Really enjoyed this episode. But, this round table leaves a lot to be desired. "Painting women in a bad light?" SERIOUSLY? Heads up, ladies. Females make up more than 50% of the U.S. population. It is entirely appropriate that they be depicted as something other than whores or nuns. The term I believe is "human" - with all the complexities that entails, women are HUMAN. They are capable of deceit, ambition, loneliness, fear, desire - everything that men can do or feel, women can as well. Please stop cheerleading the erroneous assumption that women need to be shown in a favorable light in order to be found inspiring. They don't. Men aren't depicted that way. Men are shown rising above struggles and flaws, and are considered stronger for doing so. Why not allow female characters the same dignity, earning the valor that comes with the struggle, and not demand that the "win" be a given just because a woman is involved? None of the stories "painted" any of these "women" as anything other than fully-formed humans IMO. Women have fought to be allowed to compete on the same playing field as men. Please don't cheapen their efforts by saying they should play on a prettier, more elevated, awe-inspiring field over in some other corner that won't get as dirty as the real one. Ladies can handle real life. We don't need it handed to us on a silver platter.
CONTINUED FROM BELOW...cultural references and humor is more your speed. Monroe is a 40+-year-old blutbad who fixes clocks, plays the cello, practices yoga, and brews an excellent pot of tea. Stop trying to make him into angsty Angel! He's fine the way he is!
@Allie701 - You do realize that, "Ho, boy," was used as the closer in nearly every QUANTUM LEAP episode, right? Scott Bakula's Sam would utter it every time he jumped into another body and found himself in another predicament. Another good episode, unique because the case was more Hank-centric than any other previously. It also showed that Hank can acquit himself quite well against wesen, even when he can't see their "face," which would be more of a distraction than anything. Nick acted more like the sidekick, which was fine with me. I'm someone who *would* care if Hank was eliminated from the show. The title is GRIMM; not MONROE. I don't want more Monroe because he is not a professional detective, and it would be ludicrous to make him one. He's a sidekick who is more effective in small doses. If you want monster humor, you're watching the wrong show. Go and buy 7 seasons of BUFFY (of which I'm a big fan) if lightening fast quips, puns, cultural references and humor is more your speed. Monroe is a 40+-year-old blutbad who fixes clocks, plays the cello, practices yoga, and brews an excellent pot of tea. Stop trying to make him into angsty Angel! He's fine the way he is!
Another great episode. The most mind-boggling thing for me is that it now leaves the impression that there are TWO groups angling for the Colorado & her crew. BUT...one group does not necessarily want them to return. The entire sub crew is incapacitated, yet whoever revived Chaplin didn't take the chance to officially commander the sub and bring it in. If it had been the DOD's "official" crew, we know they would all be heading back to the U.S. under guard now. So, yes, indeed....WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? If they want Chaplin to motivate resistance back in the U.S., why take his nuclear launch key? Ooo...maybe they want him under THEIR thumb and its the only guarantee they have that he'll do what they want. Chaplin is a bit of wild card. CIA? MI6? It was nice to finally see Sam & Christine together even under hallucinatory circumstances. I think it's clear Sam thought he was kissing his wife. Too bad Sophie had already recovered and was really kissing Sam.
@Enkeli - Assuming Rumple knew the exact date Bae arrives through time, why would he chose to go there *after* Bae arrives and not *before.* He could just have easily figured out Bae's arrival date - 29 years so he allows himself enough time to ensure he is right there when Bae comes through, and he could continue to guide his son to adulthood without any time lost.
@Diana - If you go back to season 1, I think you'll find that those episodes were the same in tone as this season. The only difference is that the audience was in the thrall of a new experience. OUAT has never been a romantic comedy. It's never been "light." The first 7 episodes alone had Regina murdering her father, Rumple murdering the previous Dark One to assume his identity, Cinderella's story, Jiminy Cricket's story, Charming's story & how he came to impersonate the dead prince, and Sheriff Graham dying at the hands of Regina. I'm surprised people recall last year so differently because this is even before Grumpy's story, Red's story (definitely dark), and Mary Margaret's arrest for murder.
@Cheska - You're trying to figure out Bae's age based on linear time. That won't work because the portal Bae went through could have dropped him off anywhere on Earth at any point in time. He could have ended up in the 1800's, or he might have been dropped off in 2000 at the age of 13, which would make him 25 years old now. The writers can make him any age they want for the purposes of the story.
FROM BELOW...That gives me the opportunity to say this. Dear TPTB,If you want to add a recurring character, be it intern or another Grimm, please consider a kick-ass FEMALE character who is not the age of Nick's mom. It's time to introduce someone who is neither witchy (like Adalind & her mom) or sweet & docile (like Juliette & Rosalee). But, instead a capable, intelligent, quick-witted professional who can hold her own & bring something to the party. I liked Detective Valentina. Since she's on leave from the New Mexico PD & she doesn't have anything to do for a whole year, you should think about it. Remember how much more interesting BUFFY & ANGEL became when Faith & Darla were introduced, challenging the morals of the shows heroes? Take a risk. Try it. Think long-term. Thank you!
ery interesting episode. Glad that Ryan wasn't a permanent cast addition, although the character himself was intriguing & had potential. It felt like his purpose was not planned very well. Would this have developed better if the audience had seen him in his home environment w/an alcoholic over several episodes, come to sympathize with him because he really wants to be a detective, & then been shocked that he was actually stalking Nick? It could have been written with the possibility that he was a Grimm before discovering he was a wesen. Talk about self-loathing. What the *&%^ was he? Looked like some sort of vampire worm creature. His whole introduction & storyline just felt so rushed. Recurring characters can be woven much better than this intern so there is an actual emotional payoff instead of the feeling of "see ya!" To compare, refer to the Jonathan character in BUFFY. But, since he's a murderer, I don't think we'll be seeing Ryan again...CONTINUED ABOVE
Not surprised that Schmidt would actually see MAGIC MIKE. I don't know any guy who wanted to see that movie this summer. But, Schmidt would totally own the experience. LOL!
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