Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

At the bellow commenteR: but is that a character growth or character assassination? If that is growth then Klaus too grew ! Grew from an interesting villain to ponny-painting wussy. Damon's "growth" goes against his baseline. Its not growth. Its stripping down the layers into one-dimensional archetype. Damon started as a mixed character with many layers. By now there's just "wussy crybaby". There are no layers. no shades of gray anymore. Damon is a shadow of his former, INTERESTING, personality and thats not growth. Thats something every character except Caroline has suffered in this show. Caroline's character grew with a meaningful and consistent character development.
Everyone else degraded.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

yep. the show left "mature" two seasons ago. all that is left is shallow soap without logic or coherence and with even more , unlikeable, bland, underdeveloped and personality-less "protagonist" than bella swan

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

For those telling people to not knock S4 before seeing it.... Think of it this way: TVD is a restaurant. First time you came you got unexpectedly good quality meal .
The second time you came you found 10 dead flies in your soup.
The third time you came you saw the cooks spitting into the meal and the steak that was promised was rotten and stinking. Will you come the fourth time expecting something good? no.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

they do just throw something from left field when they need a new plot line, but, how else would they survive if they Didn't do that?
Oh, I don't know...how about BY ACTUALLY writing coherently, like all good quality shows tend to do? They will be throwing stuff at us we wouldnt guess,
Sadly has not worked for last season and half. as 50% of S3 was outright predictable and the other 50% were trainwrecky "plot twists" that go against all possible logic and coherence.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Are you kidding me? Damon has grown?
Damon has degraded. As obsessed as he was in the first season, at least he was snarky badass anti-hero, season two and onwards he deteriorated into a crybaby wimp who could not do anything without "loves of his life" saying something. .

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

So, she completly ignores Caroline and Stefan's friendship in season 3, but in season 4 it's all very important? Okay, that makes sense!
thats what this show has always done, sadly. TVD ignores stuff and characters till it suddenly decides it needs that. So Caroline/Steffie friendship was non-existent when Steffie was going through crybaby hell, but now suddenly because its Elena, the friendship yet again is there. Its same on how they are using Bonnie's family - her mother suddenly appeared out of nowhere because they needed a plot device for Klaus and now her Father will most likely appear for the very similar reason. The only consistent thing about the show is that every damn character is in love with elena and that Elena is this awesome saint flawless mary sue that does no wrong.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

and all of those themes are...3 seasons too late. Plec, one usually ESTABLISHES why viewers should care about characters first and only then starts doing stupid stuff. As it is right now, there's no reason to care about anyone but Tyler and Caroline. And certainly no reason to care about miss cardboard Elena. And if Plec thinks that suddenly after 66 episodes of nothing, she will manage to make viewers CARE about those characters and make them alive, she can dream on. The book has been already written. And no matter what happens the sour taste fo season two and three can't be washed away.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

1. Will she be killed within an episode? If not then I guess within two?
2. Will she have even more sexist shitty role than Meredith, Elena and Sage did? If yes to either of those two, then sorry don't care.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Dantes sails off without Mercedes,but WITH Haydee...who forced him to accept her love for him.(Fernand,entrusted to take care of her,had sold Haydee into slavery,and Dantes rescued her and used that past to bring Fernand down).
So basically Emily and Nolan ride off to sunset :P

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Edmond Dantes sails off with Haydee at the end of "The Count of Monte Cristo",his revenge issues behind him,and sure as shooting the series finale of Revenge will be our heroine sailing off to Haiti with Jack,her revenge issue behind her.
The thing is, Dantes sails off ALONE. He got his revenge but he lost his love in progress of that. Betting that the end of the show will be Amanda sailing off, but Jack will be either dead or has left her by then.

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