We didn't see Morland but we saw a cloud coming his and our couple's way . That detective clearly announced that she would investigate their reinstatement which is connected to a bribery case. As for the doctor prescribing chemio to healthy patient, it happened in real life with a recently convicted Dr Farid F. ( 45 years ).
I think a very important point is missed here. This isn't about Meredith just being loyal to Cristina who is her person, this isn't the reason Amelia is being overshadowed in the Owen story, but sometimes when things are critical you might not want to involve your romance with it especially when things are just starting off. This has nothing to do with whether owen and meredith were close or not in the last year or ever but they both know that they can communicate on that level that owen needs right now and perhaps meredith too. nobody will understand your dark and twisty days unless they have been through something similar and through cristina owen knows that part of meredith and the other way round. Also I highly disagree when couples come closer because of a massive issue in one's or the other's life and Amelia should have wanted to stay out of this, maybe be around to support owen but she should't want to crawl with owen through this.She doesn't see clearly and she allowed her jealousy to overtake her and how she spoke to Meredith was unacceptable.
This episode was kind of disappointing for me. I enjoyed seeing Lindsay Wagner but I didn't feel that they used her well. I wish they would have left Gibbs in DC and let Bishop's mother interact more with her, creating a great mother and daughter moment. At this point, I'm a little annoyed that Gibbs must be injected into the middle of everything. I know that this is the Gibbs show but I think that they missed an opportunity to let Bishop interact with her family without the ever present Gibbs. Let Emily Wickersham be front and center without Harmon upstaging her. We need to see who this character is and not eclipsed by Gibbs or propped up by Gibbs.
The show has become very predictable in having to make sure the Gibbs issues or heroism or being the one to solve someone else's dilemma seems to be inserted into every single episode. Sometimes it's a mystery as to why the rest of the team exists because Gibbs pretty much does everything worth doing. It was s much more interesting show when they used all the characters and different combinations of them for the big moments and dramas. Now it's always either Gibbs by himself, Gibbs and a team member, or Gibbs and a guest star. No team member it seems can have an entire episode that is really about them unless Gibbs gets his obligatory scenes from the writers that focuses on some featured attribute.
Guess you missed the other half, you know Tobey and Tony and McGee taking down the money launderers, Tony and Tim locating the brother, Oh Tony wacking the scumbag in the back of the head as the third method, Tony doing the reports soTim could do the soup kitchen with Abby, Tobey and Tony comisurating over their pathetic holiday plans, well not really pathetic. If the attribute of being a father is what you speak of well yes that is Gibbs to his team and that's the way it's always gonna be, you want shock and awe it won't be here. That's not the style of the show. Though they do occasionally surprise us. They are our comfort food in very troubled times.
Specifically that was murder 2.0. That was from the perp, oh and Zivas Friend Lizan in the missionary position. over all Gibbs doesn't get stroked any more than Tony strokes himself. A 24 yr NCIS career with 7 plus civilian awards, a bunch of service awards while in the Marines might get you notice on a CV. Meanwhile Tony gets the legend, in Baltimore every time. Is this a measuring contest really? By the way I think that the character would have given that all up for his wife and daughter, but we know how that would have ended don't we. No Gibbs.
You said exactly what I have been thinking all season, bravo!
It has become the all Gibbs all the time show. Absolutely no other character can be written in a way where it might be construed that they have much value when placed beside Gibbs. It's the same crap that messed up MASH when Alan Alda took artistic control and Hawkeye became the be all end all character as the other characters became back ground noise. Same thing seems to be happening here. If a story can't somehow shoehorn in scenes featuring some predominant aspect of Gibbs, the story simply won't be told. I miss the team but the cohesiveness of that dynamic is gone. Now it's always Gibbs and fill in the blank.
Half of the show didn't involve Gibbs or Bishop or tied their actions to what the rest of the team was doing back in DC. Tony sure isn't a father figure, now we see that MW might need a little growing up himself. Perhaps he should adopt the Gibbs persona. The overlying theme of the show is Gibbs father figure to his agents, I think their cohesiveness and dynamic was spot on, they all went on and did their jobs without the boss, even Bishop took it upon herself to try at Leavenworth before Gibbs even got there, at Tony's request. so what they didn't get together for dinner all of them we've seen it been there done it, cant always end the same. Really you must think that Tony has no value here, he acted as second in command, directed Bishop, saved Tobey from a violent confrontation, and it is Gibbs place to be the dad here, it's partly his fault that Ellie and Jake are on the rocks, he brought her in, and that started the wall to build between the spouses.
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We don't know the mom and as Doug said not interested in the investment yet just like he wasn't interested in the Quinn's, a little harsh, but first time I wasn't that hot for Gibbs papa either. Yes I'd be worried as a mom about her she's had two dangerous jobs already, couldn't talk about the first, and won't talk about the second and her marriage woes, what else could a mom do. Gibbs is rescuing himself too, and bishop has to rescue herself. She will work this out because she'll recognize she has too just as Gibbs has finally seen it for himself. She figured out how to reach Doogan, not Gibbs. He didn't rescue bishop, she decided on her own to return, and how to approach the convict, Gibbs was just the sounding board she could talk to if she wished.
So, you are saying that only Gibbs can solve a problem on the show? Is it that he is the only one capable or is he the only one who is allowed? In my life I've found that at different times different people have the answer that I need. There is not just one person who has all of the answers. Could Bishop's mother have been written differently so that she had the key? The way Bishop's mother was written, Gibbs was needed to help her. Could her brother have been written as the one who could say what she needed to hear. What I'm getting at is that this show is scripted. There is a "creative process." Real life, I find, is often very unpredictable. Excellent writing mirrors life. It is very predictable that Gibbs will solve the problem. I would like them to surprise me.sometimes. Throw me a curve for a change. Letting someone else help her.would have been nice. Having Lindsay Wagner on the show was an opportunity that got dropped in my opinion What they are doing with John Cryer, on the other hand, is pretty good, Allowing Michael Weatherly to be the hero in the recent episode is ls also a step in the right direction..
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But Ellie wasn't interacting, she was blocking, it was Gibbs advice to her on the porch, the revelation that he was talking to someone. We had plenty of interaction between her brother and her and her mom, but Bish wasn't having it with feelings and conversation, there are those who would say it's impossible to make Bishop interesting, I disagree but Gibbs needed to be there, to get her to talk, and to reassure her mom that she would be watched over, not protected but, knowing your daughters boss on a more personal level, it a reassurance. Gibbs has that way about him. She was doing pretty good on her own, but you can't go it alone all the time. Let's face it, he went there for two reasons, Leavenworth, and the worry that she might not want to come back, and the help her to see beyond the hurt and betrayal, to what she wants to be and do.
You've seen NCIS before, right? Gibbs is always the hero...99.9999% of the time.
They are all heroes on the show, Gibbs was the father figure in the episode because Ellie's dad hadn't gotten home yet, Gibbs interactions with Lindsey and with Ellie were simply that, fatherly. What we got out of mom was her secret fears , about her daughter, and concerns about her marriage, and the realization that Ellie doesn't open up much, and never has, and is a serious planner. Seriously in real life would you expect your boss to pop up at your door 1000 miles away, to help you with a case, and with something personal esp when you know he's a functional mute and doesn't open up to anyone? That was the point of it. Tony and Tim did their jobs in DC with Tobias, and Gibbs did his job with his young agent, he got her to think it through so she could first do her job, and then move on from the betrayal. That would be his duty, don't you think, not Tony not McGee not ,Abby, or Ducky, it was Gibbs who brought her into the unit, from NSA, that separation hindered her relationship with Jake, though I think jake s an idiot, and I'm sure he told Jake that in no uncertain terms, but in the end, his fledgling his responsibility.
Gibbs has always been the father to his team, that is how Bellisario wrote NCIS. He has had poignant moments with Ziva, Abby, Tim and Tony. I like those poignant moments. My problem is that they had Lindsay Wagner on the show and she came off as the stereotypical worried mom. Why not do something different. Let Bishop and her mom do something different. Let her mother be strong and maybe talk about a rough patch that she and Bishop's dad went through and how she thought about leaving him. I was hoping for that but it didn't happen. We got the same predictable Gibbs to the rescue..
You are commenting on the show as written. What I'm saying is that they could try writing some things differently so that it is not so predictable. Were we really surprised when Jake confessed to cheating? I wasn't.
Not really because we saw him with another woman in Dubai and at the restaurant, as did Bishop, but he could have lied to her, and denied the affair, instead he was brutally honest, maybe it's less interesting to be an honest scumbag than a lying one, but this show isn't about deception and lies, it's about integrity, and fortitude, and life lessons, we didn't know Barbara enough to allow the mom in her to be anything more than what she was, the writers have a hard enough time dealing with Bishop, to the satisfaction of none, they can't win, well I think this episode was a close to a win for Bishop writing as there has been lately. We are an 8 o'clock show here in the states, in some zones 7, I know you're from Canada, which is cool, but those 8 o'clock shows have to have a certain tenor, I'm not gonna say Brady bunch, or Ozzie and Harriet, MH might approve however, considering family ties, ok there's a third example, pun sorry, but there is an undercurrent of family, and loyalty, so evident, that in terms of family dynamic well it's a bit limiting. I just spent part of my day defending the show from a left wing loon who wants it off the air because it defends the miltary and our soldiers "murderous "ways, seriously, those were its words, so where are we to go? The predictable formula is very CBS, the show is a comfort show for many, that's why it'll never get the Emmy, but always shows up in the radar at people's Choice. To them this is stretching the envelop, by giving she who is the most hated by a few the chance to do something, and that's still too much for them. Then we've got the Tiva and poor belittled Tony crowd, they are never never happy, considering recent events with MW, it seems tha Dinozzo is more grown up than his actor. They've made adjustments given the cast evolving situations, that's the best we'll get, and I'm glad they are at least trying it.
Maybe they should stop calling the show NCIS and call it "LeRoy Jethro Gibbs, Extremely Special and Gifted Special Agent." Have you noticed how oftentimes someone introduces him to someone new, they say "and this is the famous LeRoy Jethro Gibbs." You can almost hear the trumpets blow. Why do they have to keep telling us that he's famous. Why isn't it enough that people say, "I've heard about you Gibbs," when they meet him? Understatement is better.
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Actually, calling Gibbs 'famous" has been on going. This is not one or two specific cases. Gibbs himself does not toot his own horn but the writers seem to need to have it done for him. I guess they think that we need reminding from time to time. When Tony calls himself "very special agent," it's a joke meant to needle his coworkers. Tony has always like to needle people. If I remember correctly he called McGee "very special agent" recently. That was a compliment from Tony, no longer a needle. Tony getting called "the legend" by his former coworkers is both a joke and a compliment at the same time The loss of Shannon and Kelly is integral to his character. His fatherhood for Kelly was cut short and he's tried 4 times to fill the hole left when Shannon died. The Team became his family. Gibbs said so on more than one occasion that the team is family. The idea of the team as family was also in Bellisario's series, JAG. Even the father figures had similar names LeRoy Jethro Gibbs and Albert Jethro Chegwidden. Albert Jethro Bellisario was Don Bellisario's father.. In fact LeRoy Jethro Gibbs is Don Bellisario's alter ego. Both Gibbs and Bellisario were Gunnery Sergeants in the Marine Corps and both married four times. Bellisario married his current wife, Vivienne Murray, Sean Murray and Chad Murray's mother. He lived the father thing. Many of the Bellisario clan worked on NCIS or the spin off LA. In early episodes of NCIS Vivienne Bellisario appeared as a red head who often picked Gibbs up from work in. The plan was eventually to reveal who the mysterious red head was but when Bellisario got forced off of the show, that plan was dropped. The characters, Chip, Abby's lab assistant and Tim's sister, Sarah, were played by Beliisario's kids, Michael Bellisario and Troian Bellisario. Just a little trivia. I hope it doesn't offend you.
Nope I know the trivia too, but one thing, Viv Bellisario was off the show by the end of the third season, she showed up once or twice that yr to Zivas curiosity and of course for Jenny's petty jealousies. Hollis became the love interest in season 4 and Don was still the show runner, with Shane Brennan coming in during that yr as a writer, and sort of backup to Bellisario as there were issues brewing at that point. One could accuse Don of serious nepotism with respect to his relatives, but hey you've got to protect your family. Never was a big JAG fan mine was Magnum.
Bellisario called season 4 "the season of secrets." He also said that it was the hardest year he ever had with a series. He had the season all charted out. Abby's secret was the romance with the little person played by Michel Gilden. That secret was supposed to have played out over the season but Gilden committed suicide. which resulted in rewrites of the script. Susannah Thompson who played Colonel Hollis Mann, Gibb's love interest for the season, asked Bellisario for time off so that she could work on another project. She was gone for over a month and Bellisario was doing more juggling. Mark Harmon complained about Bellisario's chaotic management style and last minute script changes. He told CBS that either Bellisario goes or he would walk. The rest is history. Bellisario later obviously had brain issues that could have caused what Harmon accused him of. He ended up with a shunt to drain excess fluid from his brain. Now, how much of the problem that led to his dismissal was his brain issues and how much was the necessity of the needed script changes, I really can't say. Maybe both the brain issues and the script problems created the perfect storm for Bellisario. I don't have any insider information only what was in the media and what Bellisario said on a you tube video. I felt bad for DP because this show was his baby. LeRoy Jethro Gibbs, as I said, was his alter ego. To lose creative control of your creation must have been horrible for him. I think, in my opinion, that Bellisario had more talent in his little finger than all of his successors.
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If they don't show it onscreen, it didn't happen ( unless it's Soprano's)..... Simone lives!! Bear's reaction when he got to his truck was more frustration at his own " weakness" for not being able to kill his betraying niece, than being upset that he had to kill her. Dodd is his enemy now, and he feels like he should have killed Dodd's kid, in retaliation for what happened with Charlie, as well as for Simone's actions. I've thought from the very beginning how cool it would be if Ed ( aka Todd from Breaking Bad), actually ended up a boss man in the mob. The Butcher Breaks Bad!! Peggy rambling on about being her best self, and Ed, the simple minded butcher takes over! I'm wondering if Hanzee has left the Gerhardt Reservation, and is trying to trick Bear, or, is Hanzee hot in the trail of Ed as he drives Dodd's car with Dodd in the trunk. Wtf is Floyd up to? Her sly smile after she informed on Kansas City seemed to indicate she is up to something. Is Hank up to craziness to try and cure his daughter from cancer? Bear's comments to Hanzee about being welcome at the family table, and then telling Simone that no one is family now seem important.
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Crowley recently stated himself, "You and Sam don't understand, I'm not your bloody sidekick!" But that's exactly what he's become, a sidekick to the series as a whole. His current threats are empty, as are threats against him. Ultimately everyone is left standing and in good health. In fact, Crowley often gets someone out of one jam or another, even at his minor expense. So where's the tension or his purpose, beyond a lazy writer's quick plot fix? Meanwhile he's been painted into this character of a bored CEO/administrator overlooking "the new Hell". Upper management can be hell, we get it, ha, ha, ha. But all the real action is literally locked away in boxes with Michael and Lucifer - the original ruler of Hell - duking it out, which we never see. He lets others, like Rowena or the Darkness, manipulate him in ways "the old Crowley" would have seen coming a mile ahead, then stopped and/or used to his advantage. Again, lazy writing and character development. I could say the same for Castiel, but his character was always and deliberately much more bland, so seeing him leave is even more so needed. The whole Heaven/Hell story arc was a big mistake, I'm hoping this 'Darkness' will be a way of retiring it and getting back to basics - where Sam and Dean solved their own problems through the knowledge and environment they unearthed, not through the snap of some angel's/demon's fingers or as pawns in that game. Returning to presenting viewers to non-Christian supernatural lore with the same level of seriousness extended to those story arcs, so each season doesn't feel like an extended Bible study class with MOTW episodes treated as coffee breaks. In that context, perhaps as the ruler of the "new Hell" Crowley would be even more interesting, as he would acknowledge he has overtaken the realms of punishment of all wrongdoers in all faiths/beliefs of humans over the millennia. Yet he is one of many forms or part of a collective whole. This isn't being "politically correct" as is being literal that how people view who/what oversees how they are rewarded and punished for their actions in the supernatural realms.
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Smallville was also moved to Fridays which seemed like a death blow but viewing habits have changed and it continued to do fairly well. A lot of young people (target audience) don't even watch t.v. shows on t.v. so although this might feel like a demotion I don't think it spells the end for either Vampire Diaries or The Originals. Viewers who love both shows will find a way of watching them either Friday or on another platform. Of course it will all depend on the writing especially on TVD with one of the main characters having left it has to continue to be about reinvention without taking away from the core of the story which is all about the Salvatore Brothers' enduring bond. Consideration has to be given to actors' age as well, they're both getting a little long in the tooth (still very handsome) but portraying eternally youthful vampires can become a bit of a stretch eventually. That's a problem which the brothers don't have on Supernatural.
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