Kitanishi h mcdonald

Great episode(especially loved Emily's emotionless "imsorry" speech to daniel, complete with eye-roll as well as Nolan calling her a sociopath) All I can coherently say about it is... Well congrats Nolan...your emotions might have just jeopardized everything Emily did and put everyone you care about including her in terrible danger. And she will STILL most likely need to kill the white haired guy next week.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

if he saw the future, he would have seen that Pinocchio climbed in the wardrobe and would have known who August is, he would have seen Belle and that she was alive, and would have seen this world before he entered it,
August case was explained by august himself - Rumple wanted him to be bae so much that he ignored every warning he himself knew. And Bae and Belle are connected to him. And in most of cases one can't see his own futures. It has been alluded more than once that Rumple can see future.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

Rumple never saw any future,
Erm, yes he did. He knew when to come to certain events, he knew he would be imprisoned by Cinderella, etc. In the first episode its outright stated that "he can see into the future". Yes IT WAS his plan EVERYTHING WAS HIS PLAN down to one twin dieing and other having to take his place. The thing is that such a plan of centuries of length, would be impossible without seeing into future. He saw the possibilities of future and he planned accordingly, so everything would fall into place exactly as he wants. There has not been even one event in this show he did not plan or foresee.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

I think love will eventually triumph in this show, if the creators can end it on their own terms. But I think both Regina and Gold will be vanquished, as a consequence. I can see both of them in the end, just as Voldemort was at the conclusion of the Harry Potter saga: shriveled souls completely alone and utterly miserable. A tragic end brought on by their refusal of love.
can't see that. Regina is clearly set up to have a redemption arc. Especially after the whole frienemies interaction with Emma this episode and getting demoted to secondary villain. She is essentially Emma's FOIL, sure, but this episode proved that she is not beyond redemption.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

1. When Emma touched the book she got all those visions. Was that because what happened to Henry made it easier for her to believe in magic and the book was just a final step, or was it because this was actually the first time she held the book?
The former. Henry eating the pie and falling down was the pebble that broke the dam. She stopped denying and in that moment, book allowed her to see those memories.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

I agree with the blue fairy thing too. It would be silly for her to miss a chance of eliminating the Dark One curse and even giving up such a rare thing instead.
Or she wanted to manipulate Rumple into creating the curse to begin with :)

Kitanishi h mcdonald

Yes. and its quite interesting that Blue Fairy just conveniently failed to mention that other way of breaking Dark One curse to Bae :)

Kitanishi h mcdonald

also, i wonder, if true love's kiss can also be a kiss from a parent to their child or vice versa, wouldn't that mean that any fairytale character could have broken a curse by being kissed by their parent or child?
It had to be emma, since she is directly connected to the curse. IT also explains why we have seen Huntsman/Graham regain his memories when they kissed. What happened in this episode was already starting then, but Graham died way before it could escalate, reverting Emma to more denial with his death.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

he really must have predicted it, like he was said to be able to in the pilot. but even then, how did he not see belle?
Because just like it is in most of cases in fairytales and myths and etc, he most likely CAN'T see his own future or those close to him. Thus Bae and Belle were shielded from his powers of seeing into future. And yeh, everything seemed to be pre-planned, down to the cellphones ringing just as Regina and Emma are about to chase down Gold.

Kitanishi h mcdonald

Didn't it show the clock stuck at 8:15 again...
not stuck. the clock hit 8:15, bringing the season full circle as the whole deal of curse breaking started at 8:15. THis episode had a lot of book-end moments (henry waking up with a kiss just like show started with snow and charming, emma throwing a sword to maleficent just like charming did in pilot, etc). I don't think Regina loves Henry - because she can't. If she did, then she could have kissed Henry and broken the curse, but she didn't even approach him.
For the kiss to work, the love must be mutual. Henry does not feel that way about regina, thus it would NOT work.