Ok everyone needs to chill. I was/am a big Ziva fan and I understand that he "needs" to move on. The problem is it seems rushed and I feel like Tony doesn't need a love interest. They should focus more on Delilah and McGee (plus Abby) or Bishop's husband. I feel as though the idea of a love interest for Tony is worn out.
Delay;Stall;Delay. After reading all the confusing and different screener reports from those watching the same thing, Marlowe and Amann working together as co-show runners looks kind of scary right now as S7 moves forward. Marlowe put that “unsettled” word out there to get the angst started with the audience which he knows stirs up and frustrates the fans. It presents as a deliberate attempt to sabotage the season for other projects. What kind of EP writes scripts that he knows will lose audience? The viewers being exposed to more of Beckett doubting Castle is just pathetic. Anything from the Castle past that would put Kate or his family at risk should have already been discussed before the wedding. That is just common decency. If there is an issue with your past, take steps to keep your family safe. Any secrets still held between them now is just unrealistic at this point in the relationship. Maybe what needs to happen is that the viewer numbers for 7x1 and 7x2 drop to rerun level numbers (4-5 million) in order to force changes by the network. Casual viewers are not going to hang around very long waiting for a wedding while Marlowe gets his mythology story on track.
I am pretty sure we were warned that the 12th Doctor was going to be more cerebral and less action. The episodes have me on a rollercoaster of "I love this, I hate this" and I am not happy with seeing his fears. The Doctor has been around forever and is supposed to be confident in his ability to solve any crisis whether he knows what he is doing at the time or not. 10 had this, 11 had it but on a more childlike level (especially at the beginning when he kind of ran at problems trusting that they would get sorted along the way). 12 hasn't shown it yet and has to stop being so clingy or viewers will bolt with Clara.The writers need to give him more puzzles to solve and he and Clara need to figure out that they are partners.
I had taken a break from secret life ever since Adrian and Ben lost their baby. But I started watching it where I left off, and to me it makes sense that it seemed like Ben was her choice. I know the writers weren't resolute about it, but I believe it was to be inferred that she did. Her whole point of breaking up with Ricky was that she knew he wasn't in love with her. He loved her, but wasn't IN love with her. Where as with Ben I think we all knew how Ben was still in love with Amy when they were talking in the hallway. After all this time he still was in love with her.
This is the first episode, besides the premiere, I have enjoyed as well. It was fun without being convoluted, which I felt the last episode was. This Doctor doesn't come off as as much of a badass as his last counterparts, but it was still good. The biggest problem I'm finding myself having is getting interested in the arching mysteries that this season is presenting its viewers.
Love is not a definable word. Everyone will have their own understanding of what it is to be in love. I'm a scientist and I don't believe there is a definite meaning that can be communicated to everyone else! :-) I believe Grace loves Neil AND loves Simon. Many of you disagree but use words like Grace is strongly attracted to Simon and emotionally involved and doesn't want to cut her tie with him. The writers can completely change the relationship with only a few words or events, but what has been presented for most of the series is enough for me to believe she loves both Neil and Simon. They are very different men. She loves Neil for his responsibility, stability, love of family, history with him, and his smarts. She loves Simon because the strong physical attraction has morphed into wanting an understanding man to talk to when things are bad and understand her bad girl side. The early fantasy scene with Simon walking into the pool causing Grace to walk to him and embrace him tenderly, not sexually, is an expression of her desire to be with him. She daydreams about him. Whenever she is caught up in a kiss, even when Simon forces it, she responds. She even agreed with Arianna that it was passionate when Adrianna saw her with Simon. When she daydreams at her opening about the previous day with Simon she remembers that she dressed in one of her new outfits to please Simon so their sex would be mutually pleasurable. Simon tried to get her to stay with the reminder that she is happy being with him. She WAS happy until her thought that "this is a mistake". She knows that she's crossed an emotional line, and isn't sure what she really wants for her life or what to do about it. There was an interesting movie from 2008 entitled "The Other Man" starring Antonio Banderas as Rafe, Liam Neeson as Peter, and Laura Linney as Lisa that the critics panned and I found fascinating. I almost think that Jablonski was aware of this movie when he created Satisfaction. I'll explain more later.
I was going to give you an argument up until this last episode. Grace always treated Simon with contempt and indifference so I was going to take the no love for Simon route. However, I think you have a point. She never tells him no I don't want to be with you. When asked by the therapist, she has to be reminded she came to save her marriage. At the time Grace said it Simon didn't profess his love for her. Now with that knowledge she tells the theripist I don't know. Plus she doesn't tell the theripist Simon told her he wants to give up his life style and be with her. I believe she loves Neil but is now being drawn into Simon.
I agree that there is no single definition of love that would apply in all cases, but I think we can narrow the possibilities down in specific cases. Love is multifaceted. It can take many forms. We probably all have differing definitions of love and those definitions vary with the situation. What I was trying to do was draw some boundaries around the word. Your post reminded me of another movie, “Indecent Proposal” were a billionaire offers a young married couple amillion dollars if he can have the wife for a night, sex in implied. When they were talking it over she says that It wouldn’t mean anything. It’s just my body. It’s not my mind. It’s not my heart. He agrees to let her do it and they agree never to talk about it, but of course, they did. Afterwards, she says it was just sex. Of course, she was lying, it is never just sex. Grace probably does loves both Neil and Simon and for different reasons. I think also in different ways. I said probably because we are watching a soap opera so anything can happen, and the characters are so ill defines and prone to change that it is hard to say anything with any amount of certainty.
Hello Winter, what is "love" but an emotional attachment between two people. I agree with you that Grace is in love with Simon as she has developed an emotional attachment to him. It's not a surprise that it would happen. She was physically intimate with him for an extended period (it wasn't only a one-night stand), she ate with him, they talked, and Simon's attention satisfied her need to be wanted. I think most of us have been in involved in relationships that fit that description. But the posters have used phrases such as "strongly attracted" and "emotionally involved" to differentiate the depth of the relationship that exists between Grace and Simon and the relationship that exist between Neil and Grace. I loved a number of women before I met and married my wife and I know the difference between what I felt in those relationships that most closely matched the Grace-Simon relationship and what I felt and still feel today for my wife. Comparing those two different relationships are like comparing apples and oranges. There's no comparison. The question that pops up is that at any given time in your life, what are you looking for. Are you looking for the Grace-Simon relationship or are you looking for the Neil-Grace relationship (at the time leading up to their marriage when they were in love and ready to commit for life). I also suspect that we are describing the Grace-Simon relationship short of being in love because that relationship frightens us (meaning the men who have been posting to this site). I think that we're concerned as to whether something like that could happen in our marriages. We look at the depth of the love that we believe exists between ourselves and our wives and we feel the need to downplay Grace's emotional connection to Simon as being less than that, and therefore not a threat to our marriages. What do you think? I wish the women posters would share their feelings and insights on the Grace-Simon relationship. As I've learn through my life, men and women do not perceive the world in the same way. That's what I find very insightful about Carissa's reviews and comments. I like to see how the other side perceives the world.
Hi, well you reinforced exactly what I described previously to Carissa. The swimming daydream and the office opening daydream are romantic and sensual. There is feeling and not just physical or sexual lust. Grace has been intimate with Simon for 6 months. From the brief segment which we have been privy to, they have been getting together at least weekly. That means at least 24 to 30 trysts. Not bad. Again, if she were paying, which Simon indicated is by her choice only, at Simon's previously stated cost $600/tryst, maybe more for an entire afternoon (Mannola shoes occasion), Grace spent between $14,400 to $18,000 for adultery. In addition, Grace bought all those new clothes for business (bull***t), they were bought to look sexier for her paramour. I mentioned in a previous posting, that when Neil went into Simon's apartment (the day of Simon's run) he imagined things that went on in each room. The writer's gave us a glimpse of what actually happened and what Grace was wearing. Neil could not imagine the outfits that Grace had worn to Simon's apartment, but we previously saw them on her visits, and here they were in full authentication of her rendezvouses. Grace went to the psychologist because she had become romantically entangled with Simon. Was it love, I don't know, but it was definitely more than just sex or someone to listen to her concerns. Simon has become an internal threat to Grace's marriage, and the "what if it is too late" statement in the psychologists office had dual meaning. It was meant to signify maybe she and Neil were beyond repair, or that her relationship with Simon had already crossed the line and become romantic and emotional love. I believe in the next season, Grace and Simon will resume their courtship. Simon, as we know, is now a man of a different cloth. He is substantial, in both breeding, and status. She will no longer dismiss him casually as a gigolo. Simon has captured her passion and romantic desires, it will be interesting if the final pieces, those being emotional and commitment are obtainable. If they are, Neil has a huge mountain to climb, in order to keep his wife. We know the principal writer, wants to keep the couple together, but he has openly stated, that tough times are ahead. Maybe a separation, how about a pregnancy. Some thing is going to bring Simon and Grace together for a good part of the second season. That you can probably place in the safe bet category. Neil is deeply in love with Grace, and she knows and understands its' depth. He mated for life, the question is, did she or at what level? Neil has had to forgive a great deal of trauma to this point, but I think much more is to follow. Neil has the unique capability to make these adjustments, which really under states his sense of loyalty and commitment to his spouse. Neil committed adultery also, but there was no attempt nor desire for an emotional or romantic connection. In fact, there was no actual desire for physical intimacy. This is so different from what Grace was pursuing with Simon. Grace allowed the Simon affair to potentially replace her marriage..
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Neeson is Neil, Linney is Grace, Banderas is Simon? I am anxious to here the rest of the story.
While I really like Debra Messing, this show was absolutely dreadful. The writers really need to decide if this is a comedy or a drama because trying to do both, as they clearly are, is not working. I don't mind a lighthearted script----CASTLE--- but this is show is just stupid. The cast is excellent and deserves better than this hot mess. i predict early termination.
I'm definitely liking the "new" Chad. Since he has returned prior to the departure of EJ - as supreme bad ass, AND looks good in just a towel, this points to the EJ character dying or going away rather than being recast.
I'm still waiting for the "all powerful" Doctor. He doesn't seem to be all knowing and almost always in control like the previous ones. David Tennant always had that "I know something you don't know" look. I would think what does he know and when is he going to tell us.Yes, Clara is getting alot more screen time and he actually listens to her now like he doesn't understand what's going on but she does. It was cute when Smith had a crush on her but with this elder it's kind of a yuck moment, he's alot too old for her this time around.
I quite enjoyed this episode. I thought it was quite entertaining and I enjoyed seeing some new faces. I had guessed that it was an inside job about half-way through though. I don't really think that the Doctor is jealous for any romantic reasons, I think that he just doesn't want to lose this particular companion quite yet.
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