he really must have predicted it, like he was said to be able to in the pilot. but even then, how did he not see belle?
Because just like it is in most of cases in fairytales and myths and etc, he most likely CAN'T see his own future or those close to him. Thus Bae and Belle were shielded from his powers of seeing into future.
And yeh, everything seemed to be pre-planned, down to the cellphones ringing just as Regina and Emma are about to chase down Gold.
Didn't it show the clock stuck at 8:15 again...
not stuck. the clock hit 8:15, bringing the season full circle as the whole deal of curse breaking started at 8:15. THis episode had a lot of book-end moments (henry waking up with a kiss just like show started with snow and charming, emma throwing a sword to maleficent just like charming did in pilot, etc).
I don't think Regina loves Henry - because she can't. If she did, then she could have kissed Henry and broken the curse, but she didn't even approach him.
For the kiss to work, the love must be mutual. Henry does not feel that way about regina, thus it would NOT work.
Some people just keep bringing up that "Emma believed too fast".
Disagree.
Emma's belief was gradual. She started the show in disbelief on all of these things and through the show we saw those glimpses of her going "what the hell" at stuff. By the 1x21 she was not disbelieving, she was actively trying to deny it all because of her own personality.
Henry's situation forced her to face up to it all because she had no choice of sitting around - because henry, the responsibility she is trying to take, became part of the responsibility she was trying to deny.
In a sense that is a parallel to Regina. Regina in a way chose Henry over the curse, working with Emma, etc. Emma, chose Henry over her own peace of mind, accepting the responsibilities she was running away from.
Also, I agree I would have liked the happy family reunion (Charming, Snow, Emma and Henry). I hope next season catches up exactly right where we left off.
Frankly I doubt it will be that happy. There are bound to be issues and awkwardness between them all. Emma is their daughter they never saw growing up and they are her parents she never got chance to have.
and I am not sure why Rumple would WANT to bring magic back if it's going to benefit Regina as well
rumple is older, wiser, stronger and way way more powerful. He does not see Regina as a threat, especially now when he seemingly holds all the cards. am very curious to find out next season WHY they weren't transported back...
Because no one said that curse breaking would do that? Rumple never said that curse breaking would result in them all returning to their world.
However, I think that Emma came around kind of quickly...
It was something that was built upon every episode. She went from disbelieving to actively trying to deny the belief as shown in 1x21. Henry's situation was just that final pebble that broke down the entire dam.
Will Regina redeem herself? That smile at the end wasn't a good sign though. That, I'm not sure I understood, because she didn't want the curse to be broken in the first place. Now it is and she seems pleased?!
The way I see it, Regina is getting pushed back form her position as main villain into more of smaller villain role as Emma's FOIL. I can clearly see her and Emma having those frienemies moments like in this episode and Regina eventually starting to get better as a person.
Regina was happy because that smoke is magic coming back - hence she gets her powers, hence she has a fighting chance instead of having nothing.
Also, Pinocchio's deal was to help Emma break the curse. Not to help her believe. Till curse broke in the eyes of the magic that crated him, he WAS dishonorable.
Why did Pinocchio transform? Not only was he honorable, but Emma finally believed. If his purpose was fulfilled then why did he turn to wood? And why did his face turn so fast while it took weeks for his leg to do so?
His magic ran out.
I can go on with the multitude of discrepancies, contradictions and plotholes this show keeps throwing at us every episode.
Then please go on and list the actual things. So far all you managed to list are "baww, I did not understand how it works" cases.
And why is the river even in Storybrooke? The rivers of fairytale world were also transported through the curse? Does that mean the whole landscape of fairytale world was transported? The multitude of kingdoms? Foreign lands like the genie's Aggrabah? The infinite forrest?
Yes to all of that.
According to Regina, Storybrooke is bigger on the inside than on the outside. The town houses entire world.
Why did the river still have its magic in the first place? Shouldn't all magic have disappeared? It should be a normal river by now.
There's leftovers magic everywhere in storybrooke. Its just leftovers from FTL and most of stuff that could be used has run out during those 28 years. The river might have had magical nature in it, but it grew weaker over time. Gold used the potion to "reignite" it there and the effects of the well did the rest then.
oved it but just one little problem. How did Jefferson know that Gold would release the magic so presumably he would get his own powers back to save his daughter?
He did not.
Just as Regina said, Jefferson does not have it in him to actually kill Regina.
So he freed Belle and directed her to Gold in order to paint a big target on Regina, as a way to get back at her.
Mr. Gold however was the most curious of the episode. I believe that this is all playing out like he planned (or rather suspected.
Most likely planned. We do know Rumple can see future(just not his own most likely, hence why he can't see Bae or belle). Everything since emma came to town pretty much played out exactly as he wanted, down to Emma and Regina's phones ringing about henry just as they are about to go after Gold.
How many times had she picked up that book before? Was this time different because she was open to the possibility now that this could all be true?
IMO, book itself has nothing to do with her starting to believe.
Emma has been gradually getting clues and inconsistencies in storybrooke that would add up to belief, but due to her own insecurities and inability to accept responsibility, she was in deep denial over all of it.
Henry getting hurt pretty much broke the dam, caused avalanche or whatever you want to call. And once she believed, book was able to show her that as a sort of "activation".
You awesome Mr.Gold. EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. Played EXACTLY how he planned. all these years ago. He banked on EXACTLY THIS TURN OF EVENTS. EXACTLY THIS SITUATION. EXACTLY THIS OUTCOME.
And the ending...HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED To WAIT ENTIRE SUMMER NOW?
Without the doubt the BEST season finale of the year.
Well just as expected, Emma's build up needed a push. Which henry happened to be. Then everything she experienced fell into place and she stopped denying the facts to herself and started to slowly believe that she can do this. Because she had no choice.
It was nice to see Emma and Regina working together. I guess now, since Gold is sort of taking over as main villain, Regina and Emma will be in sort of frenemies territory with both of them being against each other but teaming up from time to time when their interests match
Well I must be only one here who thought this was the best episode this show has had yet. Everything fit together and the story was intense, new and different from the rest of "crime of the week" episodes.
Hank finally had some some depth and Juliette was awesome as always and it was nice to get some insight into Monroe's inner struggle.
OVerall one of the best episodes. I certainly better than sociopath-Cinderella one.
Biggest shocker: Klaus taking over Tyler, Alaric dying or Elena turning?
First. The second and third are pretty much a given people have guessed for weeks already. The first was an ultimate and utter trainwreck. Did Elena make the right choice?
No one cares about Elena and her "choices" or overall Elena. Most extreme action: Bonnie spelling Klaus, Rebekah causing the accident or Elena's chipper morning mood?
Third. She seemed like an antichrist. It was same boring bland cardboard, but with fake smile and chipperness and still without personality. Give this season a grade.
F-. The show has been a headless chicken running around without any direction this season. Ultimately anything and everything that was in this season was POINTLESS and reasonless and essentially, the turning could have happened in the end of S1 and would have had ACTUAL EMOTIONAL value back then. Essentially S2 and S3 are filler seasons and nothing in them matters.
@If Elena's turning was the conclusion for this season, WHERE WAS THE BUILD UP TO IT? It would have made a lil bit more sense back in s2 when Elena actually talked about all this stuff....now its like out of nowhere.
Actually i'd say it would have made more sense as conclusion of S1 as S1 actually explored her human life and drew parallels between her and her mother and katherine.
S2 had potential in that but the show failed to focus on how the whole katherine stuff and sacrifice stuff affects her life and was too busy throwing us random plot twists already.
So yeah, turning would have worked best emotionally and shockingly in the s1 finale, with exact same scene, but with katherine instead of becky.
Well, I'll take your word for it since I haven't seen s1, but yeah...ugh...some twist they left us with, lol!
S1 was like S2, but GOOD.
You had introduction of vampire lore, council being suspicious, etc. You had Elena search for her mother(who as it appears willingly turned vampire) and we had flashbacks to Katherine, Damon and Steffie, paralleling that, with finale even having a scene where Elena does some katherine-like mannerism.
The finale even had a car crash, for pete's sake and turning her THEM would have given us an emotional pay off, it would fit with Katherine's reappearance, explain why they even want to kill katherine in S2, not to mention shock value of elena turning. It just fit with that season, the whole season.
Now no one cares about miss cardboard enough to care about the whole turning storyline.
That besides Klaus, Rebekah and Elijah, we really did not need more Originals?
Hell even Becky is pushing it since she is basically Katherine 2.0.
I said this before and I'll say it again, NOTHING in S2 or S3 contributed to this finale in anyway. It could have as easily happened in the end of S1 with Katherine instead of Becky. Thus in the end both S2 and S3 are pointless.
If Elena's turning was the conclusion for this season, WHERE WAS THE BUILD UP TO IT? It would have made a lil bit more sense back in s2 when Elena actually talked about all this stuff....now its like out of nowhere.
Actually it fit more with the end of S1 with both parallels to Katherine and Isobel and a lot of talking about how death affects them all, not to mention back then we saw Elena's self-discovery journey. S2 the whole "i dun wanna die" scenes and end was seriously tacked on upon a season that focused on entirely different things before "Sacrifice" trainwreck.
In the books since the last blood she drank was Damon's she thought Damon is her mate when she turned .. But then all the memories came back and she went back to Stefan.
Except not.
that period when she became vampire built up the DE connection and by the end of the last LJ-smith written book she genuinely loved Damon and at very least would not be content without them both and at most, loved damon more.
Yet again, that was a different Elena. Not this cardboard form tv show.
Its quite clear Jane is playing a long con on Red John nad has some thought on the CBI bosss probably being involved in RJ stuff.The question still remains on if RJ won't turn it around against him.
And while its a con, it does showcase just how far and how dark Patrick can be.
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Because just like it is in most of cases in fairytales and myths and etc, he most likely CAN'T see his own future or those close to him. Thus Bae and Belle were shielded from his powers of seeing into future.
And yeh, everything seemed to be pre-planned, down to the cellphones ringing just as Regina and Emma are about to chase down Gold.
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not stuck. the clock hit 8:15, bringing the season full circle as the whole deal of curse breaking started at 8:15. THis episode had a lot of book-end moments (henry waking up with a kiss just like show started with snow and charming, emma throwing a sword to maleficent just like charming did in pilot, etc).
I don't think Regina loves Henry - because she can't. If she did, then she could have kissed Henry and broken the curse, but she didn't even approach him.
For the kiss to work, the love must be mutual. Henry does not feel that way about regina, thus it would NOT work.
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Disagree.
Emma's belief was gradual. She started the show in disbelief on all of these things and through the show we saw those glimpses of her going "what the hell" at stuff. By the 1x21 she was not disbelieving, she was actively trying to deny it all because of her own personality.
Henry's situation forced her to face up to it all because she had no choice of sitting around - because henry, the responsibility she is trying to take, became part of the responsibility she was trying to deny.
In a sense that is a parallel to Regina. Regina in a way chose Henry over the curse, working with Emma, etc. Emma, chose Henry over her own peace of mind, accepting the responsibilities she was running away from.
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Frankly I doubt it will be that happy. There are bound to be issues and awkwardness between them all. Emma is their daughter they never saw growing up and they are her parents she never got chance to have.
Lots of issues to be worked out.
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rumple is older, wiser, stronger and way way more powerful. He does not see Regina as a threat, especially now when he seemingly holds all the cards.
am very curious to find out next season WHY they weren't transported back...
Because no one said that curse breaking would do that? Rumple never said that curse breaking would result in them all returning to their world.
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It was something that was built upon every episode. She went from disbelieving to actively trying to deny the belief as shown in 1x21. Henry's situation was just that final pebble that broke down the entire dam.
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The way I see it, Regina is getting pushed back form her position as main villain into more of smaller villain role as Emma's FOIL. I can clearly see her and Emma having those frienemies moments like in this episode and Regina eventually starting to get better as a person.
Regina was happy because that smoke is magic coming back - hence she gets her powers, hence she has a fighting chance instead of having nothing.
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Once Upon a Time Review: True Love's Kiss
His magic ran out.
I can go on with the multitude of discrepancies, contradictions and plotholes this show keeps throwing at us every episode.
Then please go on and list the actual things. So far all you managed to list are "baww, I did not understand how it works" cases.
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Yes to all of that.
According to Regina, Storybrooke is bigger on the inside than on the outside. The town houses entire world.
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There's leftovers magic everywhere in storybrooke. Its just leftovers from FTL and most of stuff that could be used has run out during those 28 years. The river might have had magical nature in it, but it grew weaker over time. Gold used the potion to "reignite" it there and the effects of the well did the rest then.
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He did not.
Just as Regina said, Jefferson does not have it in him to actually kill Regina.
So he freed Belle and directed her to Gold in order to paint a big target on Regina, as a way to get back at her.
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Most likely planned. We do know Rumple can see future(just not his own most likely, hence why he can't see Bae or belle). Everything since emma came to town pretty much played out exactly as he wanted, down to Emma and Regina's phones ringing about henry just as they are about to go after Gold.
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IMO, book itself has nothing to do with her starting to believe.
Emma has been gradually getting clues and inconsistencies in storybrooke that would add up to belief, but due to her own insecurities and inability to accept responsibility, she was in deep denial over all of it.
Henry getting hurt pretty much broke the dam, caused avalanche or whatever you want to call. And once she believed, book was able to show her that as a sort of "activation".
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And the ending...HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED To WAIT ENTIRE SUMMER NOW?
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Well just as expected, Emma's build up needed a push. Which henry happened to be. Then everything she experienced fell into place and she stopped denying the facts to herself and started to slowly believe that she can do this. Because she had no choice.
It was nice to see Emma and Regina working together. I guess now, since Gold is sort of taking over as main villain, Regina and Emma will be in sort of frenemies territory with both of them being against each other but teaming up from time to time when their interests match
BELLE. BELLE. BELLE. YESSS
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Hank finally had some some depth and Juliette was awesome as always and it was nice to get some insight into Monroe's inner struggle.
OVerall one of the best episodes. I certainly better than sociopath-Cinderella one.
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First. The second and third are pretty much a given people have guessed for weeks already. The first was an ultimate and utter trainwreck.
Did Elena make the right choice?
No one cares about Elena and her "choices" or overall Elena.
Most extreme action: Bonnie spelling Klaus, Rebekah causing the accident or Elena's chipper morning mood?
Third. She seemed like an antichrist. It was same boring bland cardboard, but with fake smile and chipperness and still without personality.
Give this season a grade.
F-. The show has been a headless chicken running around without any direction this season. Ultimately anything and everything that was in this season was POINTLESS and reasonless and essentially, the turning could have happened in the end of S1 and would have had ACTUAL EMOTIONAL value back then. Essentially S2 and S3 are filler seasons and nothing in them matters.
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Actually i'd say it would have made more sense as conclusion of S1 as S1 actually explored her human life and drew parallels between her and her mother and katherine.
S2 had potential in that but the show failed to focus on how the whole katherine stuff and sacrifice stuff affects her life and was too busy throwing us random plot twists already.
So yeah, turning would have worked best emotionally and shockingly in the s1 finale, with exact same scene, but with katherine instead of becky.
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S1 was like S2, but GOOD.
You had introduction of vampire lore, council being suspicious, etc. You had Elena search for her mother(who as it appears willingly turned vampire) and we had flashbacks to Katherine, Damon and Steffie, paralleling that, with finale even having a scene where Elena does some katherine-like mannerism.
The finale even had a car crash, for pete's sake and turning her THEM would have given us an emotional pay off, it would fit with Katherine's reappearance, explain why they even want to kill katherine in S2, not to mention shock value of elena turning. It just fit with that season, the whole season.
Now no one cares about miss cardboard enough to care about the whole turning storyline.
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Hell even Becky is pushing it since she is basically Katherine 2.0.
I said this before and I'll say it again, NOTHING in S2 or S3 contributed to this finale in anyway. It could have as easily happened in the end of S1 with Katherine instead of Becky. Thus in the end both S2 and S3 are pointless.
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Actually it fit more with the end of S1 with both parallels to Katherine and Isobel and a lot of talking about how death affects them all, not to mention back then we saw Elena's self-discovery journey. S2 the whole "i dun wanna die" scenes and end was seriously tacked on upon a season that focused on entirely different things before "Sacrifice" trainwreck.
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Except not.
that period when she became vampire built up the DE connection and by the end of the last LJ-smith written book she genuinely loved Damon and at very least would not be content without them both and at most, loved damon more.
Yet again, that was a different Elena. Not this cardboard form tv show.
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Its quite clear Jane is playing a long con on Red John nad has some thought on the CBI bosss probably being involved in RJ stuff.The question still remains on if RJ won't turn it around against him.
And while its a con, it does showcase just how far and how dark Patrick can be.
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A lot of people could not care less about Damon the crybaby misogynist abusive rapist or Steffie the crybaby abusive alcoholic.
There are far more outright ridiculous things in this show that break it apart and make it impossible to enjoy even as trainwreck.