I really liked this episode, I totally disagree with you. Obviously it wasn't enjoyable to watch, it was horrible, but the acting was so incredible, particularly in the scene with Mary and Catherine in the throne room, and I think it presented a really powerful, important message; that horrific things like rape can happen to strong, confident, admirable women like Mary, because it can, it's not people on the periphery or bad people who are raped it happens to all kinds of women, and that women like this can have the strength to rise above it and move past it and not let it define them. i thought it was beautifully done, although it was very difficult to watch. Also I dunno if I agree with you about Conde, I think he left because he's in love with Mary. I don't think he'd ever want to/allow anyone to hurt Mary, I really think he loves her.
he didn't think Mary would get hurt. They were coming for francis. And w/e he feels for mary isn't more than the love he has for his family.
Well I'm French, so this show was always ridiculously inaccurate to me. I don't see how a rape is more inaccurate than being crowned into one's own castle instead of the Reims cathedral, the fact that they english-ized all the names (really, people, Francis's real name was François) or than the gorgeous but ridiculous costumes. This is pure fiction, and some of the characters happen to have the names of people who existed, that's all. You can't do looser in term of historical fiction, and that's okay. It's all about entertainment, not about a history lesson. Now, for the rape story line. I don't see how it is disgraceful, or "too horrific". Rape is a horrible, terrifying thing. That's the way the scene should make you feel. If you felt horribly uncomfortable and distressed, then congratulations, you have empathy. They murder and torture people all the time in this show, but suddenly, rape crosses a line? On the contrary, I feel it was brave of the show runners to have it happen to the main character. In real life, it does not only happen to "others". Sure, the next message of "Hide it or you'll be a victim all your life and lose your power" was not what I would have liked, but they did a good job of giving it a historical context and somehow already putting Mary in an empowering position. Her scenes with Catherine were great, acting was excellent from both actresses. I'm also not super happy about the revenge seeking story line, but it's perfectly understandable in the midst of distress. This is why, in modern societies, victims don't do justice by themselves. I hope the distinction will be made clear in the next episode, and that they will continue to handle this story line in a sensitive manner. It may not be comfortable, but if it forces people to look at sexual violence in the eyes and starts a conversation, then I'm all for it.
The Castle silliness needs to stop. Focus on the new, serious mythology for a while. Castle the Buffoon is getting old.
I agree... Castle always being silly needs to stop! I was just watching an episode from I think season 2 the other day.. and he seemed way more mature then he does now... I wish they would tell us where he was for those 2 months
Were we watching the same episode because to me Elena was the biggest pain in the ass (per usual) as she ever was. I mean seriously, how did the show some how flip the script and its all about Elena wanting to save the best friend you know Bonnie her forgotten friend because Elena was to wrecked with whiny emotions over losing Damon to think or care about anyone else. Damon was already planning on getting Bonnie home before Elena knew, and actually I was sort of annoyed that she got to tag along. I would have much preferred Damon did it alone or had taken Caroline, if she was in this episode because she at least acted like you know the "best" friend who actually did some leg work and research in trying to bring her back! I can't with these writers cause they have an exciting gold mine of a story to tell with Damon and Bonnie, yet they are making it all about lame ass Elena again. Yes, Bonnie has a "selfless" soul and Elena has a "selfish" one, soon as arriving she's talking about "her" parents, hello they are there for Bonnie (as Damon had to remind her). She finds out that Damon is doing whatever he can to get "his" friend back and suddenly he's doing it so Bonnie can help Damon get "her" back, do you see a pattern forming here. Only good parts of this episode was Bonnie, Damon talking about Bonnie, Damon doing everything in his power to rescue Bonnie, Bonnie's acting and Damon's look of sincere sadness at not being able to bring Bonnie home (funniest was Damon fighting off Kai to make sure he couldn't stop them while Elena burned and he didn't even notice it. No I'm not mean but the one time it might have needed to be about her Damon's thoughts were again about Bonnie). So yeah, I think you and I must have watched this episode with an entirely different view of Elena the not so best friend after all!
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thanks you for calling these writers out on their crap. Conde doesn't want the crown for his self but for his older brother, the king of navarre he mentioned at the beginning of the episode
Don't know WHO it will be but I know who I want it to be - A-hole Officer BEN! Haven't like him since his first appearance. After that, get rid of Daniel. Victoria will last until the end of this season and tyhe series will end.
The experiment that the victim did is completely pointless its just an exact replica of the Milgram study (with no credit to him) and there is no way that you could even get ethical clearance to do that study today.
Odd that they didn't just credit it as him changing it in some way or something... but they have repeated it https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
i'm a ''diehard'' castle fan but a little disappointed in this episode.it wasn't just castle not getting how beckett was feeling nostalgic about leaving her apartment,but we all know that castle is an endearing ''manchild'' he was like a fifteen year old.the writers need to tone him down,i miss the more mature castle,wouldn't hurt to put a little more romance in these episodes,we waited so long for these two to get together..
Maybe Emily is willing to come back but David isn't and they are trying out a new partner. There sure seems to be a lot of Aubrey since they introduced him. I know the ratings have continued to be good. That is good and bad to me. Could mean more Bones. Could mean they don't have to put Booth and Brennan together more. I'm just hanging on hoping they will eventually get them back together on screen more.
That's it for me with this show. I don't expect it to be a documentary, but it has to be somewhere in the ball park of reality. I was turned off when Mary and Francis became at odds, and this just did it for me. Off my DVR list it goes.
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