I don't care about Elena enough to want to see her into a vampire.
THIS SO MUCH.
Its too late. That should have been the FIRST turning we have seen. Now after, what 50? humans turning vampires situations they finaly decide to turn her? What was the point of S2 and S3? They could have turned her in the end of S1 and that would actually have had some emotional impact.
Now people despise miss cardboard far too much to care about her turning.
Not to mention that Book-Elena's NORMAL life was built up and interesting. We saw her ties to the world and WHAT SHE LOST. we CARED. we do not with miss cardboard.
How can she be Bella Swan when The Vampire Diaries series was written before Twilight? She turns into a Vampire in the Books too
BECAUSE BOOK ELENA IS NOT TV SHOW ELENA. Entirelly different character. Book Elena is original blair waldorf, original cordelia chase, original buffy summers and all of those other self-assertive well developed female protagonists. TV SHOW Elena is a bland cardboard box with no personality.
Also her vampire turning in the books was awesome. It developed DE relationship dynamics because of the guilt Damon felt for her turning. Then again damon was not a wussy like the tv show one.
Seriously what was the point of NOT turning her in the end of season one? What was the point of S3 and S2? No point at all. Both of those seasons did nothing to the triangle, nor Elena's character.
Oh wait, it did a lot to elena's character. It made majority of fandom despise her.
This would have been way more effective if we did not have what 6?10?20? vampire turnings before this and if we cared at all about miss cardboard.
But FInale...finale was a failure of NBC's HEROES level.
Overall looking back, I still question on why the hell did they not turn Elena in the end of season one? Because ultimately both S2 and S3 were entirely pointless downward ride towards mediocrity till the point when show was not even enjoyable as trainwreck.
Had she turned then, before her character degraded and we had thousands of other turnings, it might have been interesting? Now? Sorry show, too little too late. You just proved with this episode that you do not know how to handle your own characters.
Overall I will certainly won't miss this show at all and the only regret is that i got out of it way too late, with memories of the GOOD QUALITY TVD stained by most of S3 mediocrity.
A lot of us hoped that after horrible finale something would change - steffie was supposedly bad and all that stuff and "nothing was the same" ...sadly S3 was worse. The show managed to waste all the "twists" of S2 finale, making the main trio even more unlikeable and bland, wasted perfect good villain, Klaus turning him into wussy and introduced a bunch of characterless "originals".
Whats worse, S3 had absolutely no direction. Every episode we would return to exact same point of story, bringing nothing new to the table. TVD was a headless chicken, running around the farm in all directions and bumping into the walls.
Overall this show had a LOT of potential, but after first season writers just lost their way and started to do nonsense. The show completely went off any sensible direction right after Masquerade, with them having put Katherine in a tomb.
Season two sacrifice story was horrible. Elena characterization was a pure mary sue stuff of nightmares, she did not react to anything and the show established that death means nothing.
Klaus in Tyler body was just LOL. Out of nowhere, just like a lot of things this season.
The "romance" scene with steffie was emotionless and bland and felt like something out of twilight. Same with Damon phonecall.
Turning gave no emotions to the viewer. NO reason to care about Elena or well, anything on what she is. BOORING. We have no reason to care about her loss of normal life, because her normal life development has complexity of first grader's math homework.
okay this was a hilarious trainwreck.
I did not think it was possible but they managed to make even worse episode than previous finale, than whole sacrifice story, than Ghost World, than all bad parts of S3 merged together.
The episode has hit all the wrong notes.
It did nothing for Elena's character and flashbacks were pointless - they gave us nothing interesting and Elena remains boring and character-less EVEN in flashbacks so one can't just pass it to "post traumatic stress disorder" anymore. She was always bella swan.
not to mention Elena is pretty much bland, not just bland, but bella swan bland. As well as annoying, irritating. And people stopped caring about entire triangle after plec has
"Twilighted" it for two damn seasons till the entire trio of main characters is pretty much unlikeable. .
Too soon? its allready too fucking late. It had to happen at the end of s2 tops, preferably at the end of S1 when elena was still bearable character so we could CARE on what she is going through.
Who has been the season three MVP?
Inconsistencies and utter chaos in terms of writing. And that benny hill show tune that makes visit to my room every time I watch an episode.
Make one bold prediction regarding the finale.
Elena turns int he way she did in the books(meh), thus Rick appears to be died but TWIST(!) is most likely not.
Who will Elena choose?
herself or jeremy. not that the choice will matter anyway since its quite obvious on what will happen then. Rank in order of most likely to die: 'Ric, Sheriff Forbes, Jeremy, Bon-Bon, and Matty.
Rick, matt, mommy forbes, jeremy, bonnie.
That is "die" not "stay dead". I can see rick dying due to elena dying, only to be revealed to not have died.
More likely to appear: Katherine, Klaus or Rose?
while all three now are equally boring plot devies, I guess Klaus and Katherine.
Here's a question that just occurred to me: how did Jefferson end up in Storybrooke? Wasn't he in WONDERLAND when the spell went down? If he was in FTL why couldn't he reunite with Grace? If the curse works across realities, then Why didn't it affect Bae and Emma and August after all?
hatter is essentially part of FTL, so it makes sense he was affected.
I don't know about the set pictures, but if anyone wants a very big potential spoiler about the finale re: David and MM, watch this very short but very telling scene from the set:
yeh, thats what I am talking about and exactly why i think David's about to bite it minutes after that scene.
but I don't think that Emma will be any closer to believing in the curse.
she already does. she just does not want to accept it to herself, hence denial. because accepting it would be to accept responsibility, something emma has always been running from. So i think its pretty much given that she will believe next episode. I would not be surprised on if she already does now after henry fell.
did Storybrooke just appear on the map 28 years ago? Does it have interaction with the outside world (goods like food and clothing must come from somewhere, right?)?
for all intents, it does not exist in the world. I doubt that anyone could even LOCATE it, just like with Lost's Island. food and clothing is there through magic of the curse.
Do the people in Storybrooke know how long they've been there (i.e..do they know their ages, birth dates)...
was already explained in first episodes that they do not. till emma visited them they have not even been aging and have been pretty much in a loop of everydays. Once clock started to move, everyone started to age.
Does anyone question just WHY Regina wanted Henry? I don't think it was her yearning to be a mother.
Actually thats pretty much it. She wanted an emotional bond, someone to love and someone who would love her back.
One thing that is annoying me is that there is no magic in our world but August has to maintain the requirements of deal to keep him human, the magic deal, or he MAGICALLY turns back to wood. It's basically saying that magic is wearing off but there IS not magic. Huh?
Let's equate magic with electricity.
Imagine that there's no electricity in the world, except for what is in batteries.
Regina brought some batteries with her. August is running on batteries, but they will run out.
Emma is someone who is about to rediscover and invent electricity itself in the world :)
As for the set photos, I think he meant more than that, building to something to me implies it will be something surprising and substantial.
I'd say what was shown in those set photos from finale IS the most substantial and surprising thing that can happen to them. ITs the absolute highpoint of that relationship
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The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
THIS SO MUCH.
Its too late. That should have been the FIRST turning we have seen. Now after, what 50? humans turning vampires situations they finaly decide to turn her? What was the point of S2 and S3? They could have turned her in the end of S1 and that would actually have had some emotional impact.
Now people despise miss cardboard far too much to care about her turning.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
BECAUSE BOOK ELENA IS NOT TV SHOW ELENA. Entirelly different character. Book Elena is original blair waldorf, original cordelia chase, original buffy summers and all of those other self-assertive well developed female protagonists. TV SHOW Elena is a bland cardboard box with no personality.
Also her vampire turning in the books was awesome. It developed DE relationship dynamics because of the guilt Damon felt for her turning. Then again damon was not a wussy like the tv show one.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
Oh wait, it did a lot to elena's character. It made majority of fandom despise her.
This would have been way more effective if we did not have what 6?10?20? vampire turnings before this and if we cared at all about miss cardboard.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
Overall looking back, I still question on why the hell did they not turn Elena in the end of season one? Because ultimately both S2 and S3 were entirely pointless downward ride towards mediocrity till the point when show was not even enjoyable as trainwreck.
Had she turned then, before her character degraded and we had thousands of other turnings, it might have been interesting? Now? Sorry show, too little too late. You just proved with this episode that you do not know how to handle your own characters.
Overall I will certainly won't miss this show at all and the only regret is that i got out of it way too late, with memories of the GOOD QUALITY TVD stained by most of S3 mediocrity.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
Whats worse, S3 had absolutely no direction. Every episode we would return to exact same point of story, bringing nothing new to the table. TVD was a headless chicken, running around the farm in all directions and bumping into the walls.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
Season two sacrifice story was horrible. Elena characterization was a pure mary sue stuff of nightmares, she did not react to anything and the show established that death means nothing.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
The "romance" scene with steffie was emotionless and bland and felt like something out of twilight. Same with Damon phonecall.
Turning gave no emotions to the viewer. NO reason to care about Elena or well, anything on what she is. BOORING. We have no reason to care about her loss of normal life, because her normal life development has complexity of first grader's math homework.
The Vampire Diaries Review: One Wrong Turn
I did not think it was possible but they managed to make even worse episode than previous finale, than whole sacrifice story, than Ghost World, than all bad parts of S3 merged together.
The episode has hit all the wrong notes.
It did nothing for Elena's character and flashbacks were pointless - they gave us nothing interesting and Elena remains boring and character-less EVEN in flashbacks so one can't just pass it to "post traumatic stress disorder" anymore. She was always bella swan.
Kat Graham Teases "Huge" Season Finale Death on The Vampire Diaries
A) Alaric bites it.
B) Elena turns.
C) Both.
Meh.
Vampire Diaries Season Finale Clip: Letting Go
"Twilighted" it for two damn seasons till the entire trio of main characters is pretty much unlikeable. .
Vampire Diaries Season Finale Clip: Letting Go
THIS THIS THIS. It won't matter anyway. it will get interrupted, stopped, etc, whatever.
Also, just as I thought, that clip nearly put me to sleep. Gods I don't even want to imagine on how boring the finale will be...
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
because both of them are tied to a curse.
The town wanted to be located, so to say.
It WAS there for them. Its not there for anyone else.
Daniel Gillies Teases "Hot Mess" of "Tragedy" on The Vampire Diaries Finale
Too soon? its allready too fucking late. It had to happen at the end of s2 tops, preferably at the end of S1 when elena was still bearable character so we could CARE on what she is going through.
The Vampire Diaries Round Table: Pre-Finale Edition!
Inconsistencies and utter chaos in terms of writing. And that benny hill show tune that makes visit to my room every time I watch an episode.
Make one bold prediction regarding the finale.
Elena turns int he way she did in the books(meh), thus Rick appears to be died but TWIST(!) is most likely not.
The Vampire Diaries Round Table: Pre-Finale Edition!
herself or jeremy. not that the choice will matter anyway since its quite obvious on what will happen then.
Rank in order of most likely to die: 'Ric, Sheriff Forbes, Jeremy, Bon-Bon, and Matty.
Rick, matt, mommy forbes, jeremy, bonnie.
That is "die" not "stay dead". I can see rick dying due to elena dying, only to be revealed to not have died.
More likely to appear: Katherine, Klaus or Rose?
while all three now are equally boring plot devies, I guess Klaus and Katherine.
Once Upon a Time Season Finale Pics, Preview: Good vs. Evil
hatter is essentially part of FTL, so it makes sense he was affected.
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
yeh, thats what I am talking about and exactly why i think David's about to bite it minutes after that scene.
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
she already does. she just does not want to accept it to herself, hence denial. because accepting it would be to accept responsibility, something emma has always been running from. So i think its pretty much given that she will believe next episode. I would not be surprised on if she already does now after henry fell.
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
for all intents, it does not exist in the world. I doubt that anyone could even LOCATE it, just like with Lost's Island. food and clothing is there through magic of the curse.
Do the people in Storybrooke know how long they've been there (i.e..do they know their ages, birth dates)...
was already explained in first episodes that they do not. till emma visited them they have not even been aging and have been pretty much in a loop of everydays. Once clock started to move, everyone started to age.
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
Actually thats pretty much it. She wanted an emotional bond, someone to love and someone who would love her back.
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
Let's equate magic with electricity.
Imagine that there's no electricity in the world, except for what is in batteries.
Regina brought some batteries with her. August is running on batteries, but they will run out.
Emma is someone who is about to rediscover and invent electricity itself in the world :)
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
I'd say what was shown in those set photos from finale IS the most substantial and surprising thing that can happen to them. ITs the absolute highpoint of that relationship
Once Upon a Time Review: The Fruits of Sacrifice
We do not know that. So far evidence points to it having magic.
- The hat magic sound just after he jump.
- The fact taht he is alive and well after jumping two story building.
Emma's belief is what triggers magic so far, so if she believed for even a second during making it, it would contain magic.