I was confused and disappointed by Abby being the killer. I had heard a bunch of people say that the producer had stated that this would not have the same ending as the Aussie version. The one thing that did come as a surprise was Abby being a psychopath. Ben is an idiot for not listening to Cornell. I get that he loves his daughter, but he will be partly responsible for any future murders that Abby commits. Innocent people are going to die, and the only one that seems to get that is Natalie. I really liked Cornell in this episode, she is pitbull when it comes to her cases, but all that matters to her is that justice is served.
Tonight we lost a vaillant soldier to the cause. After a much honorable last fight, Joan eventually gave up. Hopefully, she will be revenged by Peggy giving them a hard time for their money ... Go, girl, go ! "We've come a long way", as a famous add used to say (the irony is not lost on me that it was a tabbacco one). And the struggle for woman equal opportunity at work is still a harsh reality. We have won battles, not the war. This last episode clearly helps us remember what women have gained over the last decades and how to fight for more. And I'm all with you Carissa, hoping for a "happy ending", although I'm not sure this is really what Mad Man as a show is about. It's more about failures, bad choices and creative means to cope with them and continue to breathe despite of them. Hopefully, there will be some sort of emotional closure for all of our favorite characters and a clever final statement for the audience. The roller skating scene was just perfect ....
aaaaaargh the torturous wait continues!!
I feel like mercy has pretty much never been seen by a viewer as scary/crazy/etc, instead seen as stupid from a b-movie aspect, semi-funny because she's not scary enough. Thankfully it looks like next episode lucy lawless will get her back to normal. Also good that it finally is the end of Isaac strapped to a bed and first the doctor, then mercy, hovering around him. That's probably been the most boring part of the season by far. I think it's interesting that the main character of season one, so far has been a real minor character this season. I don't really see how that could change unless he abandons his private witch hunt and is allowed back as a townsperson. But I don't really mind that Mary has been the main focus this year since she is interesting and hot. Alden also seems like he's over-acting this year too, more than in season one. Plus anything Indian-related on TV pretty much always seems hokey to some degree. This season is probably like a 3.25 overall so far, it's pretty enjoyable just not the highest level of TV.
The scene between Emma and Killian at the docks was so beautiful. I love how he always knows what to tell her to touch her heart - and how concerned he always is about her wellbeing. Not forgiving her parents - understandably imo because they took away her agency in a way - was hurting Emma and he didn't want that for her. I love how this season has shown that Killian is as much Emma's light as Emma is his.The whole episode was filled with meaningful dialog and after the previous 3 episodes just weren't that powerful (for me), I'm so happy this episode got me all excited for the finale again!
Isn't Gracie carrying Mark and Elena's baby? Now that they are brother and sister, what does that make the child?
Gracie is the surrogate for the baby, but the baby is not Mark's. The baby is Gracie's father's...
Love the show and its inherent goodness, even if it borders on naivete at times. Hope it will be back soon!
It did get renewed for season two quite some time ago... so it'll be back this fall.
It was obvious Victoria was trying to set Emily up. Margaux is a terrible terrible villain... I was so glad when Emily confronted her in jail.. I was surprised to see how good Charlotte was. She needs to be with her dad right now.Why can't it be a 2-hours finale?!?There's so much to cover!!!
Why did the author wait for Regina to dictate something? And then went back to Rumple so the Dark One could tell him a story? The author has worked entirely alone before, did he run out of ideas? Is he curious? Does he fear the Apprentice could somehow banish him again, so he seeks an ally? It just didn't make sense for me that he stayed around, waiting patiently, after he got the ink. But maybe I missed something and one of you guys can explain. After quite a long time, I'm finally looking forward to an episode again. Heroes and Villains sounds promising. I really, really hope the writers don't mess this up again (they went down a similar route with the curse of the shattered mirror and totally wasted a wonderful opportunity, imo, when everything got solved so fast and easily).I hope they include minor characters again, like Dr. Hopper or Granny or the dwarves... And where the hell is August??? Miss him! (Another example of a wasted character / storyline.)
According to the showrunners,He is returning in the finale.
Was I right in hearing Ethan referred to as 'Lupus Dieu' meaning Wolf god or something?
Yes that's right... Lupus Dei. It's in my quote above!
Means "Wolf of God" - that would imply a protector...
But there is no Lupus Dei in real tradition... this is made up - and not connected to any previous biblical version. The only previous usage of the phrase is as the title of an album by a German metal band called Powerwolf. I suspect this is the origin which the PD writers were looking at - because if you read the description of this concept album, the Lupus Dei is a creature of God who falls away in blood-lust, but then returns to God. Will be interesting to see if Ethan follows that trajectory.
Disagree, Wolves are wild and in biblical context are a scourge sent, not protectors. Even the Hermetics and Thelemics wouldn't see them as "protectors" but as warriors of a clan/pack. I Agree though that Ethan is a protector but it is because of the other cards we see spread by Vanessa, especially the one he flips, The Lovers.
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OOOOOOOOO!!! *Happy Dance!!!!!* I just did some digging on you too and now I am excited to see where this goes because there is a much better chance that you actually know even what the BV is! I sooooo wish I had looked into your profile first!!!!! *bouncy dance* I have some thick skin so don't worry about hurting my feelings :) Plus, I don't think deflating my pride would be a violation of Christian Charity; rather, it may be a manifestation of it (and I mean that in all sincerity). That said, I did check my facts with an upper level Curia member (with whom I am friends) as well as multiple Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Theologians (also friends) to confirm my understanding and incorporated my background in the other fields. Don't forget the Demimonde of PD/the cosmology of the Gothic is not particularly Christian. They use Christian symbols to make it intelligible and because they saw it as part of the Aeon in which they existed. [the prophet speaks of the wicked] "idcirco...lupus ad vesperam vastavit eos...eorum omnis qui egressus fuerit ex eis capietur" (Jeremiah 5:6), Particularly important to PD, [The prophet speaks to the end of the Aeon] "....habitabit lupus cum agno..." (Isaiah 11:6) and again, "lupus et agnus pascentur simul et...eius non nocebunt neque occident." (Isaiah 65:25) Flipped through and found some (but remember the way Hebrew works, is very different, naming something is taking power over it, if you want to associate it you describe it): "inebriabitur terra eorum sanguine et humus eorum adipe pinguium quia dies ultionis Domini annus retributionum iudicii [the prophet elaborates on destruction finally culminating in]....et occurrent daemonia onocentauris [in the Aramaic this is expressed as essentially, the wolves and tigers shall meet, and the demon beasts of night shall cry to each other] et pilosus clamabit alter ad alterum ibi cubavit lamia et invenit sibi requiem." This places the divinely ordered right up there with the Lamia! Isaiah 34:7-14 and Habakkuk 1:8 where the author uses tons of wolf metaphor and even directly the word wolves. "vae provocatrix et redempta civitas...non audivit vocem et non suscepit...ad Deum suum non adpropiavit... iudices eius lupi vespere [as punishment for the city's sins God directs the scourge of the "wolves" in the city]...[here God is speaking of what he has done] disperdi gentes et dissipati sunt anguli earum desertas feci vias eorum dum non est qui transeat desolatae sunt civitates eorum non remanente viro nec ullo habitatore" (Zephaniah 3:1-5),
Well, I am a pastoral worker and educator, not really a scholar, but it is my understanding that most modern biblical translators have rejected the Vulgate for its 'poor scholarship' and went back to the original Aramaic and Greek texts for a more accurate translation. Even the most recent translations, since 2008, which glossed from the finally-available Dead Sea Scrolls, didn't add any of that kind of thing back. I am somewhat familiar with Jewish apocryphal books that deal with the origins of Satan and with with Hermetic symbolism (In college, I studied Milton and the 17th century metaphysical poets - who made frequent use of those). However, I am betting the writers of PD have only a superficial knowledge of this. We will have to see how deep they go.
Oh I agree that the Vulgate has its issues :D (I'm not a Feenean or Fabian Bruskewitz) and as I implied at some point (not entirely sure where) the Greek, Aramaic, etc texts need to all be taking in context and held in tension. For our cumulative understanding. My point was more that KJV and NKJV (at least one of which was Royalist propaganda) and even to a degree the NRSV have as many [or more in that they neglect the continuity]. Not casting shade at all here, I adore Milton, but seems more to almost approach it as a matter of rhetorical Christian apologetics to the rising tide of non-Christian thought. Not just the Anti-Catholicism of the French "enlightenment" which just created a new set of myths [no one understood setting our understanding of human existence back again] but thoughts whose origins were distinct from the Christian paradigm. Based on everything that I have read of/by John Logan, he seems to have an extremely firm handle on these issues so I am actually letting my hopes get high.
And for the record Joyce, I cannot tell you how much joy it brings me to know that the Church has educators and pastoral workers who are actively engaging in dialogues such as this. I personally believe that there is a huge cosmological/paradigm gap between the a large portion of the Church's higher level administration [and possibly the Church Herself] and the current youth. I know that for me one of the issues that I could never reconcile was the Church's stance on time. Obviously that wasn't inspired my leaving, that was the deplorable pastoral care I received as a man who acknowledge my same sex attractions as a part of my identity; however, it did make it that much easier. Regardless of my past experiences and present reservations, the fact that the Church has someone like you serving Her is a great blessing, and I pray that your effort bring new life to Her. Thank you for your service.
Well, that's actually not true. I did just do a google search and found where I think you may have gotten confused. If you aren't familiar with Powerwolf and the Goth/Metal scenes you would have to do a great deal of digging to find that the vast bulk of their work is derived from biblical references (hence the connections between Dreadfuls, Goths, Death Metal, Metal Heads, Gothic literature, etc, we really LOVE our cosmology). I have to assume here too that you are not familiar with the Biblia Vulgata (I am) and probably don't have a background in Satanism (I did practice Satanism). If one were familiar with the BV or Satanism or Hermetic symbolism, or Thelemic symbolism (or most of the authorities which inform the cosmology of the Demimonde) it would be known that actually the term* is EVERYWHERE in the Old Testament. When it was translated out of Latin/Greek the usage got lost/or reassigned. It is a tragedy that the KJV, NKJV, even the DRB and NRSV were more interested in making it sound pretty in the vernacular than in accurate translation. * "term" was a poor choice of word, I am referring to the English Term and it's equivalent in the Latin text (any where in which God prescribes a modification of Lupus (ironically interchangeably used with Daemon in many places (between Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek and Latin)) as the Bible presumes Divine Authority.
Well, as he is a werewolf, I was really just wondering whether he had some significance to the other 'children of the night'. We've already seen him talk a wolf down from attack in the first series, so I wondered if he was perhaps a more powerful werewolf than the others. I didn't really mean to start a theological debate...
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