@joyful - good point. She has had a lot of clues that something is amiss, though I saw it as things were amiss with Nick (being called a Grimm, he proposed but she turned him down, he called her in to help on a case and some strange woman new she was upset over two men, he demands to know where she is). I can't remember, did she learn some crummy stuff about Adalind? I'm not saying I disagree, I just can't remember...
I am with everyone who is frustrated with Juliette but unfortunately that is the role she has to play and she's a victim of dramatic irony. The audience knows that Nick's actions are legitimate and justified and the audience knows that she is under a spell but she doesn't know. To her Nick is a stranger whom she is supposed to love and she's trying to piece together what her life was like before the freak coma. I understand why she's overly open with Monroe and Adalind; she actually remembers these people and maybe in a way hopes they can shed light on her confusing life. I am super annoyed with her too but I'm trying to see things from her point of view: she wakes up from a coma to find out she has a stranger, whose life is strange and secretive, living in her house. She finds that she does have feelings are a man whom she DOES remember and feels guilty.
Her storyline and the audience's frustrations with her character (and most female characters for that matter) are not uncommon. It's a result of having so many shows with a male lead whose significant other can never be seen as the leader, she will always be secondary to his storyline - Cordelia "Angel", Rita "Dexter", Lori "The Walking Dead".
Just an aside - the caption sounds like Bill and Jessica are friends and occasional lovers not Jessica and Jason. When I first read it I freaked out because I just love the father/daughter dynamic between Bill and Jessica.
Since Shonda tweeted that we should not believe Ausiello I'm all freaked out again.
Someone in this thread said that Shonda tweeted that merder were not going to die in the finale, I can't find that tweet. Did anyone else see that?
I propose a drinking game for this episode and every other epi from here on out.
I was watching last night's episode while grading English papers and my husband sat on the couch with me for maybe 15 minutes. He came to the conclusion that every time two characters are having a "moment", be that an emotional moment, a sexy moment or a lets-explain-the-evil-spell-while-we-walk moment someone unexpectedly interrupts the duo.
So, every time a twosome is having a "moment" and is interrupted, we drink!
@ Bored Now
While I think you can be a bit curt at times I often consider your insights to be the most spot on. TVD definitely has a formula but it's more irritating than entertaining. I still watch the show because I love Caroline and Alaric but I am tiring of the triangle. The love-triangle is probably my least favorite tv/film trope and it needs to end. Movies/TV shows that revolve around love triangles tend to be one dimensional. I think TVD can get itself out of this if only Plec and Williamson would realize that they are better writers than that.
I have one qualm that's really starting to frustrate me and that qualm is Regina. So far I see no redeeming qualities in her and I could care less that Snow "betrayed" her. At the beginning I thought Regina's connection with and ultimate betrayal of her father was really interesting. I think if they had pursued that then I would feel more empathy for Regina. I know there is a story coming up where we learn why Regina hates Snow but I just can't imagine caring. Someone else pointed out that Regina ALWAYS has the upper hand. Everything feels fruitless; no fruit for fairytale creatures. Why get invested in relationships when we know that Regina is just going to bring them to a crushing end?
I thought this was a great episode! Usually I'm pretty good and detecting who the bady of the episode but I sooooo didn't see Red's reveal coming. I appreciate what KansasGuest said about Red's happy ending being about her own life and a realization that she has a huge responsibility to her friend, family and society in general. She doesn't need a man waiting for her to be happy (though we all love a good love story!).
I would really love to see Snow and Red's friendship develop more and even Emma and Snow's. I watch/read fiction because I love strong friendships. I believe that one can create their own psuedo-family with the people they surround themselves with and my heartstrings are pulled with those families are threatened.
I think the way Heigl left was very petty and I'm not a huge fan of the actress's ego but I loved Izzie's character! She wasn't my favorite but she was part of the core, one of the original interns, and I miss that about Grey's. I'm a sucker for shows about friendship. Bring her back Shonda! You don't have to like Heigl but admit it! You miss Izzie too.
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