Queenbee94

When the queen first made it clear she wanted to go to wonderland I wondered if this wonderland could somehow be the real world. Alice in the book lives in the real world and enters wonderland. Somehow it would've been interesting to find out that "wonderland" is actually fairytale land...
It also made me wonder if the other doors in the hat lead somewhere as well and if the show is going to explore this tale any further.

Queenbee94

I'm all for freedom of speech and I appreciate criticism but there comes a point when others take this personal and are offended by it. I'm not excluding myself in this statement. I think that's the point where either party has to draw a line and just leave it because it looks like people are getting more and more wound up in this, which is unnecessary as this is still just a tv show.

Queenbee94

Agreed with Dancer Chic in every point.

Queenbee94

You don't need to criticise every sentence I'm writing. I get it, we don't share an opinion. I don't need confirmation for my opinion, I just wanted to make you see why other people don't have a problem with Elena's character. Also, let's not be megalomanic and relate me saying that I accept a TV show's flaw to the Berlin wall. That's a whole different situation.

Queenbee94

I don't want to see textbook characters, I want to see new ones. I often find characters' reactions on TV shows unrealistic and ridiculous and maybe Elena fits that description sometimes but I get over it because Elena's reactions don't interfere with my perception of the show. To me they are a detail that could've been used in a better way but is not essential to the show. Obviously we have different opinions and obviously you have no intention whatsoever to change yours so I'm going to stop trying. We can't change the show so we might as well accept its flaws and just get over it.

Queenbee94

Again, I think it's natural for someone to hold their emotions until it gets too much. You say we don't see her holding these emotions (which is the point by the way) but just last episode she wanted to tell Jeremy all about her problems with Alaric etc and cry and she stayed strong (regarding my point that she needs to stay strong for jeremy).
Yes, Elena mourning and crying and visiting the graves disappears after 4 episode because people get bored of that. People don't want to see sad Elena all the time. People also don't want to hear about those parents we have absolutely no relation to every episode. This is a show about vampires and supernatural beings and romance. It's not about grief and emotions. Hence the show mentioning how sad Elena was after Stefan left and Jenna died. They don't need to display that.
Elena might not fit the "textbook definition" of a heroine (whatever that is in your opinion) but I think that's a good thing. I don't want to see textbook characters, I want to see new ones. I often find characters' reactions on TV shows unrealistic and ridiculous and maybe Elena fits that description sometimes but I get over it because Elena's reactions don't interfere with my perception of the show. To me they are a detail that could've been used in a better way but is not essential to the show. Obviously we have different opinions and obviously you have no intention whatsoever to change yours so I'm going to stop trying. We can't change the show so we might as well accept its flaws and just get over it.

Queenbee94

SuzyQ, Bridget was only 6 months sober.

Queenbee94

Feeling the things she "was supposed to feel" now is not "too little, too late" but actually a human coping mechanism which seals all bad emotions into one's body but comes out at one point when the person cannot deal with their pain in quiet anymore. This might be the case, if Alaric really dies. Lastly, I'd like to point out that this is still a TV show we're talking about - Just like any other TV show it is unrealistic. Of course a lot of things happen within short time - anything else would be boring. Elena crying all the time would be a horrible plot.

Queenbee94

A very similar thing happened when Jenna died. With the time jump, Elena had enough time to come to terms with what happened. Everything that is happening in the rest of the series (Elena being kidnapped and learning about the curse and the role she plays in it) is shocking but it doesn't mean Elena needs to have a mental breakdown and battle depression. Elena is strong, that much we know.She needs to be a responsible sister to Jeremy and protect him, therefore she sometimes has to stay strong for him. Losing her birth parents probably wouldn't have had a huge impact on her life as they both treated her badly and she barely even knew them. Losing her parents and aunt Jenna surely was traumatic, but I don't think somebody who goes through that instantly needs to break down and have psychotic consequences.Losing someone you love very dearly is horrible but humans adjust to what has happened and are capable of moving on. Not forgetting, but moving on with their lives.
Feeling the things she "was supposed to feel" now is not "too little, too late" but actually a human coping mechanism which seals all bad emotions into one's body but comes out at one point when the person cannot deal with their pain in quiet anymore. This might be the case, if Alaric really dies. Lastly, I'd like to point out that this is still a TV show we're talking about - Just like any other TV show it is unrealistic. Of course a lot of things happen within short time - anything else would be boring. Elena crying all the time would be a horrible plot.

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