. I agree that S1 was excellent, but it was just as fractured as this season before everybody met at Kirby Plaza. In the first half of the season, what did the Jessica storyline have to do with a cheerleader discovering she has regenerative powers? We had the Nathan storyline on its own, Peter's on its own as he learned to cope with his powers, which crossed over to the Isaac/Simone story. Hiro and Ando had no link to the Parkman storyline. S1 was filled with fractured stories that may have had brief crossovers, loosely bound together by Primatech and the threat of Sylar, but building to a monumental event , which we later found out was stopping an exploding man in Kirby Plaza. I think what I like about this season so far is that the formula is very similar. We have fractured stories, loosely bound together by Samuel, and we know it is building to something, we just don't know what that will be yet. They are building something good here, but you can't judge the structure based just on the foundation. Wait until the season is over, and then a fair comparison to Kirby Plaza can be made.
This is a cop out character death if there ever was one. I guess it also rules out the chance of the series leading up to the events of Five Years Gone. I was really hoping Sylar would still adopt the Nathan persona as a public image, allowing him to hide in plain sight, so to speak.
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