I miss sharing feedback with the group here,but like many others,I have dropped off with investment in the show after season 6. The series went into a real tailspin after 6x23. It presents that the new show runners are taking unnecessary risks with the new story lines just to shake things up which could result in a further drop in viewership quickly.
Not Trampis: You are going to love the "NoCaskett" season this fall.The new show runners continue to put out spoilers about the Beckett promotion to Captain as well as information on the new characters added to the cast for the season, but they are skipping the bad news. They are careful to give out the good news, but omit any comments about the future of Caskett. Most fans watching this season want to see a home life after waiting all this time for them to get married. Some viewers can appreciate a professional split, but not a split in their personal lives over some kind of safety concern for Castle himself. There is always hope that Caskett will return to its earlier dimensions, but unfortunately the ‘Break Up For Your Own Good’ trope (Bracken related) is coming in the early season. Let us hope it doesn’t last too long. I expected that TPWinter would come up with something much better for the season rather than a 'Love Conquers All' scenario forthcoming in the two-part premiere just to shake things up as he suggested in earlier interviews. It seems that the show runners are determined to keep Caskett apart as much as possible. "Now,it's about exploring the next evolution of it. How do we deepen that love story? What CHALLENGES can we put their way that can put their romance at a much higher, different place?" Even Marlowe wouldn’t do something (breakup) so deliberate to alienate the audience. He would just lie to fans about the direction because he knew fans would stop watching. As far as Castle working separately as a PI again, that same arc provided some of the lowest season 7 ratings in both the demo and in viewers.
Comment modified at August 29, 2015 07:00
The 7x13 sneak peek showing Castle working on his own and making mistakes will do little to help ratings. Castle has the forensic skills for sure to investigate fraud, divorce or murder, but he has never shown any self-defense skills needed to keep him safe if he happens to get involved with actual criminals. Regardless, Castle jumping over iron fences or the writers dressing him up in action hero attire, he still continues to be written out of character. The longer the PI arc continues, the less credible the story line. It appears that the PI premise is being used up to this point to fill episodes in order to avoid writing Caskett as a romantic couple as well the show runner wanting to focus just on Castle as a character to the extent that Marlowe has been keeping them apart on screen as much as possible. During the winter hiatus and while the PI arc has been running, I took the time to catch up with the new CBS show ‘Madame Secretary’. If Castle viewers want to watch how a normal married couple in love interacts on screen, I suggest they give the new show a look. Aside from the obvious political drama, the show is about a married couple dealing with family and career issues while the wife serves as the lead diplomat for the US government. I mention the show here because the married couple interaction between them in comparison with Caskett is stark and it defines how much lacking the Castle and Beckett interaction as a couple in love persists since the engagement and then the wedding. The lack of serious times between Castle and Beckett has gone on for so long that it has become a glaring issue even mentioned now by the TV reviewers and critics. On ‘Madame Secretary’, the husband (Henry) is a professor and religious author and the wife (Elizabeth) is a former CIA analyst. While working my way through the episodes, the interaction I observed between them as a married couple compared to what has been rationed out on Castle is amazing. Every episode has at least one bedroom scene which includes honest and realistic discussions over family and career issues and not just subtext filled with comedic sexual innuendo. Whenever they greet each another in a scene outside of the bedroom (kitchen, dining room, work place, park, etc.), they share a kiss. The male lead does not have any body image issues (he goes shirtless, bare shoulders or v-neck shirt in bed, no clothing layers or wearing shoes as well). I hope that the 7×13 episode written by TPWinter will be the end of the PI arc before the ratings drop further. Also, I hope that the 3XK story line is ended as well during the upcoming 2 – part episodes else Jerry Tyson risks becoming the ‘Bones’ super serial killer Pelant.
Comment modified at February 02, 2015 02:30
The writers never seem to worry about common sense. How did the mob know that the cop was the murderer? I don't recall Castle telling them. I wonder if Castle was banished from the precinct, not so much for hanging out with the mob, but because he was getting too close to uncovering further corruption in the department. Someone higher-up in the department may have criminal ties that Castle might reveal. In fact, someone higher up may have ordered the hit instead of the mob. Hence, my feeling that the writers might use Castle getting the politically connected suspect freed over the pet allergy as a possible twist which will allow him back at the precinct in a short period. That could be the reason the writers chose not to have anybody from the squad fight his banishment from the beginning.
Comment modified at January 20, 2015 07:00
I enjoyed 7x11 for the callback to ‘The Double Down’ for the most part, but that was all. Castle as a PI works for maybe two episodes at most. Beckett and the ‘boys’ find out about the ‘Castle as a PI’ makeover after a little drama and then Castle tags along trying to beat them on the case. The next week Castle gets a client who just happens to intersect with Kate's case and they get to work together. However, Castle and Beckett in competition and apart on screen any longer than a few episodes will further turn away the viewers. I noticed that ABC has moved back 7x13 (TPWinter) for one week until the first week of sweeps which gives me hope that the precinct lockout will be resolved before the two-part episodes. However, Castle opening his own office without first talking with Beckett portends that this could last longer. I did not care for Castle's smug attitude towards Kate when she first came to his new office. It was scripted by the writers that way for comedic reasons, but it was not mature and it shows disrespect on his part else Kate would not have raised her ring finger hand while asking about sharing among married people. It would have been better to tell her outwardly at the beginning that getting his license was for him the best way to continue working with her because of his banishment.The fact that Castle was still allowed back at the precinct in the episode at all makes little sense. The writers know that the audience wants them working together, but they continue to force the kind of scenarios on the lead characters that keep them apart. This must be a Marlowe mandate in order to keep the romantic part of the relationship at a minimum. It presents that ABC should redirect Marlowe's twisted thinking given how the ratings are slipping away so fast. The audience got some good Caskett romance time at the end, but in S7 it always seems to come in a comedic context. The murder suspect with political connections proven innocent by Castle using the pet allergy explanation presents as a nice twist for Castle coming back to the precinct. Recall in ‘Number One Fan’ that the writers used the same tact to get Kate her job back at the precinct by portraying the grateful estranged father of the hostage suspect as a regular golfing partner of the police commissioner.
Comment modified at January 18, 2015 07:00
"Beckett Already Married - Castle". Your comments are right on the mark. It is amazing that ABC would sit back and approve such a finale mess and further it is a shock that Marlowe was not fired from the series. The result of his arrogance has resulted in a big decline in ratings. According to Nielson, the show has lost 3+ million viewers this season since the premiere.
For a long time during the summer hiatus, I felt that the network must have been behind the stalled 6x23 wedding because no show producer would put out such a finale mess unless forced by management, but after what has transpired so far this season with the ‘only Castle’ story lines, AWM is at fault for the season 7 ratings. If NF wanted to start his own slapstick comedy series, he should have waited until Castle had run its course. A grown man in his forties, married to a beautiful, intelligent woman acting like a teenager is just so overdone. If you don’t have respect for yourself, at least show some respect for your wife. Why would a woman like Beckett even want to be married to someone who acts so childish? Castle acting giddy watching yuletide strippers in front of his wife, wearing action hero attire with cut-off sleeves and head band, acting out with small children in a classroom just seems so out of character for Castle at this point in the series. It is amazing that the network would sit back this long and let an arrogant show runner ruin a great series. The upcoming PI arc just seems like a deliberate attempt to keep them apart on screen in order to avoid writing the romantic part of the relationship after the long awaited wedding.
Comment modified at December 17, 2014 07:00
In a Marlowe interview during the hiatus, he misled fans by using “unsettled” todescribe Beckett’s emotional condition after the dramatic event that disrupted thewedding ceremony. He implied that something specific from the Castle back storywould cause issues. However, the whole premise of the premiere was just thesame old remix from the past about Beckett somehow having doubts and nottrusting Castle after all this time living together. The storyline presentedthat suddenly Castle got “cold feet” over the wedding which was just crazy.There was no way he would leave his family and let them believe he was hurt orkilled. I was expecting a scene with Alexis and Kate where Alexis just tellsBeckett to show some real trust and faith in her father after all this time. Ibet a scene like that was filmed, but cut from production to further enhanceKate’s misgivings over the Castle disappearance and to drive the contrivedstory. During the hiatus, Molly Quinn stated that there was tension between herand Kate, but it was never shown in the episode. If the writers continue further with the level of Caskett tension shown between them at the hospital reunion, itpresents that season 7 might be a loss. Marlowe loves to frustrate the audiencewith the angst, but it has gone on for so long that viewers have become indifferent.He refuses to let go of the WTWT scenario he feels so comfortable using sinceSeason 4 while he portends to move them forward as a married couple solvingcrimes. I think fans deserved much better for coming back after the hiatus. Nowonder the screener reports for the premiere were so different and confusing.Beckett with the finger crunch against the tow truck suspect during the precinctinterrogation was so overdone. After that, I was not sure what was coming nextfrom Amann. I guess the amnesia component is needed so that Castle will beable to recall bits and pieces of his ordeal during the season. I can’t imagine theshow holding the audience into the season past episode 3 given that the fanswatched a premiere with zero answers,more questions and too many loose ends.
Comment modified at October 05, 2014 07:00
That kind of thinking has allowed Marlowe to drag the love relationship out since Season 4. You can tell the story your way, but it has to be something that people will watch. He has kept the audience this long by promising to never break them up, but the problem with that promise is that without them working together solving cases, there would be no show at all. So, that accomplishment means nothing. The 6x23 finale was crap and the "new" mythology is just an obvious way to avoid as long as possible writing them as a married couple solving cases. It has nothing to do with the fans not wanting to see new stories or take new roads.
Comment modified at September 22, 2014 02:36
Delay;Stall;Delay. After reading all the confusing and different screener reports from those watching the same thing, Marlowe and Amann working together as co-show runners looks kind of scary right now as S7 moves forward. Marlowe put that “unsettled” word out there to get the angst started with the audience which he knows stirs up and frustrates the fans. It presents as a deliberate attempt to sabotage the season for other projects. What kind of EP writes scripts that he knows will lose audience? The viewers being exposed to more of Beckett doubting Castle is just pathetic. Anything from the Castle past that would put Kate or his family at risk should have already been discussed before the wedding day. That is just common decency. If there is an issue with your past, take steps to keep your family safe. Any secrets still held between them now is just unrealistic at this point in the relationship. Maybe what needs to happen is that the viewer numbers for 7x1 and 7x2 drop to rerun level numbers (4-5 million) in order to force changes by the network. Casual viewers are not going to hang around very long waiting for a wedding while Marlowe gets his mythology story on track.
Comment modified at September 22, 2014 07:00
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