Love this episode…Cersei has gone unchecked for too long and she doesn't think things out. Can't wait for next week…Oh Tyrion your sister cut off her nose to spite her face when she framed you for murder….you are the most brilliant of the Lannisters children, she is a fool...
I am a big fan of Adam Kaufman and think he's not on television nearly often enough (especially as Affairs of State has been canceled), so he is my very favorite guest star on this show. I was happy to see that Jack & Amanda could be friends and that he could spend quality time with his son.
Guess I'm the only one disappointed with the Sansa storyline. But I saw an interview with the showrunners just yesterday. They underlined AGAIN how Sansa is, in their opinion, a strong player of the game, one in her own right. I can't see that. At all!To be honest, Sansa has always been one of my favourite characters, even in season 1 when everybody hated her. So I was of course delighted when last season, she started to learn and make small steps (lying to her aunt about Littlefinger, manipulating the lords of the Vale, seeing Littlefinger's motives). But despite the fact the showrunners claim Sansa to be one of their favourites and finally becoming a strong(er) woman, all we got up to this point is her being even more victimized and betrayed. Maybe the writers are doing this so her 'bad*ss moment' will be more shocking / surprising. But to me, all this dragging out is doing quite the opposite. At this point when Sansa finally does something cunning / brave, I won't be shouting 'YAY, you've done it girl' it will be more of an irritated 'finally, took them long enough'... I don't know why, but for some reason the pace this season is bothering me. I remember it wasn't any different in last seasons (much build-up during the first half, then picking up speed until the jaw-dropping episode 9: behading of Ned Stark, battle of Blackwater, Red Wedding, battle at Castle Black). Still, I can't help but feel frustrated because it seems like I've only watched three episodes of story development, not seven.
I agree, the pacing is WAY off this season. We're near the finish line and everything up to now has felt like set up. This is the first episode that brought back the old Game of Thrones excitement for me. Hopefully, the next three will be just as strong and the season ends on a high note.
I kept thinking this feels like 3 episodes IN, not only 3 episodes LEFT! We just got started! Plus, we skipped what was basically my FAVORITE storyline from the books that is kind of integral to right now (Griff/Young Griff). If it was going to happen, you'd think it would have had to happen by now, and it plays into multiple prophesies, so... ???? I had really held high hopes that not having much from the books to go from on part of this wouldn't screw up the TV part much, but I'm afraid I'm let down.
Quaithe talked of a mummer's dragon which I took to mean that the Griff storyline wasn't true - he wasn't a true Targaryen. Maybe this is why the Griff storyline was left out.
Ooh. That's an interesting point. I assumed that to be Viserys since he couldn't handle the molten gold.
I'm still enjoying the show but do agree with the frustration, way too many story lines to deal with. Hardly saw any Jon this episode and hadn't seen Danny in a while. Have to say Sam/Gilly have never been that interesting to me. Sansa still being victimized and Arya hasn't been in this season much at all.
trust me you not the only one. I almost feel like theres just something lacking in this season its as if they are not giving us nearly enough as the viewers
I feel ya. Everything is so slow! Its Jon's storyline that gets me the most interested but lately it seems like they are just dragging everything. The last 3 eps better be a bomb! I was expecting Sansa to be much stronger this season too considering where we left of with her last season but she's become much more of a victim than ever before.
I really enjoyed this show. It made my Sunday nights of Once Upon a Time and Secrets and Lies complete. I'll give a little shootout to Liza Lapira, whom I have liked since that episode on NCIS when she & Jimmy Palmer disappeared under an autopsy table. . .Anyway, I had thought of Josh Duhamel as a pretty face, but he's more than that. And Dean Winters is awesome! Loved it, loved it, loved it!
Great review! Yes I was glad to see Cersei start to get hers after all the evil she has done to so many people... Not sure how the High Sparrow will be taken down but the cult storyline is already boring me a little. Next week should be great seeing Tyrion and Dany finally talk after all these years... maybe shell stop being such a dumb and emotional queen.
She is emotional, but I don't think she is dumb. Dany is learning from her mistakes you know? No one taught her how to be Queen, she's doing her best. I can't wait for the big conversation next week!
I bet they do a batman beyond type thing with gibbs and the team
This was definitely one of the better episodes of the season once it finally picked up half way through. I just knew Theon wouldn't help Sansa. But I think there still could be a glimmer of hope for him. Now one of the big questions left for this season---Will we see Cersei's Walk of Shame? And what will Tommen do when he learns his mother has been jailed? Lady Olenna better watch Littlefinger. He's not to be trusted........... Hopefully these last three episodes will pick up the pace even more..........
--- SPOILER --- The walk has been confirmed. There was even a youtube video, filmed by an extra or whoever, showing how the filming was done (though you couldn't see Cercei herself, you only caught a short glimpse of her). --- SPOILER END ---
Just because some "extra" supposedly posted it on YouTube doesn't automatically mean we will see it. Ever heard of editing? or scenes ending up on the cutting room floor? Won't believe it until it's actually shown on the show.............
Why would they film the walk of shame and then delete the absolute climax of Cercei's storyline? It's one thing to cut small scenes which aren't important to the character's journey. It's a very different level to cut one of the most anticipated scenes of the whole series!
Again, just because it's posted on Youtube doesn't mean it's actually going to happen. Do I want it to? YES, just like everyone else does---it's past time for Cersei to get her come uppance. But I won't believe it until it's actually shown on the show..................
I haven't read the books, can you tweet me more info? @hanko9 I don't mind spoilers at all. Love hearing how the show and books differ.
Henry can you PLEASE look into REMOVING the NUMEROUS bot postings here???????? It's annoying..............
I have reported and flagged them several times and nothing. Mentioned it to my editor, let's see if they can do something about it.
No mention of the big decision facing Stannis? I want Stannis to win Winterfell... but he Can't kill Shireen... right? That is a doozy right there...
I completely bypassed Stannis since I think it's a safe bet he'll take Winterfell. There's no way he will kill his daughter. Did Melissandre say she had a vision about that? I need to rewatch the episode.
I think the most dangerous thing here is that Melisandre said something like 'you will betray your family' (not sure when it happened exactly, but I think it was when they were still at Dragonstone). Didn't they even show that scene in this episodes' 'previously on got'? Let's assume for a minute Stannis' army won't be able to move on, due to the weather. Or more soldiers desert. He then has to decide to either sacrifice his claim and the lives of the people around him OR to sacrifice his only child to make sure the Boltons will meet their end.My problem with this theory is - why would Stannis bother himself with fighting the Boltons / White Walkers / everyone in his way to the Iron Throne if there is no Baratheon heir left?
It quite similar predicament that Agamemnon faced when he had the wrath of Artemis prevent him and his armies from sailing to Troy and the only way to satisfy Artemis was for Agamemnon to sacrifice his daughter (which he did). He does win the war but when he gets home his wife murders him out of revenge for their slain daughter. Ultimate difference is like you put it what would be the point of this as Stannis would have no heirs.
That's an interesting comparison, CC.
CC, I'm starting to wonder if that's the exact inspiration for this development in Stannis. If so, we can almost see exactly what will happen to him. Capture the Iron Throne, only to be killed by Selyse.
The show has strayed from the books re: Shireen and the Queen accompanying Stannis on his march to Winterfell. This stray from the books makes me suspect that Shireen might be at risk...just imo. We'll see!
Selyse is even more of a fanatic than Stannis ever was. I remember the silent nod between Melisandre and Selyse in one of the previous episodes when talking about Shireen. I'd be surprise if she ever opposes sacrificing her daughter.
she said she needs kings blood, leeches will not do... I assume the catch is a life/death decision.
Shireen is a stand-in for a different baby that we never saw. I was SHOCKED at that point.
I really hope Shay doesn't turn out to be bad cus I love Ksenia Solo
I applaud you Henry. You are one of only a few critics that got why Tyene seduced Bronn: Now he ows her one.. and since he never would have injested anything she gave him without proof of his poisoning she had to speed the poison up by raising his heart rate. I thurrowly enjoyed this episode. As a book reader, I was waiting for Cercei to get her due all season.. knowing about it in advance did not harm the experience at all. So much cathartic release. Wonderful! And how much fun was the Queen of Thorns? Her bluntness is so refreshing. Esspecially in this world where so few people seem to say what they think. For next week:I'm looking forward to seeing Danny interact with Tyrion. I wonder what exactly Sansa took from the barrel.
A key maybe? she gets locked in the room all day and night
Seems for an odd place to put that specific key. my money is on some kind of a knife, awl or shiv. Basically anything to stab the bastard.
Thanks so much! It made sense she was up to something. Having read the books do you know what she gets from Bronn? I love the Queen of Thorns, she has always had the best lines. Didn't Sansa swipe a blade? I need to rewatch the episode, but I thought it was some kind of weapon. Death to Ramsay!
I would love to tell you, but the writers strayed very far from the books when it comes to all the Dornish plots. Those scenes are new to me. Yes, Sansa swipes something off a barrel at 12:11. After having rewatched it, the tool looks like a awl to me.
I believe it was a corkscrew. Would do the trick in the ear, eye, heart, throat (just daydreaming about all the ways she could kill Ramsay)
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