I'm not sure if anyone else said this, but if they couldn't identify the guy as Jerry Tyson, why didn't they try and match the "Michael Bourdreaux's" DNA with his close relative's DNA? That way they could maybe conclude that he is not the man he says he is, that he is not Michael Bourdreaux.
Perry and Ray are the best part of this show. 2 professional stalkers - giving us a birdseye view of how stalker's talk and think (according to the writers). If the show is cancelled they should give these two their own show (or movie) - - - and make sure to put Maria Klaveno in it - she's sensationally sexy!
I actually do think Gabriel could have been psychic, just as Jane is a little more psychic than he feels like admitting to himself after Red John. Red John and Jane's old colleague Sean Barlowe and Kristina Frye had their psychic moments as well. Maybe some of them are a little bit like the psychic in the Harry Potter books who's only right once or twice in her life and the rest of the time she's an old fraud. Jane took that extraordinary sensitivity as a starting point and embellished it and used it to con people. Some of the things he's done are darned near impossible otherwise, even for a person who is extraordinarily observant. But then I also thought Kristina Frye really did make fleeting contact with the hovering ghost of Angela Jane, who was trying her level best to comfort her husband by telling him that Charlotte never woke up and was never afraid. And I thought the belladonna tea Jane inadvertently poisoned himself with lowered his guard enough to make it possible for him to see the actual ghost of Charlotte, not her hallucination. And neither Ghost Angela or Ghost Charlotte Jane had any interest in Red John and did not want their father/husband to continue seeking revenge or to avoid living his life. They would want him to marry Teresa Lisbon and live in a cabin by a duck pond and maybe start a new family, if that's in the cards. I think Jane has their blessing and probably a "What took you so long?" But that's my world view, rather than that of the writer/producers. I still think they've left it somewhat open to interpretation. The final scene with dead Gabriel reminded me of an old X-Files episode.
Thank you for your answer about the X-Files.I believe in God and afterlife and now it's a conscious choise because it helps me to struggle any difficulties which i face every single day.It's a kind of relief for me.About the baptism of their child( if they'' have one) probably Patrick wouid have no problem.Teresa has already made a step back.As we can see in photos a judge married them and not a priest.
I'm sorry about your son, rational gal. I guess I don't find an atheistic worldview particularly comforting, but the show seems open to different interpretations. Certainly, Jane has on occasion reacted angrily and mockingly when the subject of faith came up, which is a notable contrast to his current demeanor. I thought at the time that the scene in the church showed how "off" he was, how nihilistic, after six months of trying to smoke out Red John. He knew Lisbon was praying for him and wanted to tell her there was no point to it, that no one was listening. He also spoke AS God at a point when he was preparing for the role of executioner, taking into his own hands the power of life and death. The episode with teenage Charlotte wasn't long after that. I see it as ghost Charlotte trying to talk some sense into him, humoring him that she's a hallucination because that's what he can accept. Others certainly could see it as his subconscious trying to do the same thing, with help from the belladonna. I am still sorry that the show allowed Jane to actually kill Red John. I think it would have been more interesting if Red John had been captured and imprisoned or perhaps killed by Lisbon or one of the other officers and Jane had been forced to come to terms with that situation. Lisbon's world view should have prevailed. But at least Jane didn't yield to his nihilistic impulse by killing himself as well. He isn't quite so unbalanced now or Lisbon wouldn't be able to live with him. As far as Lisbon and a judge at the ceremony goes, I would say she is a lapsed Catholic and not a regular churchgoer. She would probably want a baptism anyway because it's tradition in her family, assuming there's a child at some point. I don't know that there will be, given her age. It's certainly just as likely that Lisbon is content to be an aunt and doesn't want her own children.
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I believe that the hallucination of his daugter was more like the voice of his conscience and she removed in surface emotions and thoughts that not even himself realized that he had.They were burried deep in his soul.It was easier for him to realize some things because was helped by the most beloved person in his life.This made it more acceptable although it took him many years to find some kind of peace in his life and most in his mind.However it is interesting and weird the fact that Patrick doesn't believe in afterlife but desperately wants to communicate with his daughter's spirit.I have pretty much the same world view with you.Real life sometimes is very hard and unfair so I do prefer happy endings in tv series.I can't see deaths,pain and cries at the finales.I'm a huge fan of the X-Files.Do you remember in which season was that episode?
There was an X-Files episode where psychics were being killed, something with Clyde Bruckman in the title. I believe in God and an afterlife and spiritual dimension to life, so that colors my view here. I doubt Jane was raised with any faith to speak of, judging by what we saw of his father, but he seems to have picked up the trappings of Buddhism along the way. Buddhists can be atheists, but I think there are some schools that believe in a peaceful and happy afterlife, like Pure Land Buddhism. There was an episode where Jane sent a flower on the ocean as a message to Angela and Charlotte and another where he said he talks to his wife. While I think in most moments he does not believe in a deity, there are others where he is just very angry at God. Remember Jane crawling in the church and speaking as God, spooking Lisbon who was there to pray for him? It reminded me of how adamant he was about not being a real psychic, but a fraud. why should he believe in a God that let his wife and child die so horribly? There's quite a contrast between his mockery there and his respectful demeanor this season when he said he doesn't find Lisbon's belief in an afterlife foolish, even though he doesn't believe in one. He seems more at peace with himself, more grounded. I would say there are times when he knows on some level that his family is at peace (in Charlotte's beautiful garden, perhaps.) The anger and revenge were his desires, not theirs. But if he does end up having a child with Lisbon, I wonder how he will react when Lisbon wants the child baptized, as she probably will. I would guess he may be enough at peace that he will allow it, though not without some gentle mockery, as a gesture towards family belonging.
Just thought I'd clarify some things about atheists, since I am one and, like all other atheists I know, find the atheistic worldview comforting as well as liberating. Jane's actions are totally in line with how atheists view the world. We don't need a god but we realize some people do and that's OK as long as they don't try to impose their beliefs on everyone. We have a lot of problems in society because of that. Neither Lisbon the believer nor Jane the nonbeliever do that. They accept each other's worldview as who they are and sometimes go along with the other's view because they care about each other. Jane tossing that flower on the ocean is much like what a lot of atheists would do, not because we see any real connection to our loved one but to make us feel the connection we once had. I know from experience. I had a son who died. My daughter made a point of bending over his face when they "pulled the plug" to let drops of her tears fall on it. Those tears carried our family's DNA and it was like all of us being with him as he went out of existence. It's just being human and caring about other people. if Jane and Lisbon have a child and she wants it baptized, Jane would probably go along with it just because it makes Lisbon happy, no other reason.
First of all I'm deeply sorry for your lose and I do hope you've found relief and comfort to your life.I consciously believe in God but I really understand your view on the point of faith and I totally respect that.Ofcourse I won't try to impose my belief to you because its my personal matter not others.Even my self sometimes I'm thinking that it is very difficult to continue someone to beieve in the existence of God with all that is happening in the world.And in a sense itis really liberating being an atheist.Once I fell madly in love.Nothing happened but we decided to stay friends.We didn't because of me.We never talked again.I regret it but it was too late.That person died in a car accident.I didn't go to the funeral and I've never been to the grave but is on my daily prayer.I prefer to think that has gone somewhere else not like afterlife like a long journey without returning.I agree with all you've written about Teresa and Patrick.
As a believer I have no problem with an atheist's worldview because it's his matter not mine.I chose to believe and I feel very good with that.I do believe that people have suconscious in which might have buried a number of thoughts and feelings in order to avoid a possible pain in their minds or in their soul.I don't know if Teresa is lapsed Catholic perhaps you've got a point to that.If she wants a baptism just because is tradition in her family sounds pretty much logical to me.I think isn't too old to have at least one child.In my opinion Patrick has a nihilistic world view because of his experiences that had started from his childhood and continued as an adult.His father was a fraud who tricked people in order to take their money.Later his family was murdered by Red John.I understand why he took the path of atheism and nihilism.He was angry with the God and he chose to deny his existence.Ofcourse I'd prefer to take the path of faith but I suppose that wouldn' serve the plot of the series.About the fact Red John was killed by Patrick I prefer to take it as ''an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth'' than a cold blood execution which it was.I don't like either of them.
I don't think Jane was ever a candidate for belief in organized Christianity. He knows too much about the art of the con and he probably wasn't brought up with it. I do think he might at some point have had a version of Pure Land Buddhist take on religion which might have enabled him to believe Angela and Charlotte were OK somewhere in certain moments. By nihilism, i don't mean all atheism. I suppose I mean he was self destructive and willing to destroy anything In his path to reach his goal of killing Red John. But he wasn't willing to risk Lisbon, which means he was not truly nihilistic.
Yes, I suppose I agree with you in the point that Patrick wasn't willing to sacrifice Teresa in order to catch and ofcourse to kill Red John.I'm not sure how he came to these beliefs about faith and life.Besides he was part of a travelling circous so he had the opportunity to come in contact with many different people and this could mean many things.Sorry but because english isn't my native language I have an extra difficulty to express my exactly thoughts especially in an issue such is religions and faith.
I enjoyed the episode, but I felt the destruction of this perfect thing created hundreds of years ago for only Ichabod and Abbie was absurd. If they were going to go with that, they should've made destroying it an absolute necessity. I understand we don't want our heroes to have all the answers, and they shouldn't, but at least make the creatures virtually impossible to kill. Make the creatures so fearsome that they have no alternative but to sacrifice the goods. Let the bullets harm them, but let the creatures pop back up. SOMETHING! They were frightening but hardly formidable. Seriously, the decision to destroy was too easy. It's like when a show uses destroying money as a trope. I literally have to change the channel because I cannot watch people burn the money or drop it in the ocean, etc. Drives me nuts! I was getting the same burning frustration while watching this episode, and I've never felt that way watching this show--even during those painful Katrina scenes!
I've always wanted to see Liz in a new arc after her storyline ended in season 3 , after that we were barely see her and it's sad that her new storyline was her death, I loved her scenes though especially her scenes with Damon and I liked the fact he opened up with her and told her about his mother .I loved Elena and Jeremy scenes too and them bonding together is what I'm going to miss the most after Jeremy's leaving which is by the way really surprising that he's actually going to hunt vampires and not to art school, I didn't see that coming at all.I agreed with you about putting a stake in Enzo's arc, it's make no sense and it's totally pointless.And I just can't ship Staroline, I don't see any chemistry. And Miranda, your description about Alaric's situation is hilarious .
I feel like we haven't actually seen Ellie + Andy's kid in a while now too ...
I loved this episode.Probably one of my favorites!I especially loved from the moment Louis told Mike he never said sorry, until the end of the episode. I loved how Louis and Mike were after that.I liked seeing Troian too!
I was tired of the Katherine thing, they killed off Damon. I know they brought him back, but I am tired of people dying and coming back too. I liked Damon and Elena together, and it is just a bunch of drama now. Too much like a soap opera! The show needs to be taken off, it is at the point of no return. No way to save the show now, it is crap!
I have a theory what if when Oliver go and fight Ra's again but with Thea this time:-He’s not coming back. He’ll fight Ra’s al Ghul to a draw ,and Ra’s will offer an alternative–Oliver is to join the League or he’ll kill Thea, and Oliver will agree. Then next season will be all about getting Oliver out of the League while Felicity dates Stalker Ray and Diggle becomes the new Arrow
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