I liked the way they worked the cancer storyline. I had a friend who died of cancer and we just want to believe anything is possible, we don't want them to die. I don't know how Liz came back, but I knew from reading some sinopse that she would be in next episode.I didn't care about the merge, the writers never made us love Luke all that much, I just din't want Kai to die, because he's funny.As for Liz talking to Stefan to take care of Caroline, not needed, too cliché.And as DIE HARD DELENA, I have to say that I HATED that light effect on the Delena KISS. Seriously, annoying, distracting and off af. With all the cute scenes they had in this episode, the kiss one was just bad and disapointing. Fix this TVD.
What have happen to cop show when did they become a bunch of pussy maybe the Mentalist would not be ending if they kill some character off
I totally agree The Mentalist was all about Jane and Red John now who the hell knows
Mike, I hate to be giving you any attention because you add nothing to this chat group. You're basically a turd in a punch bowl. However, you need to understand that TM is not and never has been a "cop show." It has been entirely a character study of one man, Patrick Jane, and his journey through tragedy to redemption. The crimes of the week are nothing more than a platform from which to portray this character's development. That's why some of their plots don't quite hang together and continuity sometimes gets lost. As Simon Baker said of the crime stories, "Sometimes they're ridiculous but it's all part of the fun and the game." Mike, go watch the real cop shows. You will be happier. You are out of your depth with TM.
I wish I thought Clyde was dead. I didn't see any blood. I think Crafty Clyde was wearing a bullet-proof vest. He got the wind knocked out of him but recovered and slunk away. Too bad Victor's guy didn't give him one to the cranium.
My theory is that wells is Barry from the future, a future that is completely messed up where the Justice League failed. Wells goes back to make sure that future doesn't happen. This would be similar to the young justice episode where kid flash goes back for the same reason.
Interesting idea that the funeral scene part of a con. I would hope for that because I agree with everyone that it is just not nice to kill off any of the characters that we all like so well. If this is to make a point to Lisbon that the FBI is dangerous it could be done in a different way like a bad injury not death! I was surprised by Cho's promotion, thought Lisbon was more senior and she didn't seem phased at all by being passed over. Now I do think Cho is serious and dedicated and smart so will do a great job. As for PJ and the ring, that was an interesting scene, maybe part of his issue with Lisbon being in danger is that he is just generally finding it difficult to commit and move on from his wife...not that he is really afraid something will happen to her. Anyways-great episode thanks for the commentary!
Cho went to Quantico for 6 months of training to be an FBI agent. As far as we know Lisbon did not attend any extra training. Cho was already part of Abbott's team when Lisbon came on board. So to me those things make Cho more qualified.
The writers haven't followed any of the real-life rules the FBI has. Under normal circumstances, I think any new agent would be required to go to Quantico for training and they would have to undergo a pretty extensive background check that would take a fair amount of time to perform. Lisbon and possibly Cho are both over the age limit for new agents. I also doubt that an agent who has been in the field for just over a year, as Cho has, would be eligible to take over a field office. But in the world of The Mentalist, I suppose we can assume that the FBI takes into account past experience in determining seniority and eligibility for the academy. Lisbon was head of a state police investigative unit and Cho was second in command at the CBI. They probably both attended FBI training courses over the years in that capacity and Lisbon probably also went to FBI field training when she was a sheriff.
Ok all good points! I need to brush up on old episodes, you all remembered details I"d forgotten! Thanks!
Saying that they both probably attended FBI training over the years is speculation. The information we have been given in the show is that Cho went to Quantico for 6 months and Lisbon didn't. Yes Lisbon was in charge at the CBI which might be why she was just a small town sheriff after the CBI was dissolved and Cho went on to be a FBI agent. She would bear more of the responsibility for how things went down at the CBI and the FBI was not impressed with the CBI's handling of the Red John case. I don't know how the FBI works in real life I was just pointing out the facts that we know and why I think they point to Cho being chosen and not Lisbon
Yes, it's speculation, but it also fits with what I know about local law enforcement. The sheriff's department and police department both send their best people to FBI field seminars/workshops/training, etc., where they learn about forensics and investigative techniques and whatever criminal groups are active in their area. Lisbon was a rising star at CBI and the sheriff's dept in Washington probably had some anti terrorism grant money to play with. The only way I can buy what the writers are trying to sell me is that Lisbon participated in so much FBI field training that she didn't need to go to Quantico.
I don't see any reason to go round and round on this. I was just answering Jessica's question based on the information we have from the show. Even if police do get some FBI training I doubt it is as intense as Quantico. The show went to great effort to show us that Lisbon's new job as sheriff was anything but exciting and didn't seem to have much responsibility. For some reason that is where she ended up once the dust from Red John had settled and Cho ended up with the FBI. Cho was already working for the FBi when Lisbon came to see Jane for the first time. Then Jane was in solitary for a while before Lisbon officially joined the team so Cho has seniority at the FBI. The CBI was dissolved and Lisbon told her team, "I am not your boss anymore." And Cho isn't dating Jane which we know Abbott knows. I would think that would affect their decision too.
kai is one of my favorite tvd villians so i'm glad he's gonna be around for awhile.
I'm so ready for Iris to get a little jealous, but I also really want her to become friends with Linda and introduce her to Wally. Then everybody wins!
You want Iris to introduce her little nephew to Linda? Isn't that a little hinky for the CW?
Considering that Linda's been aged up and Iris has no siblings... Pretty sure Wally's gonna end up being a cousin of a similar age instead.
feels so freaking good to have this back
How can OTH's Dan/Carrie be included with no mention of Peyton/Psycho Derek?!
I admire Luke for taking Jo's place but as soon as he did, I knew he was going to die. Luke is strong and I wish he was able to over take Kai but I guess with Kai being able to absorb power made him stronger than Luke. I think Liv and Jo will team up to take out Kai.Damon should feel bad for releasing Kai. He better do what he can to help take him down!Elena finally realized life is too short and is ready to get back with Damon and not worry about the past and having her memories of the two of them erased. I was team Stelena for the longest time but that will never happen so I am going with Delena.The show is really trying to push a romance with Caroline and Stefan, even having Liz tell him he had to take care of her.I too wonder how Liz came back to life.Once again there was no Bonnie. There was also no Matt, Jeremy or Enzo. I wonder if Michael Malarkey thought he would get more screen time when he was promoted to a series regular. He sure has not been on that many episodes.
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I agree with you the show is trying to push a romance with Caroline and Stefan and I hate it .And I am okay with less Enzo scenes because in last few episodes he was really annoying and I think Liz deserve the screen time because we were barely see her on the show .
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