Where is Kai from TVD? Rachel from orphan black?
Another amazing episode. Even though I do not like Greer's character, I did rather enjoy seeing him as a young MI6 agent. Samaritan is beyond scary, and that kid that was portraying it was really creepy. I could easily see that kid acting in a horror movie. I am not sure how The Machine and our PoI team are going to beat Samaritan. I love the entire team, which includes Bear, and I do not want to lose anyone on it. I guess Root would be the one I would hate to lose the least, but still are valuable. I cannot wait for part 2.
This episode was absolutely terrific. And that conversation between the Machine and Samaritan was amazing and creepy at the same time. I really hope that no one dies in the next episode or episodes. I'm still not over Carter's death. I'm one of those pathetic losers who still don't think that she is dead and she is out there working undercover for some federal agency ;-)
Meh, I'm glad to see him go. What really did he add to the storyline other than be a source of lacklustre romantic conflict? That could be filled by just about anybody. He was inconsistently written and once he opened fire on those villagers, there was no coming back from that. That was deliberate, cold-blooded murder no matter his motives. Comparing it to Bellamy's actions in S1 is no good, we have to deal with the here and now and this is the way it's panned out for Finn. Hopefully there'll be a juicy aftermath that can be explored between the characters, then at least Finn would have been good for something.
I didn't find Cole attitude towards Alison's grams as dismissive...I saw a man who once was deeply hurt, and did not want to go through the same pain again. Kind of what Noah told her at the hospital...it feels as the same pain, but it's not... Maybe I am naive, but I do think that in this situation, Cole cares more about Alison, than Helen...I think Helen is more concerned about not having her perfect happy-ending or perfect safe life. Suddenly, I do not perceive her as a strong woman at all...while in couple therapy, I felt they were pathetic...
Bushi101, Winter, Sojourner, Carissa, and other postersI had dinner tonight with pals my wife called to take me out. I had a particularly difficult day at work because of the type of procedures I had to perform and the age of the patients. It was a day of cleaning up after violence. Horrendous. Now for the discussions at dinner. One of my longest suffering friends is a professor of psychiatry at UCLA. He, I, and a Ob. Gyn. pal of mine went out for an Italian orgy at Bucca di B------. During dinner we discussed, at my urging, the consequences of adultery and the causes from their perspective with dealing with females. Boy do they have a different perspective. Both these guys are in their mid-50's and have been divorced and now remarried. The Shrink is of the opinion that once a female has rationalized the act of adultery in her mind, the actual committal of the act is quite simple. The difficulty is in the mental justification and the inner turmoil which occurs when a woman contemplates cheating. In his and the Ob's opinion, a woman thinks far longer about the commission of the act than a man. Women, in their opinion, have a higher threshold to scale before commission of an affair. The Shrink (I use the term in a reverent manner), stated he has had literally hundreds of women in his practice who have admitted to or desired counsel about adultery. The reasons run the gamete of what we have been discussing. The most common explanations have been loneliness, lack of sexual contact with spouse, wishing larger variety of sexual experience, monotony of relations, boredom, anger at spouse, or retaliation for spouses' infidelity. Interestingly, adulteresses, the Gyn. stated as his opinion, rarely stop at one affair if undiscovered. The Gyn. had a patient (no names ever), who had carried on simultaneous affairs with 2 different men all working in the same high rise in L.A. On a least 2 occasions the woman had contracted an STD, but not a mandatorily reportable one. She of course had transmitted the joy to her 3 partners. They could treat the STD with RID (so you can diagnosis the ailment). Both gentlemen, were of the opinion that women were far better at keeping the affairs secret than men. In fact, the Shrink could only recall a handful of women patients who were discovered in the course of the affair. Most of the women had affairs, and then returned to their spouses without incident... Even the multi-occasion offenders were rarely discovered. Am I giving guys reason for concern? Affairs apparently are commonplace and quite easy to disguise. The patients were representative of all age groups (20's, 30's to 70's). One of the patients of the Gyn. had an affair with the same person the husband had slept with (a woman). The Shrink stated that the adultery rate among U.S. married women approaches 30% in the studies which he has read. That is rather shocking, but not according to him, since the divorce rate exceeds 50% in the general population. One of the Gyn.'s patients used her affairs to experiment with different sexual techniques and even varieties of condoms and sex toys. He stated that this patient cheated for a least 3 years before returning to her husband exclusively. My Shrink pal said that his ex-wife cheated with some one we all know (before we were pals), but that he will forever keep that name a secret, because the guy has remained cordial and his ex no longer lives in the State. I have no idea who the guy is, because I think I know my friends really well. He must be just a person I know but am not friendly with. I told my wife about my dinner discussion, and she was not particularly surprised about the Shrink's observations. She said that it was common knowledge that females have a higher threshold to the commission of adultery. My wife has always tried to refrain from discussing the sex lives of her friends with me. She is very protective of her friends. She actually has little or no interest in the intimate contacts of my friends either. The only one she keeps track of is me, and she knows that I give her little cause for concern. None of the aforementioned reasons for cheating exist for me. Thankfully, I have way too much trouble keeping up with my wife's demands. But I keep the Hall Pass list up to date, just in case. Ha Ha!
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Your post ended at " During dinner we discussed, at my urging, the consequences of adultery and the causes from their perspective of dealing with females." There must be more to the story. p.s. Since I develop surgical equipment I have observed many surgeries. The one thing that struck me was that when there are operations on children things get very quiet and serious. Struck me as a very good sign.
Sorry Sojourner.I was called away and had to finish my post after some delay. Work calls seem to never cease.
I was one that didn't care for the assignation of Finn's character. He went from pacifist to murderer in a blink of an eye. It looked like for the sole purpose of dumping his character from the show and giving Clarke another big moment. At this rate she is going to single handedly tame the wild world of earth. It was just a little too melodramatic for my taste.
Honestly I'm disgusted, this is the same thing that happened on Gossip Girl. Fans bitched, moaned, complained, did everything they could to vilify Dan Humphrey when he was with Blair and excusing every deplorable action Chuck did all so that the writers could "remove" him. The writers conceded, decimating Dan's character. I'm seeing history repeating itself with this show.
I've never watched Gossip Girl, but I have a difficult time seeing that show and The 100 being even in the same conversation regarding "history repeating itself." If you're talking about shippers (I'm guessing here), I don't believe The 100 writers do anything to satisfy shippers, if anything, it's the opposite. They have the story they want to tell and tell it despite the wishes of some fans.
I remember that show. Dan is really dry as in boring. I guess I blame the actor. This show is directed by Rothenberg not Julia Plec.So I don't understand the comparison.
what I don't like about this is that most people predicted it from the promos and the flashback. It is a given that this means death. Plus it seems to me that the producers have did the massacre which was so out of character for Finn in order to gratify the Twitter brigade who want Bellarke. It is sad to watch so many shows which seem to follow this rather than write coherent fleshed out characters. I just watched the whole of series one and Bellamy was responsible for killing the 320 people because he destroyed the radio in the first season but twitter loves him. I won't be watching this show anymore as I really liked Finn and the producer gave him this episode to try and restore his character after decimating it before.
Agreed. And even if the showrunner and writers do decide to move in the direction of pairing Clarke and Bellamy, Finn's death is not a prerequisite.
I agree and I have noticed this also, not just on twitter, but on other sites (here included). Bellamy was responsible for the deaths on the Ark out of a selfish motive and not one fan holds him responsible, yet Finn killed 18 because he legitimately had a "psychotic break" and suddenly every man, woman, and child with a mobile device wants his head. Except the truth is it's not the fact that Finn killed 18 Grounders that gets these fans all mad at Finn, it's because he exists and is a threat to Bellarke that he "must go" because of his actions. Yet if it were ANYONE else, hell if it were Bellamy, we wouldn't have seen that outright hatred displayed towards a character. This is a FACT. If it were Bellamy he would've been given a pass
I'm not sure where you've seen that on this site. I've always held that Bellamy was responsible in part for the culling on the Ark because he took the radio, he also shot Jaha. Jasper was responsible for the war because he sparked it at the bridge. Clarke was responsible for the Grounders' deaths at the drop ship. Finn did kill the 18 Grounders, but he thought he was doing it to save the 48 taken and missing, including Clarke. Should he have died for that? No. By the end, did Clarke make the right decision to kill him? I think so. He sacrificed himself to the Grounders. He made that decision. She tried to save him and couldn't so she did what she could. She prevented his suffering. I'll miss Finn, but I believe the ending to his story felt realistic given the situation.
I totally agree with you. Everyone in the 100 has had a second chance and been redeemed its just unfortunate that Finn had to go as per most fans wishes. Its like people were out for him the moment the show aired. According to something i read on another site; Finn is not part of the book series and in the books Bellamy and Wells were Clarke's love interest and since Wells already died they've only got Bellarke to ship now so thus the creation of Finn's character and him being a love interest of Clarke to begin with were two strikes too many for them(fans) to accept.
I never even read the books so i didn't have a clue who ended up with who.That being said,bellarke chemistry is off-the-charts,finn-clarke is nowhere near them in comparison.P.S-i kinda liked finn's character,so not a hater!
I've also got nothing against Bellamy, like him a lot... Bellarke's got chemistry but so does Flarke. I guess the bottomline is each to his own definition of chemistry.
Exactly,i'm just thanking the creators for not killing bellamy.I will go insane if that actually happens!LOL!
Lol like am currently going insane over Finn's death? Was out of it for almost ten minutes!!! Even though i did see it coming, it was just too emotional for me..
I feel for you,i felt the same way for revenge mid-season finale when daniel died!
I'm sick of seeing people upset at Finn's demise blame it at the door Bellarke shippers door. The showrunner himself has said that this has been planned even before filming began for this season, so unless you think the writers and producers have been planning a way to placate Bellarke shippers since S1 and over the hiatus, it silly to suggest this is some sort shipper related event. It's one thing for the shippers to cry out 'Finn be gone' and whatever, they're entitled to that viewpoint. It's quite another to suggest the writers of this incredible show are kowtowing to that brigade when that isn't the case at all.
I would hope the writers/producers wouldn't cater to a certain 'ship' while developing the plot. I do think it likely that when they were picked up for season 2 they probably took a good hard look at how the audience was responding to each character, and unfortunately, because of how they chose to develop his character in season 1, Finn was one of the least liked. So going forward I think the writers had a huge task ahead, because the way they'd written his character thus far just didn't seem to be working. They could have played it safe with Finn, had him continue as a series regular, maybe hoped to keep his character arc of peacekeeper, love interest going, maybe gradually making him darker. They could have given up on the love story with Clarke and found another purpose for him (I would have loved to see a Finn/Bellamy bromance and adventure squad shenanigans myself, which episode 201 made me think I was getting, but oh well *cries*). Or go in a much darker and extreme direction and use his devotion to and love for Clarke as a catalyst, a sacrificial lamb, to add fuel to the fire of the main character's arc, because god knows, Clarke, even though she's now technically free of romantic entanglements and to some degree better able to lead, will be battling some serious demons now. I feel your pain though. Finn was one of my favorite characters, and I was a bit upset at what seemed like an unprecedented and rushed change in his character this season, even though I think I understand the intention. I'm still sort of in shock at the death scene, even though I pretty much saw it coming; really death was the only outcome after what happened and for all that I'm upset over it, Eliza and Thomas were amazing in that scene. So heartwrenching. I thought Thomas McDonell did an amazing job and I will sorely miss him.
Your theory would've been so amazing to see being played out on screen. Finn's love for Clarke is just too good to waste on a couple of episodes. It could have been used to develop so many other facets of his character and the show. This is just a total waste of Tom's acting skills. He could have gone for many more seasons and the show would've still been awesome.
This really was epic! Let's hope his death will be the catalyst to rescue the 40 something from the mountain. It will be so interesting to see how Clarke and Raven adjust to their loves death.
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