It's "lease on life"...not "lease of life"
It's sad. The audience waited so long for them to get together and now they're being written apart. I wonder if the writers want this show to be cancelled because that's the direction they're going. What a shame to destroy a show. I used to look forward to Monday. Now I'll catch up on my reading. Bye Kate. Bye Castle. I'll check back in a few weeks to see if the direction of the show changed.
I was so excited we got Simmons back too. I remember thinking oh come on, don't do this to us, that's so cliche! Then "wait, he has her! he doesn't have her! he has her! ARGGH!" lol. Needless to say, I was very pleased with how it came out. And I audibly "awwwwww"ed at her resting her head in his lap <3. I forgot ALL about Randolph! I too didn't catch the Skye/Daisy thing until everyone else pointed it out. Two things I did note that were posted as questions either in comments or in the review. Why did Fitz send the flare? Originally, Coulson sent it for light, because Fitz was trying to see. It was too dark and he couldn't see anything. Did they mean send it through? Not sure. Awfully serendipitous if no. Why could Daisy hear it? I don't think it was just b/c of her sensitivity to sound. It' supposed to be able to kill inhumans (not just suck them into a portal), isn't it? Inhumans probably operate at a different frequency and are therefore affected differently? That's just my hunch though - I don't have any proof of that or a reason to substantiate it. I'm so torn about Ward. I LOVE the character, and liked his legit redemption, but as Marissa pointed out too, we can't just go that path. I like him as a baddie, but a baddie that our biggest hero has an old "thing" for :) Do you think May's ex is intentionally sandbagging Daisy's team? It kind of seems that way to me. Can someone remind me what is meant by Ward being responsible for May's dad? Wonder what's going to happen with the teen. He pleasantly (and wickedly) surprised me. I'm just so impressed by this season to date. Oh, and I just loooove Lincoln. SO ready for him to join them.
Regarding Daisy's team: I don't think May's ex is deliberately shooting down every candidate out of some hidden motive. I actually agree with him that most of the candidates (if they're in a similar emotional state to Joey) probably really aren't ready to join the team. This is why they need to bring Luke into the fold. First, because he's already at peace with his powers. Second, because he has plenty of experience easing other people into theirs. Daisy's trying her best, but she only has her own limited personal experience to go by.
Didn't they say before that Joey is the only one they've actually gotten to? I thought Lash got to all the rest first. So I recall her saying he was basically just shooting everyone of their prospects down, but who else could there have been...?
The FitzSimmons moments were so sweet! I loved her looking to him for comfort at the end! I think the thing with May and Ward was that Hunter was assuming Ward ran her dad down. May was pretending to be in denial about it because she didn't want to get back in. But of course, it's in her blood to get involved! Can't wait to see her back in action, for sure! And I'm with you on Ward, he's just too good as a bad guy!
You don't say why exactly this episode is an improvement over the last season? This article seems to be more of a synopsis and a guesstimate of what might happen rather than an actual review. What I just saw was a plot that is increasingly losing more and more credibility and is outweighing the incredible performance the actors are bringing to the table. However, given the jokes made in that episode, it seems the writers are aware of this. I would love to elaborate on this, but it would certainly go way beyond the scope and length of a simple comment. I'd love to write a personal review of this episode to be honest. Something that goes back to the last season and also reviews the direction this show has been headed. This is an idea that I have had when arrow took a turn for the worst (the resolving of the literal cliffhanger in season 3), but it seems to be a more and more pressing issue now.
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It's an improvement because the team is back together, the relationship is out on the table and the dance seems to be over. We can move on from that and deal with other issues. It felt as if the story (prior to the closing minutes) was aware of the need to do this, but then threw a wet blanket on top of the promise, leaving us unable to fully enjoy the tease of an integrated, operational Team Arrow, because something terrible is on the table. (I decided not to contemplate the idea of the Lazurus pit erasing the closing death since Oliver was at a grave. At some point, someone has to die for goodness sakes.)
A quick list of a few things I've noticed:-Apparently no one really cared about Ray's "death". They just moved on. I mean, Felicity slept with that guy, at least have some sympathy for a dead person. (Oliver apparently does have it on other funeral occasions).-So Damien walks into some meeting and plays the creepy card. And he can just what, move out? Didn't anyone find that weird?-Back in flashback-land, Oliver seemed to have completely forgotten how to fight. He's been almost killed by a thug (how he was not electrocuted is a mystery - get it? - for itself), after throwing down his bow as soon as he shot the first and only arrow in that very short fight.-Oliver to Felicity "I don't care if you lie to me as long as you're with me". What?-How the train mysteriously stops during the "imma blow it up" scene. I mean, okay, it's a tv show. Whatever I guess.-Introducing mystic. The show was at a pretty stupid point at the end of the last season, narratively speaking. Oliver defeated the strongest man alive (how this ultimately happened, including other circumstances, well I'm not going into that one now). How do you want to advance from this? Please keep in mind, that the series was actually intended to not include supernatural elements (Guggenheim was strictly against it) and therefore created a universe/scenery that in its narrative does not fuse with the changes made later. I feel the conflict there every time something supernatural is happening in the show. This also creates the problem of a shifting viewership.-Where did the parachute go? This is all just on top of my head. I feel motivated to actually take notes during the next episode to document my viewer experience. But I understand what you said. You were merely referring to the story moving forward and therefore needing the established, old character setup. I was thinking this was about the overall quality of the writing.
u thought Flash premiere was awesome bt arrow is satisfying..!! ur bias ass is showing it's color bitch
Flash was great arrow was meh
i agree smh. flash premiere was better but arrow was decent .
I hope u get banned i don't want to see comments like this on the forum again
I actually thought this was one of the better episodes. It was interesting and I found myself invested in the characters this week.
I'm glad that you enjoyed the episode! Honestly, I don't expect everyone out there to share my opinions. Makes the world much more interesting, doesn't it?
Glad to hear others are truly disappointed with the turn of events this season. I will never trust again that Kate's character won't make me angry again. And, I think it's awful to show characters that invite other characters to walk all over them! I used to like both of these characters. Deleted the show about ten minutes in. Goodbye Castle!
I live in new Zealand . NCIS starts here in Late January so we are half a season behind when we get the 1st episode. :) I could go online and buy the episodes immediately but I like reading the reviews first. Then when I watch I am more settled and have lots of fans thoughts to view the episode with.
We just got the finale in the UK tonight. The whole thing was awesome. I'm sure a season 3 must be on the cards, because the brothers both flying off to get to Alex and Lucifer just getting out of his mushy pit saying "its time" is no way to end the story. So much more left to tell, I'll be so pissed if this show doesn't get renewed. They make some absolute drivel these days, to lose something this well written, acted and visually beautiful in favour of the over abundance of vampire and space stories we seem to be getting these days would be a crying shame.
Somewhat belated my thoughts on this ep following your really well thought out review. Sorry it's so long - following the promo I had hopes for a really great episode but with the exception of a couple of scenes, for me it didn't live up to expectation and I had a lot to get off my chest. Firstly I was confused as to how much time was supposed to have passed since last week's episode. The way Bishop and McGee were discussing Gibbs' change of appearance I'd have said just a day or two, but Gibbs is back in charge of the team and out in the field, which felt more like a couple of weeks than a few days. I was also completely flummoxed as to why Gibbs was benching DiNozzo. What was he supposed to have done? Had he been too attentive to Gibbs needs, hovering over him at crime scenes - as Gibbs said to Taft, waiting for him to break? Perhaps missing the needs of the rest of the team and the case at hand? Maybe. But if that were the case couldn't we have seen something to that effect or at least been told it was going on, otherwise we were given absolutely no reason for Gibbs to bench him and therefore it made no sense. And DiNozzo's plaintive "are you benching me Boss" just made me cringe. For God's sake, he's in his late 40's - but DiNozzo sounded like a whiney 10 year old told he's benched from a ball game. I adore MW, but sometimes just wish he'd play the role like he did the Tony of the early seasons. However, I did enjoy the scenes with Gibbs and DiNozzo - we don't get enough of them these days, with Gibbs always going to anyone else but Tony when a heart to heart is required - Mike Franks, Ducky, Vance, Fornell, etc. I particularly loved the autopsy scene. Seeing Tony stand his ground was a complete joy, as was Tony's later statement that he was done following orders. About time in my book, though I was surprised that Gibbs didn't call Tony out on it later. However, I couldn't quite understand what Gibbs was getting at in the last scene at his house. Does Tony need an exact reason for wanting to lead the team? He became a law enforcement officer after saving the child in Baltimore and joined NCIS after meeting Gibbs. And Tony has been a leader - back in the old days he used to be a great leader. He lead the team, and did it well when Gibbs was on his Mexican hiatus, and was fantastic when he took charge in "Bait" and had the lives of Gibbs, a young boy and a classroom of students in his hands. And if Gibbs is referring to Tony's personal life, considering his track record with women I actually think Tony's doing rather well. He's lost every woman he's ever cared for: his mum, Kate, Paula, Jenny (on his watch) Jeanne, Ziva - it's a surprise he's not a gibbering idiot. I did wonder if following Gibbs' third brush with death (i.e., Desert Storm, the explosion on the ship & Luke) he had finally realised that taking retribution in the way he did with Hernandez and Mishnev is not the answer - highlighted by the fact that he wanted Mitch to take Long down legally. Perhaps he thought Tony should have arrested Budd rather than shooting him, but Gibbs told Tony that it wasn't to do with Iraq, so that doesn't explain why he's so frosty with Tony either. The only one who seems to know the answer is Ducky. What is Gibbs new found view? That he's thinking of leaving? But again as you said, that doesn't tie in with what Kelly said in Gibbs' dream. And what is it that Tony needs to come to terms with it - if he doesn't know Gibbs' "problem" in the first place. However, despite being so cryptic it was a really nice scene between Gibbs and Ducky, and I was pleased and pleasantly surprised that Ducky has gone back to referring to Tony as "Anthony" something he always used to do, (along with calling Abby "Abigail") but something he's not as I recall done for a while now. Maybe one of the writers took the time to research some old eps during their hiatus. In fact, been so long since he called him Anthony it took me a moment to realise he actually was talking about Tony. I was however a little annoyed that Tony gave no thought to McGee after McGee shot the suspect. It was all about whether Gibbs was okay. It wouldn't be the first time that a member of the team has found themselves risking their lives when Gibbs has gone off on his own agenda - something about which Tony would be all to aware, remember "Requiem", so I was surprised and a little disappointed with the writers when Tony showed no concern for his team mate at all. And what on earth was going on with Abby? She had a couple of nice scenes, but all that with the strained fingers and the glitter ball was just so OTT. Isn't it about time we had some Abby character development? And finally you say we can count on learning more regarding what is it, as Ducky said, about Anthony? Can we? I really want to see where the whole Gibbs/Tony thing goes. I hope to be proved wrong, but from past experience I fear we'll never really get to the bottom of some of the more cryptic conversations in this episode. Unfortunately I suspect some of the lines just sounded good to this particular writer. After all GG wrote about Tony's bargain with God - a beautiful line, but written with absolutely no thought as to what that bargain might be. Sadly gone are the days when Don B oversaw the show, and pretty much every line and nuance was there for a reason, to be picked up and played with at a later date. But we shall see, just maybe series 13 will surprise me.
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