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I don't know where to go with thus episode, I liked the Kono, Chin, Jerry crime but I thought the spring break thing was just stupid. The chemistry is gone, I tried to like Grover but every week it's getting harder to do. When Scott is there it's like he is totally disinterested, if he doesn't want to live up to his obligation he should just go away. He hurts the show if he is there and he hurts the show if he isn't there. It sounds like the show is going to be renewed but unless they improve on this season I don't see another one. It wouldn't surprise if they just get half a season to wrap things up. I love this show and I don't have the Will power to stop watching, so if it's cancelled they maybe doing me a favor.

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Are there too many team/cast members? The best parts are usually with the core 4 together and lately it seems like 2 different 1/2 hour procedurals with Steve, Grover & a maybe Danny as one show and Chin, Kono and Jerry as the other but thrown together in a one hour episode. Steve is the boss and should at least check in on the other ongoing investigation. I know that Chin and Kono aren't rookies and can handle a case but it seems so disjointed. It also seems as if Grover and Jerry are playing larger parts and the core 4 are not as prominent as they should be. Are we being setup for some of the core 4 leaving the show? I certainly hope not because the core 4 keys this show work. Having said that, I enjoyed both cases and would never miss an episode of H50. I had the same thought about flashing the dead girl's photo and the 2nd time they did that, I realized they had yet to identify her. I also wondered why they didn't read the half-brother his rights and it dawned on me right before Steve rolled up his sleeves that they knew there would be scratches on his arm, after all, it's Hawaii and who wears a long sleeve shirt there? I enjoyed the ending, especially since it ends on the feeling off Ohana, although Danny seemed to be missing again.

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You left out the best quote of the night: "As long as we're digging up the past, we may as well dig up your mother," by Renard. I'm still snickering over that snot-ass remark. Speaking of Renard, I want his plot to speed up a bit and take us somewhere. They keep dropping bread crumbs without the trail leading anywhere. He gets sidelined a lot and as a Renard fan, it's annoying. Roiz is pure gold -- as he proved with all his deadpan reactions tonight. Use him more often. The writers recycle plots a lot. Hello, Adaland being pregnant. She also has a very short memory. Not only her remark about this being all Nick's fault, but the fact that she was still sleeping with Renard right up to tricking Nick into bed. Yeah, so ... and you were sure the baby was Nick's... why? Do the writers forget their own plot points? If so, it's a shame we don't, because I've been making lists of plot holes from the start. Lots of them. Lots of dropped plots. Out of character reactions. Weird behavior that never goes explained. Poor writing, all around. Yet, entertaining, so I keep watching. Who did it was obvious. The minute I saw the girl left alone at the farm, I thought, "Oh, well, we know who did it then." But ... who cares. Grimm has never been about solving cases for me -- it's about the characters involved. And, we're finally going somewhere with all of it.

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@ Charity

Roiz is great. They under-use him. YES. The writers need to revisit the earlier seasons, not only to figure out what has already been done but to remember and pick up dangling plot threads (what about the keys? the Resistance? the Royals? Um, plot resolution ... maybe?). Though, a couple of weeks back, they used the same plot devise in TWO SIDE BY SIDE episodes -- cure the Wesen with a Rosalee mix. Repress one personality one week, cure a frog-girl the next. Redundant. Adalind pregnant twice. Redundant. Etc. I realize this makes it sound like I hate the show -- I don't. I really love it. But their inconsistencies and "forgotten" plot points annoy me, because I DO pay attention. I remember things. Things they wish I didn't. I agree, the cases are too obvious. And they do need to decide -- bigger arc or week by week? Personally, I prefer the bigger arc. I'm way more interested in the Royals, the Resistance, Kelly Burkhardt, etc., than in the freak of the week...

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@ Charity

That was a fantastic line, wasn't it? I wish I'd managed to fit in into my review somewhere. And Sasha Roiz's deadpan delivery just hit the mark, as you pointed out! I really think that the writers need to sit down and reread their series "bible" about what happened when and to whom, because they are really, really confusing things right now. Regarding the cases, I feel that the writers could put more effort into making the cases themselves more interesting and less blatantly obvious. Though, as you mentioned, sometimes it's more about the characters than the cases themselves. Unfortunately, they can't seem to decide if Grimm is a Monster of the Week show or a character-driven arc show.

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@ Charity

You are right. So many plotholes. This recent Juliette fiasco when she stayed with Renard and "maybe" slept with him made me revisit season 2 just to get further insight into their history and couldnt help but notice a little plothole that kind of got left hanging. Why did they need Nick's blood for the portion that was to rid Juliette and Renard of their obsessive attraction and how come Juliette immediately started having visions that led her to finding out about Nick being a grimm while Renard got no side effects from it? That storyline felt too hushed hushed and brushed under the carpet without any legit explanation for my liking and now what about Adalind and Nick's shared visions earlier in the season? Will we get an explanation for that other than Nick's medical color cones in his eyes? And how does Kenneth just keep on knowing the notknown or yet to be known? He seems so full of information, can't wait to find out who and what he actually is... This wesen of the week story felt like filler to me so i could be the least bothered about it.

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The Walking Dead Round Table: The Wolves Are Coming

yeah I was upset with season 5 of the walking dead first off they killed off gareth which I thought was a waste because he was a great character and villain there was so much more to his story that was not told then bo, beth, and tyreese all met grisly ends noah was a cool character also althought I would have like to see him evolved more as the show went on well the wolves are coming and hopefully 'villain 'negan' which is what the fans and I want also!

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Not my favorite as the whole hangover thing was just kind of meh. Something or a lot of things was just missing. Hopefully next week will bring them all together with the Kono lost at sea eppy. The magic was there somewhere it just never surfaced for me. I know many like/love him but just cannot warm up to Jerry. Wish I could but not happening.

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Hopefully Danny will be killed soon. Why is he not in prision. Thought out the several years he has committed numerous felonies. I got the first two seasons on DVD for a gift and lost count at 32 before giving up

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@ retiredgolfer

So now your an expert in police procedures? You must live in a perfect society, where criminals follow the same code as law enforcement. Hopefully you'll be dead soon... :)

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I find that I fast-forward Lenny & Penny....
It was HYSTERICAL when Howard dialed tech support & Raj phone rang!!!!

Yama1291

I guees a show that takes the existence of god as its central premise had to have a "skeptic" or else it would not have felt authentic. But they went a step further and had character identify as "atheist" and "voice of reason" and then procceded to constantly proving her wrong with *plot happens* and not so suttle slaps like "You may not like it but it has all been foretold" or "I only bellive what I see" <> "Look harder". This hits a little close to home with me. Look at supernatural. That show is running 10 seasons strong now and they never resorted to cheap shots like that even though they shows have the same premise. As for what happened: I'm happy the show got on the road so to speak. This desperatly needed to pick up pace. I'm still not convinced by Erin or our Devil but hey. I'll give them some slack.

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@ Yama1291

Supernatural really played the foretold crap for all it's worth in seasons 4 and 5 when dealing with the Apocalypse.

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@ Graydon

True, but waht they didn't do is place an atheist character front and center an constantly *prove* her wrong. That's a big difference.

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@ Yama1291

True. The arbitrary skeptic whose almost in denial was not used.

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was an amusing episode. but where is this season going? kono got engaged, never to be mentioned again. no romance for steve (which is just not possible--looking like that). and just no moving forward. and the season ends soon. don't know. was it renewed?

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@ eileen

I think Kono's engagement will come up in the next episode. If it doesn't I would be extremely surprised since it seems like Kono is going to be lost at sea...

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11 Shows That Should Be Canceled Immediately

I didnt see the kardashian s there so I'm gonna assume this world is doomed there's a lot worse show then the shit u decide to whine about get rid of that shit who the fuck needs reality tv we love in fucking reality everyday and those shows arnt it